Texas group creates white men only scholarship
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Soooo...its obvious you are stupider that TC....I've explained it twice and you still don't get it....
I'm not asking WHY there are these black organizations, I'm asking if they are racist.......you're MORE ignorant as TCPinhead...
why is it not racist to have scholarships, beauty pageants, and numerous other for "blacks only" organizations .... but it is racist to have scholarships (and equivalent organizations) for "whites only"...
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Topspin
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Soooo...its obvious you are stupider that TC....I've explained it twice and you still don't get it....
I'm not asking WHY there are these black organizations, I'm asking if they are racist.......you're MORE ignorant as TCPinhead...
why is it not racist to have scholarships, beauty pageants, and numerous other for "blacks only" organizations .... but it is racist to have scholarships (and equivalent organizations) for "whites only"...
Asked 3+ times and as yet...0 answers..so
it's obvious why a dumbass like you would skip college and go into the navy, besides your obvious love of the village people.
zappasguitar
Well-known member
Soooo...its obvious you are stupider that TC....I've explained it twice and you still don't get it....
I'm not asking WHY there are these black organizations, I'm asking if they are racist.......you're MORE ignorant as TCPinhead...
why is it not racist to have scholarships, beauty pageants, and numerous other for "blacks only" organizations .... but it is racist to have scholarships (and equivalent organizations) for "whites only"...
Asked 3+ times and as yet...0 answers..so
So then YOU obviously believe that this new "whites only" scholarship is racist, correct?
If 'whites only' organizations are racist then "black only" is also racist...right? Pinheads seem a tiny bit confused on the matter and reluctant to answer the question.
all I get is a song and dance about why we have organizations that discriminate by race....
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zappasguitar
Well-known member
Song and dance...yeah, I know what you mean.
That's the "answer" I expected I'd see when I asked the question.
its funny to read people pretend they don't know why "whites-only" groups, policies, etc. aren't PC, while other (minority) races can get away with it..... they know better but still wanna go to that well over and over.....
any of u willing to give up being white so u could get a scholarship which exclude race as a criteria....
I dont think so.
any of u willing to give up being white so u could get a scholarship which exclude race as a criteria....
I dont think so.
Second grade English lesson, proper nouns, etc...simple punctuation is lacking too....
Was Jarod in your class ?
By the way, great program...learn something...http://gibill.va.gov/
Still no intelligent answer, huh...just the song and dance.
Well, I'll repeat it for the new pinhead....the question is NOT about being pc or WHY the organizations exist......the question is why the double standard is tolerated...
Do you want "separate but equal" to be the law of the land?...because thats what you're promoting, though one-sided....
which exclude other races as criteria ?......wtf?
Obviously you're a classmate of Topspin and Jarod.
Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
Nice rant Libby...mostly irrelevant...
I'm not asking WHY there are these black organizations, I'm asking if they are racist.......you're almost as ignorant as topspin...
And whenever Bravo has no logical or rational response to a post that disproves his assertions, he usually begins with these declarations and insults. Let's see if he's good for anything else here:
why is it not racist to have scholarships, beauty pageants, and numerous other for "blacks only" organizations .... but it is racist to have scholarships (and equivalent organizations) for "whites only"...
Your answer...
"Because at the time they were created, there was NO participation of black folk in the "main stream" in those mentioned areas.
IRRELEVANT
If you're white, it's "irrelevent" because YOU were not the one targeted for historical discrimination. One has to know history least one repeats it. I mentioned this to bring willfully ignorant bigots like Bravo up to speed. And since to date you have "legacy" admissions into universities,
IRRELEVANT/OFF TOPIC
and various "ethnic" and beauty pageants organizations of European descent,
Am I to take it that you're agreeing and condoning "ethnic" organizations?
e.i., "blacks only", "whites only", "Irish only", "Zulu only", "english only", "Mexican only","Muslims only", "Men only",...etc....
Justice for all....consistency....equality....fairness....
So the German American members of FOGAS, the Irish American members of the Emerald Society, the Italian American members of the Sons of Italy, are not "white" by Bravo's standards until they join an organization that declares such!
Obviously, Bravo is ignorant that you have Black Americans who are members of Caribbean organizations, Liberian, Haitian, etc. The organizations that have "black" in front of them were born of the American decendents of African American slaves.
I have NO problem with any of these groups, which have existed for a LONG time....since America is an amalgamation of racial and ethnic groups from around the world. We are all Americans in the end. And as long as that is recognized and respected, the forementioned groups can exist.
Or do you pick and choose only certain ethnic groups can discriminate?
you're angst about "black" versions of these is just typical Bravo blowhard bigotry.
Do you seriously think I give a shit about any black only group?
Asking a simple question is not bigotry or display angst
Try to stay on topic
So in one breath Bravo spews disdain for "any black only group", then says his question has nothing to do with bigotry.
Just read my responses above folks....Once again, another bigot done in by his own ignorance and irrational hatred. "Bravo", indeed.[/I]
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And whenever Bravo has no logical or rational response to a post that disproves his assertions, he usually begins with these declarations and insults. Let's see if he's good for anything else here:
Bluster by the bullshit artist?...requires no comment from adults...If you're white, it's "irrelevent" because YOU were not the one targeted for historical discrimination. One has to know history least one repeats it. I mentioned this to bring willfully ignorant bigots like Bravo up to speed.
Again, this rant has nothing to do with the topic of the thread...its just more superfluous crap from the bullshit artist...
Once again, Bravo tries to bluff his way past the FACT that he was proven WRONG. Bravo's opening salvo was that any scholarship, beauty pageant or organization that specifiy's black membership is "racist", yet the construction of a similar "white" group is not.
Close, but exactly backwards...society accepts "black only" as not racist....its only "white only" anything that is condemned as racist...
Now to understand Bravo's bigotry, you have to understand his schizoid approach to the subject. In Bravo's mind, separate ethnic organizations that are specifically set up for caucasians of various European descent is not the same as setting up a generic "white" organization. So the German American members of FOGAS, the Irish American members of the Emerald Society, the Italian American members of the Sons of Italy, are not "white" by Bravo's standards until they join an organization that declares such!
Ethnic requirements are the same for any organization...white, black, Irish, Polish, African...whatever...thanks for admitting that pinhead.
Obviously, Bravo is ignorant that you have Black Americans who are members of Caribbean organizations, Liberian, Haitian, etc. The organizations that have "black" in front of them were born of the American decendents of African American slaves.
Interesting, but totally irrelevant
I have NO problem with any of these groups, which have existed for a LONG time....since America is an amalgamation of racial and ethnic groups from around the world. We are all Americans in the end. And as long as that is recognized and respected, the forementioned groups
and now we finally get a definitive answer to a simple question...
"I have NO problem with any of these groups,"----TCPINHEAD
So, if he has no problem with any of these groups, "since America is an amalgamation of racial and ethnic groups from around the world."
thus, we finally get an answer...just as black only, Liberian, Haitian groups don't present a problem, then the equivalent white, Irish, Polish, Islamic, Hebrew, etc. groups don't present a problem.
They've all been around for a long time(if that is relevant for some reason)
Why should Hebrews not have the same right as Haitians, or the Irish not have the same rights as Liberians
Discrimination for one and all according to TCPinhead....
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Your distortion and mis-characterizations of what I post doesn't pass the smell test...you're so obviously mis-stating everything I say, its laughable...you're not fooling anyone. You're just proving yourself to be the lying, ignorant asshole...we know you are.
But I appreciate it nevertheless....
Bluster by the bullshit artist?...requires no comment from adults...If you're white, it's "irrelevent" because YOU were not the one targeted for historical discrimination. One has to know history least one repeats it. I mentioned this to bring willfully ignorant bigots like Bravo up to speed.
Again, this rant has nothing to do with the topic of the thread...its just more superfluous crap from the bullshit artist...
Once again, Bravo tries to bluff his way past the FACT that he was proven WRONG. Bravo's opening salvo was that any scholarship, beauty pageant or organization that specifiy's black membership is "racist", yet the construction of a similar "white" group is not.Close, but exactly backwards...society accepts "black only" as not racist....its only "white only" anything that is condemned as racist...
Now to understand Bravo's bigotry, you have to understand his schizoid approach to the subject. In Bravo's mind, separate ethnic organizations that are specifically set up for caucasians of various European descent is not the same as setting up a generic "white" organization.
So the German American members of FOGAS, the Irish American members of the Emerald Society, the Italian American members of the Sons of Italy, are not "white" by Bravo's standards until they join an organization that declares such!Ethnic requirements are the same for any organization...white, black, Irish, Polish, African...whatever...thanks for admitting that pinhead.
Obviously, Bravo is ignorant that you have Black Americans who are members of Caribbean organizations, Liberian, Haitian, etc. The organizations that have "black" in front of them were born of the American decendents of African American slaves.
Interesting, but totally irrelevant
I have NO problem with any of these groups, which have existed for a LONG time....since America is an amalgamation of racial and ethnic groups from around the world. We are all Americans in the end. And as long as that is recognized and respected, the forementioned groups
and now we finally get a definitive answer to a simple question...
"I have NO problem with any of these groups,"----TCPINHEAD
So, if he has no problem with any of these groups, "since America is an amalgamation of racial and ethnic groups from around the world."
thus, we finally get an answer...just as black only, Liberian, Haitian groups don't present a problem, then the equivalent white, Irish, Polish, Islamic, Hebrew, etc. groups don't present a problem.
They've all been around for a long time(if that is relevant for some reason)
Why should Hebrews not have the same right as Haitians, or the Irish not have the same rights as Liberians
Discrimination for one and all according to TCPinhead....
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Your distortion and mis-characterizations of what I post doesn't pass the smell test...you're so obviously mis-stating everything I say, its laughable...you're not fooling anyone. You're just proving yourself to be the lying, ignorant asshole...we know you are.
But I appreciate it nevertheless....
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Taichiliberal
Shaken, not stirred!
And whenever Bravo has no logical or rational response to a post that disproves his assertions, he usually begins with these declarations and insults. Let's see if he's good for anything else here:
Bluster by the bullshit artist?...requires no comment from adults...
So by his own actions (posting a comment in response), Bravo is NOT an adult.
If you're white, it's "irrelevent" because YOU were not the one targeted for historical discrimination. One has to know history least one repeats it. I mentioned this to bring willfully ignorant bigots like Bravo up to speed.
Again, this rant has nothing to do with the topic of the thread...its just more superfluous crap from the bullshit artist...
Bravo stated: why is it not racist to have scholarships, beauty pageants, and numerous other for "blacks only" organizations .... but it is racist to have scholarships (and equivalent organizations) for "whites only"...
I replied: "Because at the time they were created, there was NO participation of black folk in the "main stream" in those mentioned areas.
Bravo stated: IRRELEVANT
I replied: If you're white, it's "irrelevent" because YOU were not the one targeted for historical discrimination. One has to know history least one repeats it. I mentioned this to bring willfully ignorant bigots like Bravo up to speed.
See folks, Bravo tries to edit things so that they fit his cognitive myopia regarding history and the real world. Unfortunately for Bravo, the printed record of these posts will always be his undoing.[/I]
Close, but exactly backwards...society accepts "black only" as not racist....its only "white only" anything that is condemned as racist...
Excuse me while I spoon feed Bravo on this, folks.......the vast majority of Americans are caucasians of European decent...have been for a long time. They have for centuries identified themselves as either Americans or prefaced that identity with the name of the country that their family line originated from (Italian, Polish, German, Irish, etc.). The ONLY time the foremention refer to themselves as "white" is when they are separating themselves from the minority of Americans of African decent (aka black Americans). History has shown that this identity separation corresponds with detrimental actions against the black American minority (slavery, segregation, job & housing discrimination). Now since American language, customs, religions, etc. are predominately of European decent, no "white" person should feel the need to racially identify themselves. Black folk, however, have ALWAYS been defined in America by their race....hence the names of organizations as the NAACP or UNCF. Now as I've gone point for point in the previous post to demonstrate how Bravo's leading question and assertions do not logically make sense, we have seen him just ignore a logical and rational response in favor of repeating his original premise...not surprising, as closed minded bigots fear a rational, logical examination of their hatreds.
Now to understand Bravo's bigotry, you have to understand his schizoid approach to the subject. In Bravo's mind, separate ethnic organizations that are specifically set up for caucasians of various European descent is not the same as setting up a generic "white" organization.
Ethnic requirements are the same for any organization...white, black, Irish, Polish, African...whatever...thanks for admitting that pinhead.
And once again we see the level of Bravos willful (or congenital) ignorance. In his response, Bravo confuses racial identification with ethnic identification. Here's what Merriam-Webster has to say:
Ethnic
..... of or relating to large groups of people classed according to common racial, national, tribal, religious, linguistic, or cultural origin or background <ethnic minorities> <ethnic enclaves>
b : being a member of a specified ethnic group
Race
.... a : a family, tribe, people, or nation belonging to the same stock
b : a class or kind of people unified by shared interests, habits, or characteristics
So again the point is made that while there are white people and black people, there are also groups within those two categories. Now history shows that ethnics in the "white" category have always identified each other by their ethnic groupings, while people in the "black" category HAVE FOR THE MOST PART BEEN IDENTIFIED BY THEIR RACE BY PEOPLE IN THE FIRST CATEGORY. Only in recent years with growing populations do we see Haitian, Dominican, Trinidadian, etc., groups of "ethnicity" within the black American community. What it boils down to is that those who feel the need to identify themselves as "white" in a country were nearly 80% of the population is "white" do so as some sort of challenge or affront to the black American minority. Why they do this can be based upon resentment, fear, or learned bigotry throughout generations.
[COLOR=SeaGreen] Obviously, Bravo is ignorant that you have Black Americans who are members of Caribbean organizations, Liberian, Haitian, etc. The organizations that have "black" in front of them were born of the American decendents of African American slaves.
Interesting, but totally irrelevant
Note how Bravo takes things out of context to declare them "irrelevent"...Bravo's intellectual dishonesty is deplorable.
I have NO problem with any of these groups, which have existed for a LONG time....since America is an amalgamation of racial and ethnic groups from around the world. We are all Americans in the end. And as long as that is recognized and respected, the forementioned groups [/COLOR]
and now we finally get a definitive answer to a simple question...
"I have NO problem with any of these groups,"----TCPINHEAD
So, if he has no problem with any of these groups, "since America is an amalgamation of racial and ethnic groups from around the world."
thus, we finally get an answer...just as black only, Liberian, Haitian groups don't present a problem, then the equivalent white, Irish, Polish, Islamic, Hebrew, etc. groups don't present a problem.
They've all been around for a long time(if that is relevant for some reason)
Why should Hebrews not have the same right as Haitians, or the Irish not have the same rights as Liberians
Discrimination for one and all according to TCPinhead....
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Your distortion and mis-characterizations of what I post doesn't pass the smell test...you're so obviously mis-stating everything I say, its laughable...you're not fooling anyone. You're just proving yourself to be the lying, ignorant asshole...we know you are.
But I appreciate it nevertheless....
A fascinating bit of distortion, lies and convoluted logic from Bravo. The chronology of the post clearly shows Bravo just denying everything I posted in favor of his own convoluted logic. Remember, Bravo's original "question" was that why aren't black only groups considered racist when "white" only groups are. As I've demonstrated "white only" groups have existed in their ethnic form for generations...it's when people forgo their ethnic identity to front their "whiteness" is when we see their bigotry...because one has to ask "WHY WOULD A MEMBER OF A RACIAL MAJORITY NEED TO START AN ORGANIZATION FOR THAT RACIAL MAJORITY?" What is it about 13% of the population that disturbs these member of the 80% majority that they feel the need to form groups to support their "whiteness". Does this include Jews? Sicilians? Slavics? Will the Sons of Italy need a dual membership for the "white club"?Discrimmination only happens when one group seeks to deprive another of community property or social/economic services. ALL the groups I previously mentioned have not done this.
Clearly, all the ethnic and minority group organizations I mentioned in the previous group started because they are minorities in the larger population to one degree or another. That cannot be said for the frustrated, axe grinding folk who feel the need for a "white club"...or a "white men scholarship".
Topspin
Verified User
Second grade English lesson, proper nouns, etc...simple punctuation is lacking too....
Was Jarod in your class ?
By the way, great program...learn something...http://gibill.va.gov/
I might have been, ass clowns like you resort to your last level of schooling when stumped. I see high school grammar is what you have to fall down on mr village people. You should of at least went to community college after your gay love fest aboard your navy ship of all men.
Second grade English lesson, proper nouns, etc...simple punctuation is lacking too....
Was Jarod in your class ?
By the way, great program...learn something...http://gibill.va.gov/
Topspin is proof that there really are colleges that will enroll all kinds of uneducated idiots~
TC..you're good for a laugh all the time....a whole fuckin' essay that continues to tapdance around a simple question.
lets try it again ..
I don't care WHY an organization was founded, formed, or started....it ain't 1960, or 1970 or 1980 or 1990 AND ITS IRRELEVANT
...it is 2011....
Why today, is a black only organization not racist but a white only one is....
Lets not have anymore bullshit about 40 or 50 years ago .... lets talk about TODAY....as I've been trying to do since the beginning, and only getting bluster and bullshit in return...
if all you got is excuses about the past, crap about the Polish and Liberians or nonsense about legacy college entry (that isn't even race based) save us both some time and just STFU....
lets try it again ..
I don't care WHY an organization was founded, formed, or started....it ain't 1960, or 1970 or 1980 or 1990 AND ITS IRRELEVANT
...it is 2011....
Why today, is a black only organization not racist but a white only one is....
Lets not have anymore bullshit about 40 or 50 years ago .... lets talk about TODAY....as I've been trying to do since the beginning, and only getting bluster and bullshit in return...
if all you got is excuses about the past, crap about the Polish and Liberians or nonsense about legacy college entry (that isn't even race based) save us both some time and just STFU....
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Whats even funnier, he don't even get it right the second time....
When I interviewed assholes like him, with their meaningless degrees, I politely told them to take a hike....It was amazing to see so many that were too stupid to know what they didn't know....no work ethic and just too immature for serious work. I'd take a GED with integrity and character first...
