Dealing with Bush apologism can be challenging at times, but it hasn't even occurred to me to get a therapist to help me w/ those challenges. I can handle it...
Colin Powell demands answers over Curveball's WMD lies
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Dealing with Bush apologism can be challenging at times, but it hasn't even occurred to me to get a therapist to help me w/ those challenges. I can handle it...
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The classic answer to all problems, even if you didn't know that Yurt lives in California that would tell all you need to know.
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Colin Powell 'was lied to and used by George Bush to add credibility to invasion of Iraq'
By Daniel Bates
Last updated at 11:02 AM on 19th February 2011 (Source)
'Lied to': A former colleague claims Colin Powell was used to add credibility to invasion of Iraq
Colin Powell was lied to and ‘manipulated’ into supporting the invasion of Iraq, it was claimed last night. The former Secretary of State was deliberately not told that information he used to make his famous speech justifying the war was bogus, a former colleague claimed. Instead the George W Bush White House abused his good reputation to give the push for war much-needed credibility. The claims were made by Lawrence Wilkerson, Powell’s former chief of staff, in an angry and revealing interview. He spoke out after the main source for Powell’s report justifying the Iraq invasion which he presented to the UN Security Council in February 2003 admitted he made the whole thing up.
Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, or ‘Curveball’ as he was known by the CIA, said he let his imagination run wild with claims about Saddam Hussein and that he was doing it just to overthrow the regime. When he saw Powell relaying the fabricated information to the UN he was stunned.
Speaking to America’s NBC, Wilkerson said he did not believe that when Powell gave his speech - which came just a month before the invasion - he knew the truth.‘I never heard a single word of doubt expressed about what we were told were four separate sources which proved the existence of mobile biological labs,’ he said. ‘What I’ve found out since makes me very angry.
An Iraqi defector, codenamed Curveball, says he lied about Saddam Hussein's bio-weapons programme in order to encourage the United States to declare war and topple the dictator.
I cannot come to any other conclusion that we were flat out lied to, especially when I have discovered that no U.S. people were present when Curveball was interrogated. ‘I have some serious doubts, I think there was some manipulation of this material and some outright lying.’ Asked if the office of former Vice President Dick Cheney manipulated Powell into giving a speech, he replied: ‘Absolutely. Absolutely.’ He added that Colin Powell had the credibility that none of the others had because he was a war sceptic surrounded by hawks.
‘The were using him,’ Wilkerson said. Powell has said that he wants to know why the doubts about Curveball were not raised before he gave his speech, which was seen as a crucial factor in persuading other countries to support the invasion. But Wilkerson said that in the end even if Powell did know it would have made little difference. ‘Had Curveball not even existed we still would have gone to war because George W Bush and Dick Cheney were determined to do so,’ he said.
By Daniel Bates
Last updated at 11:02 AM on 19th February 2011 (Source)
'Lied to': A former colleague claims Colin Powell was used to add credibility to invasion of Iraq
Colin Powell was lied to and ‘manipulated’ into supporting the invasion of Iraq, it was claimed last night. The former Secretary of State was deliberately not told that information he used to make his famous speech justifying the war was bogus, a former colleague claimed. Instead the George W Bush White House abused his good reputation to give the push for war much-needed credibility. The claims were made by Lawrence Wilkerson, Powell’s former chief of staff, in an angry and revealing interview. He spoke out after the main source for Powell’s report justifying the Iraq invasion which he presented to the UN Security Council in February 2003 admitted he made the whole thing up.
Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, or ‘Curveball’ as he was known by the CIA, said he let his imagination run wild with claims about Saddam Hussein and that he was doing it just to overthrow the regime. When he saw Powell relaying the fabricated information to the UN he was stunned.
Speaking to America’s NBC, Wilkerson said he did not believe that when Powell gave his speech - which came just a month before the invasion - he knew the truth.‘I never heard a single word of doubt expressed about what we were told were four separate sources which proved the existence of mobile biological labs,’ he said. ‘What I’ve found out since makes me very angry.
An Iraqi defector, codenamed Curveball, says he lied about Saddam Hussein's bio-weapons programme in order to encourage the United States to declare war and topple the dictator.
I cannot come to any other conclusion that we were flat out lied to, especially when I have discovered that no U.S. people were present when Curveball was interrogated. ‘I have some serious doubts, I think there was some manipulation of this material and some outright lying.’ Asked if the office of former Vice President Dick Cheney manipulated Powell into giving a speech, he replied: ‘Absolutely. Absolutely.’ He added that Colin Powell had the credibility that none of the others had because he was a war sceptic surrounded by hawks.
‘The were using him,’ Wilkerson said. Powell has said that he wants to know why the doubts about Curveball were not raised before he gave his speech, which was seen as a crucial factor in persuading other countries to support the invasion. But Wilkerson said that in the end even if Powell did know it would have made little difference. ‘Had Curveball not even existed we still would have gone to war because George W Bush and Dick Cheney were determined to do so,’ he said.
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Lawrence Wilkerson was one of the contributors to the 2007 film No End in Sight. Rumsfeld and Cheney should indicted for war crimes.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3165309591520786688#docid=-5309296823789904213
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President Eisenhower knew what he was talking about when he delivered his farewell address. It's just a shame that very few listened to his warnings.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3165309591520786688#docid=9219858826421983682
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3165309591520786688#docid=9219858826421983682
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It's temporary. He's getting a separation.
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Colin Powell 'was lied to and used by George Bush to add credibility to invasion of Iraq'
By Daniel Bates
Last updated at 11:02 AM on 19th February 2011 (Source)
'Lied to': A former colleague claims Colin Powell was used to add credibility to invasion of Iraq
Colin Powell was lied to and ‘manipulated’ into supporting the invasion of Iraq, it was claimed last night. The former Secretary of State was deliberately not told that information he used to make his famous speech justifying the war was bogus, a former colleague claimed. Instead the George W Bush White House abused his good reputation to give the push for war much-needed credibility. The claims were made by Lawrence Wilkerson, Powell’s former chief of staff, in an angry and revealing interview. He spoke out after the main source for Powell’s report justifying the Iraq invasion which he presented to the UN Security Council in February 2003 admitted he made the whole thing up.
Rafid Ahmed Alwan al-Janabi, or ‘Curveball’ as he was known by the CIA, said he let his imagination run wild with claims about Saddam Hussein and that he was doing it just to overthrow the regime. When he saw Powell relaying the fabricated information to the UN he was stunned.
Speaking to America’s NBC, Wilkerson said he did not believe that when Powell gave his speech - which came just a month before the invasion - he knew the truth.‘I never heard a single word of doubt expressed about what we were told were four separate sources which proved the existence of mobile biological labs,’ he said. ‘What I’ve found out since makes me very angry.
An Iraqi defector, codenamed Curveball, says he lied about Saddam Hussein's bio-weapons programme in order to encourage the United States to declare war and topple the dictator.
I cannot come to any other conclusion that we were flat out lied to, especially when I have discovered that no U.S. people were present when Curveball was interrogated. ‘I have some serious doubts, I think there was some manipulation of this material and some outright lying.’ Asked if the office of former Vice President Dick Cheney manipulated Powell into giving a speech, he replied: ‘Absolutely. Absolutely.’ He added that Colin Powell had the credibility that none of the others had because he was a war sceptic surrounded by hawks.
‘The were using him,’ Wilkerson said. Powell has said that he wants to know why the doubts about Curveball were not raised before he gave his speech, which was seen as a crucial factor in persuading other countries to support the invasion. But Wilkerson said that in the end even if Powell did know it would have made little difference. ‘Had Curveball not even existed we still would have gone to war because George W Bush and Dick Cheney were determined to do so,’ he said.
I remember discussions on the AOL forum in which these very points were discussed on the day after we had watched the poor man struggling with his masters lies.
We were, of course, shot down in flames. Do you remember that?
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I remember it very well, it seems that many in the US suffered from mass amnesia. Even now they will still try to dispute the facts despite the testimony from Bush admin insiders.
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you need therapy to deal with your delusions onceler. your mind has fled reality and escaped into a dark place where only lies seem like truth. in your twisted world, if anyone corrects a fact about bush or obama's b/c, they are bush lover or a birther.
i hope you find a good therapist to deal with your unfortunate demise.
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many people have california envy, especially envy of those who live on the coast as i do. i understand you don't live in paradise as i do, but its ok, i can send you pictures....
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Interesting stuff.....
Powell was lied to but Bush wasn't lied to....
The CIA and Tenet knew everything
and I guess Rumsfeld and Cheney, and Coney Rice, so it was just Powell that was in the dark.....is that about it...?
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German Intell. knew the truth and told the CIA ....
so the Guardian lies when it says the BND didn't tell the CIA....
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George Tenet failed to pass on warnings from German intelligence about Curveball's reliability even though the Guardian says the BND didn't tell the Tenet
Tenet insists that the first he heard about Curveball's unreliability was two years after the invasion, so I guess thats a lie...
The Oct. 2002 NIE CIA report presented to Bush and Congress was all lies, but Bush and the CIA knew it was lies,
16 February 2011, Curveball just confessed last week to his lies....8 years after the start of the war....
Wilkerson accuses just about everyone in the Bush administration of wrongdoing...except Powell...Powell was lied to....
Does that about cover the high points...?
And Wilkerson says...
Condoleezza Rice as national security advisor was 'extremely weak' and more interested in 'her intimacy with the president'
Is Wilkerson trying to imply something here....? haha! Cool.
Powell was lied to but Bush wasn't lied to....
The CIA and Tenet knew everything
and I guess Rumsfeld and Cheney, and Coney Rice, so it was just Powell that was in the dark.....is that about it...?
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German Intell. knew the truth and told the CIA ....
so the Guardian lies when it says the BND didn't tell the CIA....
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George Tenet failed to pass on warnings from German intelligence about Curveball's reliability even though the Guardian says the BND didn't tell the Tenet
Tenet insists that the first he heard about Curveball's unreliability was two years after the invasion, so I guess thats a lie...
The Oct. 2002 NIE CIA report presented to Bush and Congress was all lies, but Bush and the CIA knew it was lies,
16 February 2011, Curveball just confessed last week to his lies....8 years after the start of the war....
Wilkerson accuses just about everyone in the Bush administration of wrongdoing...except Powell...Powell was lied to....
Does that about cover the high points...?
And Wilkerson says...
Condoleezza Rice as national security advisor was 'extremely weak' and more interested in 'her intimacy with the president'
Is Wilkerson trying to imply something here....? haha! Cool.
I'd sure LOVE to see where you "corrected a fact" about Bush on this thread.
Talk about delusion...
Bush got a PDB saying that Curveball had been deemed an "unreliable" source. Just days before his SOU before the war. And he still cited him in the speech. Not only that, he said "multiple sources," when he was actually only talking about Curveball.
Bush lied.
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I'd sure LOVE to see where you "corrected a fact" about Bush on this thread.
Talk about delusion...
yes, yes you are delusional, because i never said i corrected a fact about bush in this thread. i'm surprised you didn't ask about me correcting a fact about obama's b/c in this thread.....
lol
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not true. per your usual
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many people have california envy, especially envy of those who live on the coast as i do. i understand you don't live in paradise as i do, but its ok, i can send you pictures....
morro bay rock:
pacific grove:
yes, central coast california is indeed beautiful....you're welcome
It looks very nice, it's a shame that arrogant tossers like you live there. I have this on my doorstep.
Actually, it is true. It's historical fact.
It's Bush, though; you'll get past your adoration eventually, and be open to at least some of the truth.
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link up onceler...i doubt you will though, its not your style....if you can give me a link to each of your claims, i will admit i was wrong.
here is your chance little buddy, get busy!
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You're asking for a link?
You don't even know that well-known piece of history...but call it a lie, and then ask for a link?
What a fool....
