Rand Paul: Cut U.S. Aid to Israel

tom prendergast said:
So according to you, the British allowed the King David hotel to be blown up because the Rothschilds said so. I think that you need to meet up with Ass Hat you would get on like a house on fire!
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No. They didn't retaliate because the Jews run Britain. Why Didn't the Americans punish Israel when they attacked the USS Liberty?

Simply because they own America also. Via the Federal Reserve.

What did Rothschild say?

Baron Nathan Mayer Rothschild

"I care not what puppet is placed on
the throne of England to rule the Empire, ...
The man that controls Britain's money
supply controls the British Empire.
And I control the money supply."
 
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wiseones2cents said:
No. They didn't retaliate because they Jews run Britain. Why Didn't the Americans attack Israel when they attacked the USS Liberty?

Simply because they own America also. Via the Federal Reserve.

What did Rothschild say?

Baron Nathan Mayer Rothschild

"I care not what puppet is placed on
the throne of England to rule the Empire, ...
The man that controls Britain's money
supply controls the British Empire.
And I control the money supply."
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Rothschild is obviously a crazy conspiracy theorist. <-- here we see the label and dismiss strategy oft employed by brainwash victims to maintain their cognitive harmony taken to an absurd level, for comedic and truth pounding effect.
 
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AssHatZombie said:
Rothschild is obviously a crazy conspiracy theorist. <-- here we see the label and dismiss strategy oft employed by brainwash victims to maintain their cognitive harmony taken to an absurd level, for comedic and truth pounding effect.
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These guys actually believe that Britain couldn't have stopped the Jews from building shop in Palestine if they wanted to? The British Army would have turned the stern gang, into the strung up to dry gang.

Britain was just giving lip service as to not piss off their allies in the region. Its called double speak. You see it today all the time on the global stage.
 
wiseones2cents said:
These guys actually believe that Britain couldn't have stopped the Jews from building shop in Palestine if they wanted to? The British Army would have turned the stern gang, into the strung up to dry gang.

Britain was just giving lip service as to not piss off their allies in the region. Its called double speak. You see it today all the time on the global stage.
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My favorite argument from the Noahide brainwash gang is that jews can't possibly have power in a democracy because they're such a small percentage of the population.
 
AssHatZombie said:
My favorite argument from the Noahide brainwash gang is that jews can't possibly have power in a democracy because they're such a small percentage of the population.
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Well when you understand that they have been practicing fractional banking for centuries?(Lending out more money then they actually had/have?) You will see how it was/is easy for them to multiply their money.

Now they have the best racket. The are buying all the world's wealth using IOU's that are left to the tax payer to pay.

Not to mention when the Christians banned charging interest(around 11th century)? The jews prospered lending money to people at crazy interest rates and if you didn't pay, you would surely have someone knocking at your door......
 
wiseones2cents said:
Well when you understand that they have been practicing fractional banking for centuries?(Lending out more money then they actually had/have?) You will see how it was/is easy for them to multiply their money.

Now they have the best racket. The are buying all the world's wealth using IOU's that are left to the tax payer to pay.

Not to mention when the Christians banned charging interest(around 11th century)? The jews prospered lending money to people at crazy interest rates and if you didn't pay, you would surely have someone knocking at your door......
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I knew you two would get on well, it's very touching really.
 
cawacko said:
Definitely not the normal G.O.P. line (or Democratic either for the most part).


GOP senator favors cutting US aid to Israel

Tea party-backed Republican Sen. Rand Paul favors cutting U.S. aid to Israel as part of a deficit-driven effort to slash government spending by $500 billion this year, drawing criticism from Democrats and Republicans who argue the U.S. must be unwavering in its support for the longtime Mideast ally.

The freshman Kentucky lawmaker unveiled his budget proposal this week that would make significant cuts in education, housing and energy while reducing money for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq by $16 billion. Paul's plan also would cut some $20 billion in overseas aid, and he said he wants to eliminate the $3 billion the United States provides to Israel annually in foreign military assistance.

"The overwhelming majority of Americans agree with Senator Paul — our current fiscal crisis makes it impossible to continue the spending policies of the past," Paul spokesman Gary Howard said in a statement responding to the criticism. "We simply cannot afford to give money away, even to our allies, with so much debt mounting on a daily basis."

The latest economic forecast puts the deficit at a record $1.5 trillion.

Paul explained his position in an interview with CNN on Wednesday, saying he respects Israel as a Democratic nation but feared funding an arms race in the Mideast. His proposal drew a swift response from Republicans and Democrats.

"We share Senator Paul's commitment to restraining the growth of federal spending, but we reject his misguided proposal to end U.S. assistance to our ally Israel," said Matthew Brooks, executive director for the Republican Jewish Coalition, in a statement Thursday. The organization counts several former senior Bush administration officials on its board of directors.

Rep. Nita Lowey of the New York, the top Democrat on the House Appropriations subcommittee that oversees foreign aid, said the United States cannot renege on its commitment to the only Democratic nation in a dangerous region.

"Using our budget deficit as a reason to abandon Israel is inexcusable," Lowey said in a statement. "It is unclear to me whether Rand Paul speaks for the tea party, the Republican Party or simply himself. I call on all those who value the U.S.-Israel relationship to make it clear that our nation will not abandon our ally Israel."

The United States has stood staunchly with Israel for decades, through various governments in Washington and Jerusalem. The United States and Israel signed a memorandum of understanding several years ago to ensure Israel's military edge in the region. Under the agreement, Israel received $2.8 billion in U.S. dollars in the last fiscal year and is slated to get $3 billion in the current year.

The agreement calls for $3.1 billion in U.S. funds to Israel over a five-year period beginning with the next budget.

Last November, Vice President Joe Biden met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and told the Jewish Federation of North America that the Obama administration "represents an unbroken chain in American leaders who have understood this critical strategic relationship.".

The steadfast support for Israel is widespread in Congress and Paul's proposal is certain to face strong opposition. In a fresh example of that support, six senior members of the House sent a letter to President Barack Obama imploring him to promise a veto of a pending U.N. resolution that condemns Israel and urging him to pressure Palestinian leaders to negotiate directly with Israel.

Signing the letter were House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va.; House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md.; Foreign Affairs Chairwoman Ilena Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla.; the panel's top Democrat, Rep. Howard Berman of California, and the heads of the committee's subcommittee on the Middle East, Reps. Steve Chabot, R-Ohio and Gary Ackerman, D-N.Y.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/01/28/state/n085433S85.DTL
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I'm for stopping all foreign aid.

I love the axe that he gives to the Department of Education.

Is there anything in there that gets rid of the DEA?

God,,, I could go on.
 
AssHatZombie said:
I Fear the rise of all fevered nonsensical believers of crap.
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What you call crap, is what maintains order in our societies. The removal and undermining of that so called "crap" is what is causing chaos in our societies.

Therefore? What is the cure?

Bring that "crap" back into our society.
 
I see no personal benefit, as I neither consume illicit drugs nor receive services from taxes received off of them being sold commercially. The only benefit to having any organizations from the War on Drugs was that they provided us with intel on Afghanistan because they were still operating long after the FBI/CIA/DOD/SS had pulled out of the area with the collapse of the USSR. That simply demonstrates how sad our intelligence gathering efforts were, and should not serve to praise the DEA...
 
Threedee said:
I see no personal benefit, as I neither consume illicit drugs nor receive services from taxes received off of them being sold commercially. The only benefit to having any organizations from the War on Drugs was that they provided us with intel on Afghanistan because they were still operating long after the FBI/CIA/DOD/SS had pulled out of the area with the collapse of the USSR. That simply demonstrates how sad our intelligence gathering efforts were, and should not serve to praise the DEA...
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I hadn't realised before that Mexico and Columbia both produce heroin, you live and learn.
 
Well, those two countries are so into the drug trade, its not surprising that the cartels would want to expand beyond coke/crack into heroin, which is just as big...
 
Threedee said:
Well, those two countries are so into the drug trade, its not surprising that the cartels would want to expand beyond coke/crack into heroin, which is just as big...
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Having done some research I have found that coca leaves were grown in Asia, indeed in the 1920s Java was the biggest producer of cocaine worldwide. I wouldn't be surprised if the South American cartels moved production if the heat becomes too oppressive.

However, coca is a relatively easy plant to grow. In the late 19th century, colonial powers replanted coca outside its natural habitat. There was significant coca cultivation on the island of Java (at the time part of the Dutch East-Indies, currently Indonesia) and Ceylon (Sri Lanka), as well as Formosa (at the time a Japanese protectorate, currently Taiwan). In the 1920s Java was the major producer of coca in the world.

http://www.tni.org/primer/coca-leaf-myths-and-reality
 
Threedee said:
I'd love to get rid of the DEA.
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The DEA is just one big multi billion dollar beaurocracy.

These guys are(or know who is) bringing in the drugs.

When you have the CIA, Military and everyone else caught bringing drugs into the country, you get a scope of how corrupt America is.

The DEA depends on the drug trade to flourish to continue racking in the big bucks.

Look at the entire legal system of America? They have turned crime into big business. There are more cops and more lawyers in America then the rest of the world combined. Still, crime steadily rises. They do nothing about the roots of the problems. It would be bad for business(note sarcasm).

And America has the most people in jail. Does this sound like the greatest nation in the world?

Who was that famous guy that said cops are not here to stop crime but to preserve/contain it? I read that quote years ago but cannot find it.

If the DEA(and CIA) REALLY wanted to stop the drug trade? I assure you. They could.

I am very familiar with the drug trade and everyone on the streets, know who the dealers are and so does the government.

The problem is the big fish are untouchable. They never ever touch the drugs. And when the lower guys get busted there is always someone ready to take his place.

Therefore the most effecting way? Kill the source. Cololmbia has been more of a threat to American lives then Iraq ever was, but yet you do not see America going to war with Colombia do you? Of course not! that would go against their interests.

That would interfere in their profits. Not to mention some politicians do drugs, and feed drugs to their mistresses, not to mention their kids are sometimes drug addicted. These rich kids have the money and the means to also move large amounts of drugs. And their parents protect them....
 
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