Rand Paul: Cut U.S. Aid to Israel

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Definitely not the normal G.O.P. line (or Democratic either for the most part).


GOP senator favors cutting US aid to Israel

Tea party-backed Republican Sen. Rand Paul favors cutting U.S. aid to Israel as part of a deficit-driven effort to slash government spending by $500 billion this year, drawing criticism from Democrats and Republicans who argue the U.S. must be unwavering in its support for the longtime Mideast ally.

The freshman Kentucky lawmaker unveiled his budget proposal this week that would make significant cuts in education, housing and energy while reducing money for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq by $16 billion. Paul's plan also would cut some $20 billion in overseas aid, and he said he wants to eliminate the $3 billion the United States provides to Israel annually in foreign military assistance.

"The overwhelming majority of Americans agree with Senator Paul — our current fiscal crisis makes it impossible to continue the spending policies of the past," Paul spokesman Gary Howard said in a statement responding to the criticism. "We simply cannot afford to give money away, even to our allies, with so much debt mounting on a daily basis."

The latest economic forecast puts the deficit at a record $1.5 trillion.

Paul explained his position in an interview with CNN on Wednesday, saying he respects Israel as a Democratic nation but feared funding an arms race in the Mideast. His proposal drew a swift response from Republicans and Democrats.

"We share Senator Paul's commitment to restraining the growth of federal spending, but we reject his misguided proposal to end U.S. assistance to our ally Israel," said Matthew Brooks, executive director for the Republican Jewish Coalition, in a statement Thursday. The organization counts several former senior Bush administration officials on its board of directors.

Rep. Nita Lowey of the New York, the top Democrat on the House Appropriations subcommittee that oversees foreign aid, said the United States cannot renege on its commitment to the only Democratic nation in a dangerous region.

"Using our budget deficit as a reason to abandon Israel is inexcusable," Lowey said in a statement. "It is unclear to me whether Rand Paul speaks for the tea party, the Republican Party or simply himself. I call on all those who value the U.S.-Israel relationship to make it clear that our nation will not abandon our ally Israel."

The United States has stood staunchly with Israel for decades, through various governments in Washington and Jerusalem. The United States and Israel signed a memorandum of understanding several years ago to ensure Israel's military edge in the region. Under the agreement, Israel received $2.8 billion in U.S. dollars in the last fiscal year and is slated to get $3 billion in the current year.

The agreement calls for $3.1 billion in U.S. funds to Israel over a five-year period beginning with the next budget.

Last November, Vice President Joe Biden met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and told the Jewish Federation of North America that the Obama administration "represents an unbroken chain in American leaders who have understood this critical strategic relationship.".

The steadfast support for Israel is widespread in Congress and Paul's proposal is certain to face strong opposition. In a fresh example of that support, six senior members of the House sent a letter to President Barack Obama imploring him to promise a veto of a pending U.N. resolution that condemns Israel and urging him to pressure Palestinian leaders to negotiate directly with Israel.

Signing the letter were House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va.; House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md.; Foreign Affairs Chairwoman Ilena Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla.; the panel's top Democrat, Rep. Howard Berman of California, and the heads of the committee's subcommittee on the Middle East, Reps. Steve Chabot, R-Ohio and Gary Ackerman, D-N.Y.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/01/28/state/n085433S85.DTL
 
LOLZ, nice!! Let's see if anyone else is willing to piss off AIPAC, now that Rand has offered to hold the door open.

Part of the Camp David agreement was that military aid to Egypt more or less matched that of Israel. There are many US military suppliers that have done very well from it, they will also be lobbying hard to retain the status quo. The Egyptian Air Force has 216 F-16s (plus 20 on order) making it the 4th largest operator of the F-16 in the World. In addition, it has over 1000 M1A1 tanks.
 
Proof, if proof were needed that a crazy man, given enough time, will astound passers by with a snippet of truth which will shame them into tossing paper money into his hat.

Unfortunately, i have the impression that the President disregarded that message in favour of the lovely look on the mad man's face which said "Let Israel get away with murder".
 
Definitely not the normal G.O.P. line (or Democratic either for the most part).


GOP senator favors cutting US aid to Israel

Tea party-backed Republican Sen. Rand Paul favors cutting U.S. aid to Israel as part of a deficit-driven effort to slash government spending by $500 billion this year, drawing criticism from Democrats and Republicans who argue the U.S. must be unwavering in its support for the longtime Mideast ally.

The freshman Kentucky lawmaker unveiled his budget proposal this week that would make significant cuts in education, housing and energy while reducing money for wars in Afghanistan and Iraq by $16 billion. Paul's plan also would cut some $20 billion in overseas aid, and he said he wants to eliminate the $3 billion the United States provides to Israel annually in foreign military assistance.

"The overwhelming majority of Americans agree with Senator Paul — our current fiscal crisis makes it impossible to continue the spending policies of the past," Paul spokesman Gary Howard said in a statement responding to the criticism. "We simply cannot afford to give money away, even to our allies, with so much debt mounting on a daily basis."

The latest economic forecast puts the deficit at a record $1.5 trillion.

Paul explained his position in an interview with CNN on Wednesday, saying he respects Israel as a Democratic nation but feared funding an arms race in the Mideast. His proposal drew a swift response from Republicans and Democrats.

"We share Senator Paul's commitment to restraining the growth of federal spending, but we reject his misguided proposal to end U.S. assistance to our ally Israel," said Matthew Brooks, executive director for the Republican Jewish Coalition, in a statement Thursday. The organization counts several former senior Bush administration officials on its board of directors.

Rep. Nita Lowey of the New York, the top Democrat on the House Appropriations subcommittee that oversees foreign aid, said the United States cannot renege on its commitment to the only Democratic nation in a dangerous region.

"Using our budget deficit as a reason to abandon Israel is inexcusable," Lowey said in a statement. "It is unclear to me whether Rand Paul speaks for the tea party, the Republican Party or simply himself. I call on all those who value the U.S.-Israel relationship to make it clear that our nation will not abandon our ally Israel."

The United States has stood staunchly with Israel for decades, through various governments in Washington and Jerusalem. The United States and Israel signed a memorandum of understanding several years ago to ensure Israel's military edge in the region. Under the agreement, Israel received $2.8 billion in U.S. dollars in the last fiscal year and is slated to get $3 billion in the current year.

The agreement calls for $3.1 billion in U.S. funds to Israel over a five-year period beginning with the next budget.

Last November, Vice President Joe Biden met with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and told the Jewish Federation of North America that the Obama administration "represents an unbroken chain in American leaders who have understood this critical strategic relationship.".

The steadfast support for Israel is widespread in Congress and Paul's proposal is certain to face strong opposition. In a fresh example of that support, six senior members of the House sent a letter to President Barack Obama imploring him to promise a veto of a pending U.N. resolution that condemns Israel and urging him to pressure Palestinian leaders to negotiate directly with Israel.

Signing the letter were House Majority Leader Eric Cantor, R-Va.; House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer, D-Md.; Foreign Affairs Chairwoman Ilena Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla.; the panel's top Democrat, Rep. Howard Berman of California, and the heads of the committee's subcommittee on the Middle East, Reps. Steve Chabot, R-Ohio and Gary Ackerman, D-N.Y.


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/01/28/state/n085433S85.DTL






Now THAT is the single smartest thing I have heard from any politician in years. First of all we could save lots of money and start taking better care of our own. And, secondly terrorists from other countries can stop trying to kill us off because of our support of Israel.
 
Now THAT is the single smartest thing I have heard from any politician in years. First of all we could save lots of money and start taking better care of our own. And, secondly terrorists from other countries can stop trying to kill us off because of our support of Israel.
I hardly think so Red. US foreign AID to ALL nations amounts to around $25 billion dollars. Our Military budget alone is over ten time that. That was less then a months spending during the Iraq war.
 
Of course this is also an example of what happens when you start talking about meaningful budget cuts. As soon as Rand made his comments supporters of Israel went ballistic.You can still hear them screaming and compared to overall spending US Aid to Isreal is chump change. What we spend on foreign AID wouldn't service one year of interest on our national debt. If those in congress act like this over foreign aid what is it going to be like when we start talking meaningful cuts and/or tax hikes. What happens when we decide to cut military spending by a third? What happens when we raise the ceiling on the payroll tax to keep SS solvent? What happens when we decide to means test SS and Medicare to lower expenditures?
 
I hardly think so Red. US foreign AID to ALL nations amounts to around $25 billion dollars. Our Military budget alone is over ten time that. That was less then a months spending during the Iraq war.

Actually Mott you are wrong, the US military budget is very nearly $700 billion and that doesn't include all the so called black projects. So the total is more like 30 times the foreign aid budget.
 
Actually Mott you are wrong, the US military budget is very nearly $700 billion and that doesn't include all the so called black projects. So the total is more like 30 times the foreign aid budget.
Go back and read my comment Tom. I said "it was OVER 10 times", now correct me if I'm wrong but 30 times is over 10 times, correct?
 
No surprise there then.
Yea, though I do understand the impluse to say. "We're to far in debt and cannot afford to give money to other nations." The fact is, is that most of the money spent of foreign aid is well spent. The US spends the majority of foriegn aid in two areas. Maintaining the Egypt/Israeli peace accord (around 6 to 7 billion) and aid for sub-Saharan Africa in combating the AIDS epidemic (around another 6 to 7 billion I believe).

The reason it is money well spent is that the cost for AID to Egypt and Israel has prevented war for 30 years and compared to the actual costs of being dragged into a ME war, as we've seen with Iraq, is small. So that's money well spent.

As for what we spend in sub-Saharan Africa combating AIDs, well that's nothing compared to what we would be spending if that pandemic were to spread to the USA at African levels. So again, money well spent. Even George W. Bush thought so and still does.
 
Cue AIPAC calling Paul anti-semetic, cue more gasping noises from those with lips sewn firmly to Israeli ass. We need to cut funding to schools but NEVER to God's chosen people(and the proposed site for armaggedon).
 
Now THAT is the single smartest thing I have heard from any politician in years. First of all we could save lots of money and start taking better care of our own. And, secondly terrorists from other countries can stop trying to kill us off because of our support of Israel.

perhaps in light of current affairs, we should cut aid to both egypt and israel
 
Cue AIPAC calling Paul anti-semetic, cue more gasping noises from those with lips sewn firmly to Israeli ass. We need to cut funding to schools but NEVER to God's chosen people(and the proposed site for armaggedon).

So are you stating that US policy in Israel is because of end times escatology?

We have supprted Israel because they are a friendly power in an unfriendly part of the world.
 
I hardly think so Red. US foreign AID to ALL nations amounts to around $25 billion dollars. Our Military budget alone is over ten time that. That was less then a months spending during the Iraq war.

You forget to add military foreign aid. We, the US military, ensures aid from numerous nations arrive at intended destinations- The UN refuses to allow that cost to be counted as foreign aid....

Imagine if we cut that portion of our military budget-
 
So are you stating that US policy in Israel is because of end times escatology?

We have supprted Israel because they are a friendly power in an unfriendly part of the world.
To a lesser degree yes, it is do to end times escatology. Maybe even more now. Israel is no longer as valuable an ally in that region. Back when the Soviet Union held sway with Arab nations yes, but now not so much.
 
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