Rich Use Tax Cuts To Invest Abroad?!!
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I am constantly amazed at the skill of lefties to spin the tax debate. Here in this very thread, the initial assertion is, that rich people have gotten a tax cut, and numerous righties are actually arguing in favor of this tax cut... but there was no tax cut!!! We seem to get constantly cajoled into the debate of whether it is wise to cut the taxes of the wealthy, even when we are actually leaving the tax rate unchanged. Defending something that just isn't happening in reality... it's quite peculiar. Yet, over and over again, I watch this happen, because the right seems to be unable to realize how the worm has turned, and how the liberals have manufactured legitimate debate out of a complete non-reality. There has not been a tax decrease for the rich! Currently, in our system, the rich pay the most amount of money in tax, and the highest percentage (chunk) of what they earn. This, while a substantial portion of people in America, pay little to no tax at all.
The Bush-era tax cuts, were a reduction in rates from Clinton-era tax hikes, tweaks... nothing as significant as the tax cuts implemented under Reagan, just moderate adjustments in rates by a few percent. The actual monetary value in revenues over time, is debatable topic, people have a variety of opinion on what happens there, but one thing most economists agree on, increasing taxes during bad economic times, will not work to increase economic prosperity and growth. The debate with the liberals should be over tax increases, and how they stifle growth, jobs, economic prosperity in general... It is the antithesis of what we want to do at this time, to increase the tax rates on anyone! Most especially, those who have the means and capability to actually go out there and GROW the economy, hire new people, expand their enterprises!
No..... We must entertain the leftist attacks on capitalism, with these nuggets of 'libwisdom' from HufPo.. or some other load of pinhead crap, to wade through and try to argue about wit complete futility. I think it best to just ignore this shit, until the lefty libs get a clue and start articulating an argument for increased taxation during recession. Because, THAT IS the debate here.
The Bush-era tax cuts, were a reduction in rates from Clinton-era tax hikes, tweaks... nothing as significant as the tax cuts implemented under Reagan, just moderate adjustments in rates by a few percent. The actual monetary value in revenues over time, is debatable topic, people have a variety of opinion on what happens there, but one thing most economists agree on, increasing taxes during bad economic times, will not work to increase economic prosperity and growth. The debate with the liberals should be over tax increases, and how they stifle growth, jobs, economic prosperity in general... It is the antithesis of what we want to do at this time, to increase the tax rates on anyone! Most especially, those who have the means and capability to actually go out there and GROW the economy, hire new people, expand their enterprises!
No..... We must entertain the leftist attacks on capitalism, with these nuggets of 'libwisdom' from HufPo.. or some other load of pinhead crap, to wade through and try to argue about wit complete futility. I think it best to just ignore this shit, until the lefty libs get a clue and start articulating an argument for increased taxation during recession. Because, THAT IS the debate here.
Why do you never respond to a question? Why do you think it is O.K. to send money out of this country? How do you have the balls to say I hate freedom?
How can you be such a selfish hypocrite?
Just because it is your right to do something, does not make it moraly correct to do so.
You really want to get pwned twice on the same day ?
1. Seven years of a great economy (at least until a Democratic Congress took over)
...I wasn't gonna bring up Clintons last effects on the economy and the March 2001–Nov 2001 recession at the very start of the Bush Presidency, but you brought him up....
It only lasted a few months and even the devastating WTC attacks couldn't hold our economy back for long....
until the Congress was taken over by democrats....2/3 of the government controlled by trolls makes an impact....and the downward spiral began...
want to watch the videos ?
2. Presided over a country at full employment, 4.5 to 6 % unemployment and a solid stock market...
Heres just a sample of history...
"These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."-----Barney Frank---The New York Times (11 September 2003)
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Timeline shows Bush, McCain warning Dems of financial and housing crisis; meltdown
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
I answered you're question, just not in the way that you would have liked. Perhaps if you read my answer instead of constantly accusing me of hypocrisy, selfishness, immorality and wasting your time thinking up your next insult....
Why is it immoral for me to do as I like with my earnings yet moral for you to judge me based on your own criteria? It appears it is you who is the hypocrite here.
Based Chad
Was it me?
I answered you're question, just not in the way that you would have liked. Perhaps if you read my answer instead of constantly accusing me of hypocrisy, selfishness, immorality and wasting your time thinking up your next insult....
Why is it immoral for me to do as I like with my earnings yet moral for you to judge me based on your own criteria? It appears it is you who is the hypocrite here.
You have the right to be a selfish prick. Just dont pretend it will revitalize the economy, when it won't. That's the point. Republicans are lying and saying that tax cuts are all we need, but its not enough. we need protectionism and tariffs.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
I'm a capitalist, so I'll look to my best interest. In this socialist regime, others will get screwed. That's not my fault, but that of the socialists.
That the best you could do? I guess you had no response to the rest of my facts.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
LOL. The only fact applicable now is that Bravo pwned you badly with his post. No surprise that a liberal refuses to accept personal responsibility for that.
Based Chad
Was it me?
You do that. But those in power are supposed to ensure the general welfare, as mentioned in the constitution. Managing trade policy is their perogative. It's general welfare, not specifically only for multinationals welfare.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
They are managing it poorly, and I will use my options to take advantage of the situation.
LOL. The only fact applicable now is that Bravo pwned you badly with his post. No surprise that a liberal refuses to accept personal responsibility for that.
I don't know what pwned means. I do know that he didn't respond to what I said, so if he thinks he somehow beat me out, good for him, he clearly needs something to raise his self esteem.
DamnYankee
Loyal to the end
It is a purposeful mis-spelling of "owned", meaning he destroyed your argument. All you could do was claimed that he didn't address your points, a lie, exactly what you did in the other thread.
Based Chad
Was it me?
Because they are corrupted by multinational corporate interests and are managing policy to benefit those corporations instead of the long term interests of the american people.
That's great, except he didn't reply. Go back and read the original post. No lie. You will know if or when I lie.
Thats a couple of the points and you can't respond ....care to go on to the rest of your nonsense....or are you gonna refute my post....
I'm not gonna tackle every issue in one post, but I'm ready to go on if you've nothing to say about the points I've made....actually, the video is just undeniable ......as is Barney's quote, right out of his own mouth...
Here ya go ....try it again with this points and then we'll bet to the rest of it....
Can't you at least separate it the rest of the post...?
1. Seven years of a great economy (at least until a Democratic Congress took over) ...I wasn't gonna bring up Clintons last effects on the economy and the March 2001–Nov 2001 recession at the very start of the Bush Presidency, but you brought him up....
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I tire of schooling you.....
It only lasted a few months and even the devastating WTC attacks couldn't hold our economy back for long....
until the Congress was taken over by democrats....2/3 of the government controlled by trolls makes an impact....and the downward spiral began...
want to watch the videos ?
So now you've given up on the bullshit of Bush causing a banking meltdown? I don't blame you, you were busted on that by the video....for 7 years of the Bush Admin. JOBS were abundant....4 to 6% unemployment..thats an undeniable fact...then the Democratic Congress...that is also an undeniable fact....
I2. Presided over a country at full employment, 4.5 to 6 % unemployment and a solid stock market.
I repeat...for 7 years of the Bush Admin. JOBS were abundant....4 to 6% unemployment..thats an undeniable fact..ALL IN SPITE OF THE WTC DISASTER.......then the Democratic Congress...that is also an undeniable historical fact....
Heres just a sample of history...and the cause of the meltdown of fannie mae and freddy mac and thus the banking system in general....
"These two entities — Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac — are not facing any kind of financial crisis. The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."-----Barney Frank---The New York Times (11 September 2003)
The fundamentals of the economy were sound, it was Freddy and Fannie that were on the verge of collapse because of Liberal housing policy that started back in the Clinton admin. and Barney was warned as early as 2003 that he should take some action as a leader on the banking committee...instead ....he denied any problem and continued to suck dick....but you're right that Bush should have ignored the lying homo bastard, if thats what you're implying...
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