Gov. Neil Abercrombie to abandon efforts to dispel claims that President Obama was bo

How do birthers have the gall to say what should or shouldn't be an official documentation of birth for any state?

why is it only "birthers"? you actually believe that no one but birthers can talk about how to verify that a president is eligible to serve under the constitution....i guess the founders were birthers as they were the first to talk about eligibility

moron
 
Only birthers go for "candidate."
Only hacks and race baiters pretend that this has to do with skin color as they ignore the same questions asked and answered by the man running against him in the exact same election. Are you sensitive about your "baityness"?
 
Only hacks and race baiters pretend that this has to do with skin color as they ignore the same questions asked and answered by the man running against him in the exact same election. Are you sensitive about your "baityness"?

onceler said yesterday it is shameful to believe obama is eligible and he said he doesn't like that a black person is in the WH
 
What is truly pathetic about this entire "issue" is that it doesn't matter if Obama was born in Hawaii, Kenya, or the Moon; he is a U.S. citizen regardless, by virtue of his mother being a U.S. citizen.
 
i believe that is inacurate

http://www.visalaw.com/05jan1/2jan105.html

What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?

Again, children born abroad to two US citizen parents were US citizens at birth, as long as one of the parents resided in the US at some point before the birth of the child.

When one parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national, the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child, with five of the years after the age of 14. An exception for people serving in the military was created by considering time spent outside the US on military duty as time spent in the US.

While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship, amendments since 1952 have eliminated these requirements.
 
http://www.visalaw.com/05jan1/2jan105.html

What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?

Again, children born abroad to two US citizen parents were US citizens at birth, as long as one of the parents resided in the US at some point before the birth of the child.

When one parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national, the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child, with five of the years after the age of 14. An exception for people serving in the military was created by considering time spent outside the US on military duty as time spent in the US.

While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship, amendments since 1952 have eliminated these requirements.

ok, thats that one person's opinion of the law, but i thought i remember damo posting the actual law and i thought it did not support that...maybe i'm remembering incorrectly
 
Let's be more realistic. This began when he was a candidate, and continues because he never did do what his opponent did. You know, that other guy who would have been the 44th President had the exact same election gone differently.


McCain never produced his birth certificate.

And, like I have said, like eleventy billion times before, the questions regarding McCain's eligibility and the "questions" regarding Obama's eligibility are not the same. No one has ever doubted that McCain was born where he says he was born such that viewing his birth certificate would shed any light on the actual question of whether a person born in the Panama Canal Zone is a "natural born citizen."
 
McCain never produced his birth certificate.

And, like I have said, like eleventy billion times before, the questions regarding McCain's eligibility and the "questions" regarding Obama's eligibility are not the same. No one has ever doubted that McCain was born where he says he was born such that viewing his birth certificate would shed any light on the actual question of whether a person born in the Panama Canal Zone is a "natural born citizen."

yes he did you liar, you constantly lie about this no matter how many times i've given you links and debunked your bs

FACT: mccain was sued as ineligible and his b/c was demanded in discovery

FACT: obama was sued as ineligible and his b/c was demanded in discovery
 
yes he did you liar, you constantly lie about this no matter how many times i've given you links and debunked your bs

FACT: mccain was sued as ineligible and his b/c was demanded in discovery

FACT: obama was sued as ineligible and his b/c was demanded in discovery


McCain never produced his birth certificate. He didn't. He did not produce it. It may have been produced by somebody, but it didn't come from McCain.

FACT: The "fact" that something is requested (demanded? seriously?) in discovery does not mean that it is produced.
 
McCain never produced his birth certificate. He didn't. He did not produce it. It may have been produced by somebody, but it didn't come from McCain.

FACT: The "fact" that something is requested (demanded? seriously?) in discovery does not mean that it is produced.

:blah::blah::blah:
 
why is it only "birthers"? you actually believe that no one but birthers can talk about how to verify that a president is eligible to serve under the constitution....i guess the founders were birthers as they were the first to talk about eligibility

moron

We're not talking about verifying, we're talking about birthers deciding that Hawaii's official, legal document isn't suitable, and that they should be able to demand another document.
 
i believe that is inacurate

Does Obama fit into any of these categories?

The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth:

(a) a person born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof;

(b) a person born in the United States to a member of an Indian, Eskimo, Aleutian, or other aboriginal tribe: Provided, That the granting of citizenship under this subsection shall not in any manner impair or otherwise affect the right of such person to tribal or other property;

(c) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents both of whom are citizens of the United States and one of whom has had a residence in the United States or one of its outlying possessions, prior to the birth of such person;

(d) a person born outside of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year prior to the birth of such person, and the other of whom is a national, but not a citizen of the United States;

(e) a person born in an outlying possession of the United States of parents
one of whom is a citizen of the United States who has been physically present in the United States or one of its outlying possessions for a continuous period of one year at any time prior to the birth of such person;

(f) a person of unknown parentage found in the United States while under the age of five years, until shown, prior to his attaining the age of twenty-one years, not to have been born in the United States;

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person

(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or

(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date; and

(h) a person born before noon (Eastern Standard Time) May 24, 1934, outside the limits and jurisdiction of the United States of an alien father and a mother who is a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, had resided in the United States.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1401.html
 
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