Palin throws kerosene on the fire

christiefan915 said:
You're comparing apples to oranges. The Brits who post here have stated over and over that our definition of liberal and conservative as applicable to government isn't the same as theirs. Also, you imply that just because 750,000 Brits protested the war, they must be liberal. Did it cross your mind that they protested their leader Blair sending British young men off to fight a war that didn't even involve their country? Your fallacy is in thinking that conservatives can't be against war when that's not the case, especially if it involves their family members who might get killed.



If you can prove Gabriel Range is liberal by citing a reliable article and not just flapping your gums, I'll take it into consideration. I've already searched him on a number of pages and nowhere is there mention of his political affiliation.
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Brits who post here can claim whatever they want but the fact is that if you want big government and choose to interpret the US Constitution as having next to no limits on government that makes you a liberal, pure and simple.

With regards to your "search" for the the director's political definition, you are being disingenuous at best:
I think that the way the administration has handled the war on terror is great cause for concern. I think it’s had an incredibly corrosive effect, not just on America but on the broader world.
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http://movies.about.com/od/directorinterviews/a/deathgr110106_2.htm

His position is exactly the position of liberals here in the US.
 
Damn Yankee said:
Brits who post here can claim whatever they want but the fact is that if you want big government and choose to interpret the US Constitution as having next to no limits on government that makes you a liberal, pure and simple.

With regards to your "search" for the the director's political definition, you are being disingenuous at best:
http://movies.about.com/od/directorinterviews/a/deathgr110106_2.htm

His position is exactly the position of liberals here in the US.
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Followed by "One of the criticisms I’ve faced in making this film is for being British. But Tony Blair and President Bush are always very keen to remind us that we’re all in this war on terror together. 9/11 was an attack on American soil, but the consequences of the response to that have absolutely been global. They affect us in Britain as well as in the same way they affect Americans.”

And:

"I think the initial knee-jerk reaction was based on the notion that this film was in some way a piece of wish fulfillment, that it was some kind of liberal fantasy and that it would somehow celebrate in the assassination of President Bush. In actual fact, it is none of those things. It is a serious film which does not take the assassination of President Bush as entertainment. It takes it as the starting point for what I hope is some very serious questions about some issues that face us all, that have faced us all in the last five years.”

"I think it is definitely the case that a lot of things have happened in the last five years that we have every reason to be very alarmed about. I think they have been sort of absorbed into this notion of the War on Terror and the nation being at war. I think that has been used as a pretext to do things that probably we should be very alarmed about.”

He's a Brit talking about the toxic policies of the bush administration and how Blair willingly bought into it. Furthermore, he's not interpreting the U.S. Constitution.
 
christiefan915 said:
Followed by "One of the criticisms I’ve faced in making this film is for being British. But Tony Blair and President Bush are always very keen to remind us that we’re all in this war on terror together. 9/11 was an attack on American soil, but the consequences of the response to that have absolutely been global. They affect us in Britain as well as in the same way they affect Americans.”

And:

"I think the initial knee-jerk reaction was based on the notion that this film was in some way a piece of wish fulfillment, that it was some kind of liberal fantasy and that it would somehow celebrate in the assassination of President Bush. In actual fact, it is none of those things. It is a serious film which does not take the assassination of President Bush as entertainment. It takes it as the starting point for what I hope is some very serious questions about some issues that face us all, that have faced us all in the last five years.”

"I think it is definitely the case that a lot of things have happened in the last five years that we have every reason to be very alarmed about. I think they have been sort of absorbed into this notion of the War on Terror and the nation being at war. I think that has been used as a pretext to do things that probably we should be very alarmed about.”

He's a Brit talking about the toxic policies of the bush administration and how Blair willingly bought into it. Furthermore, he's not interpreting the U.S. Constitution.
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Again, your use of the term "toxic policies" and his long diatribe of excuses proves that both you and he are liberal. Nothing more.

Liberals hate personal responsibility and many can't even admit that they are liberal.
 
Since all you Liberal hypocrites found comments from the right to be so "galvanizing"; where the fuck are you now, since Jimmy Hoffa has decided to declare "war"??

"Warming up the crowd before President Obama’s speech in Detroit this afternoon, Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa, Jr. had some choice words for the Tea Party.

Hoffa warned the largely union crowd that there was a “war on workers” and urged organized labor to take to the ballot box to fight lawmakers that oppose the president’s agenda.

“We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They’ve got a war, they got a war with us and there’s only going to be one winner. It’s going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We’re going to win that war,” Hoffa told thousands of workers gathered for the annual Labor Day rally.

“President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march… Everybody here’s got a vote…Let’s take these sons of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong,” he concluded."

But then the Obamapoligists are already saying that this was just meant to mean "get out to vote" and Obama, who spoke right after this, never said a word to "tone done the rhetoric".
 
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