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Taichiliberal

Shaken, not stirred!
Okay, I'm not one for public mourning rituals....and what went on in Arkansas was more like a pep rally of sorts to me.....but hey, I'll respect people for how they handle grief.

As for Obama......seems the Community Organizer just check mated the neocon noise machine. I'll disagree with Obama on several points, but damned if he wasn't MISTER PRESIDENT tonight!

I tip my hat to you, President Obama.


CORRECTION: ARIZONA, NOT ARKANSAS.
 
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Okay, I'm not one for public mourning rituals....and what went on in Arkansas was more like a pep rally of sorts to me.....but hey, I'll respect people for how they handle grief.

As for Obama......seems the Community Organizer just check mated the neocon noise machine. I'll disagree with Obama on several points, but damned if he wasn't MISTER PRESIDENT tonight!

I tip my hat to you, President Obama.

Oh, but Chicklet... in the other thread, you said that Obama was ignorant of the facts, that he hadn't done his research, and that he was espousing Conservative talking points! You didn't agree with his call to have civility in discourse, or his assertions that 'political rhetoric' doesn't play a role in what a madman does, and we shouldn't try to attribute blame.

Maybe you need to listen to his speech again, and do some research (or soul searching) of your own... you might start by noting the incident took place in Arizona, not Arkansas.
 
Chicklet, here's a reminder again of what you said, just moments ago in another thread.

Okay, so you've had a full court press of the neocon noise machine to try and convince us all that the last 2 years of rabid, hysteria prompting anti-Obama/Dem controlled gov't by the GOP and it's pundits has NO negative effect on the population, and in no way can condone/promote/incite the violent actions of emotionally disturbed folk or people on the edge of extreme viewpoints. ...Well, all one has to do is some honest research to see how wrong these folk are.

So when Obama said tonight, that our political discourse doesn't condone/promote/incite violent actions of emotionally disturbed folk... was he telling a lie?

When he said passion for our viewpoints is what makes America great, was he lying then?

Has Obama failed to do his research? Is Obama not being honest? Has he now joined the neocon noise machine? Or, are you just a hack who is full of shit? It's got to be one or the other, I am curious as to which you believe it to be?
 
Oh, but Chicklet... in the other thread, you said that Obama was ignorant of the facts, that he hadn't done his research, and that he was espousing Conservative talking points!

Really? Because unless you're going to provide the actual post that states what you allege in no uncertain terms, you're lying as usual.


You didn't agree with his call to have civility in discourse, or his assertions that 'political rhetoric' doesn't play a role in what a madman does, and we shouldn't try to attribute blame.

:lies: I said that Obama has to heal the nation.....I also said that as the nuns taught me, telling the TRUTH and challenging LIARS is a major part of healing.

Maybe you need to listen to his speech again, and do some research (or soul searching) of your own... you might start by noting the incident took place in Arizona, not Arkansas.

Maybe you need to stop lying about what I write....but you and I both know that you don't have the GUTS to actually link/post EXACTLY what I wrote, because it would make you out to be the intellectually bankrupt cretin that you are.

THE PRESIDENT KNOCKED IN A HOME RUN LAST NIGHT....AND ALL ONE HAS TO DO IS LISTEN TO THE PETTY, DESPERATE WHININGS OF THE NEOCON PUNDITRY TO KNOW THIS.

 
Chicklet, here's a reminder again of what you said, just moments ago in another thread.


Okay, so you've had a full court press of the neocon noise machine to try and convince us all that the last 2 years of rabid, hysteria prompting anti-Obama/Dem controlled gov't by the GOP and it's pundits has NO negative effect on the population, and in no way can condone/promote/incite the violent actions of emotionally disturbed folk or people on the edge of extreme viewpoints. ...Well, all one has to do is some honest research to see how wrong these folk are.

So when Obama said tonight, that our political discourse doesn't condone/promote/incite violent actions of emotionally disturbed folk... was he telling a lie?

When he said passion for our viewpoints is what makes America great, was he lying then?

Has Obama failed to do his research? Is Obama not being honest? Has he now joined the neocon noise machine? Or, are you just a hack who is full of shit? It's got to be one or the other, I am curious as to which you believe it to be?

And as usual, folks...our Dixie Dunce takes something out of context and attaches his own supposition and conjecture in order to LIE about the intention of what I wrote.

I DARE Dixie to link the post he's trying to butcher....because if he does the audience will see that I was providing historical, fact based evidence as to how neocon numbskulls like Dixie LIE (or are incredibly ignorant of) regarding the influence of neocon punditry hype and mantras on Obama, liberals, the gov't, etc.

Dixie FORGETS that one of keystones of Obama's speech was a call for HONEST discussion.....something the current neocon peanut gallery is obviously encapable of....and I'm not just whistl'in Dixie on that! :)
 
The Obama could kill his children and Libby would say it was a home run.

And whenever you can't win an argument, you post Damn Yankee idiocy like this. Grow up, DY....or are you so pathetic that following me around with nonsense like you post here is entertainment for you?

Whatever keeps you off the streets, DY.
 
And as usual, folks...our Dixie Dunce takes something out of context and attaches his own supposition and conjecture in order to LIE about the intention of what I wrote.

I DARE Dixie to link the post he's trying to butcher....because if he does the audience will see that I was providing historical, fact based evidence as to how neocon numbskulls like Dixie LIE (or are incredibly ignorant of) regarding the influence of neocon punditry hype and mantras on Obama, liberals, the gov't, etc.

Dixie FORGETS that one of keystones of Obama's speech was a call for HONEST discussion.....something the current neocon peanut gallery is obviously encapable of....and I'm not just whistl'in Dixie on that! :)

"a call for HONEST discussion." You can say that again! A good example is all the lies and bullshit regarding HCR and the 'death panels' and 'bankrupt the nation' and the rest of the garbage spouted.

Not one nation with government health care has reverted to the old 'pay or suffer' system. Not one nation has any politician of prominence campaigning on doing so. The citizens of every nation with government health care insist on keeping it. Not one exception.

Lies. Blatant lies. Blatant Republican lies.

If only there could be HONEST discussion.
 
Chicklet, I don't need to post the thread, it's on the main page, anyone can find it.

Answer my question PUNK!

Just as I thought, folks.....our Dixie Dunce is a LIAR......he DOES NOT DARE post the link to the post he excerpted from, because if he did YOU the AUDIENCE would read the ENTIRE exchange, which would then change the narrative that Dixie is trying to promote.

Dixie is a typical intellectual coward....when he can't win an argument he tries to change the discussion so that his Dixie dumb supposition and conjecture are suddenly the REAL point of discussion. But when properly challenge, our Dixie dunce shovels more BS than a custodian at a circus.

Dixie, go wipe your butt on your pointy little hood....better yet, keep repeating your BS for all the world to see what a dishonest little fool you are. :awesome:
 
Just as I thought, folks.....our Dixie Dunce is a LIAR......he DOES NOT DARE post the link to the post he excerpted from, because if he did YOU the AUDIENCE would read the ENTIRE exchange, which would then change the narrative that Dixie is trying to promote.

Dixie is a typical intellectual coward....when he can't win an argument he tries to change the discussion so that his Dixie dumb supposition and conjecture are suddenly the REAL point of discussion. But when properly challenge, our Dixie dunce shovels more BS than a custodian at a circus.

Dixie, go wipe your butt on your pointy little hood....better yet, keep repeating your BS for all the world to see what a dishonest little fool you are. :awesome:

Chicklet, why do I need to post a link to a thread on the first page of the main board? I posted the actual quote you made, here, I'll do it again:

Okay, so you've had a full court press of the neocon noise machine to try and convince us all that the last 2 years of rabid, hysteria prompting anti-Obama/Dem controlled gov't by the GOP and it's pundits has NO negative effect on the population, and in no way can condone/promote/incite the violent actions of emotionally disturbed folk or people on the edge of extreme viewpoints. ...Well, all one has to do is some honest research to see how wrong these folk are.

Now, those are your words, Chicklet, I don't need to post the link to them, they are posted in the other thread, and anyone is free to go pull that up and read the entire thing if they like. I'm not lying or distorting your words, I posted exactly what you said. Now, let's compare that with what Obama said in his speech:

The loss of these wonderful people should make every one of us strive to be better. To be better in our private lives, to be better friends and neighbors and coworkers and parents. And if, as has been discussed in recent days, their death helps usher in more civility in our public discourse, let us remember it is not because a simple lack of civility caused this tragedy -- it did not -- but rather because only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to the challenges of our nation in a way that would make them proud.

Obama directly contradicts the point you are now trying to make, and completely debunks your assertions. He is saying the diametric opposite of what you are saying, yet you are still yammering on with your nonsense, while trying to claim some sort of 'pride' in his speech! I've never seen a liberal be so proud of being completely PWNED by Obama... Of course, I have been very vocal about my sentiments regarding his speech, I've had nothing but praise for what he said, and it needed to be said... but YOU needed to LISTEN! This particular paragraph was directed at YOU! But here you are today, just as you were yesterday, continuing to do the very thing Obama said we shouldn't be doing. The thread I quoted you from, comes less than two hours after the president gave his speech. He categorically rejects everything you are saying about the role of political discourse and rhetoric. How do you explain that? How can you justify praising his speech, when his speech directly contradicts what you are arguing, and supports what I've been saying all along? Quite a quandary you've found yourself in, it seems... but no worries, right Chicklet? You'll just lie and distort, and pretend like the text of the speech doesn't really matter, and you'll try your best to divert the topic and make this thread about me and what I haven't "been honest" about... anything but face reality, because you can't. If you do, it exposes you as a fraud and hypocrite.... so come on now, keep up the pace, toss us all another diversionary comment or two, to distract from the ass reaming Obama gave you in his speech... I don't blame you Chicklet, that has to hurt!
 
Wow, Chicklet is silent on this all of a sudden. Run Chicklet Run!

B. Obama: The loss of these wonderful people should make every one of us strive to be better. To be better in our private lives, to be better friends and neighbors and coworkers and parents. And if, as has been discussed in recent days, their death helps usher in more civility in our public discourse, let us remember it is not because a simple lack of civility caused this tragedy -- it did not -- but rather because only a more civil and honest public discourse can help us face up to the challenges of our nation in a way that would make them proud.

Do you think that is what you are doing with your continued threads attempting to exploit this tragedy and blame it on the rhetoric of the right? The President most directly put this to rest for you and the rest of the liberal left, but you still don't care, you are going to continue to be vitriolic and hateful to others in your discourse, and refuse to do what the president asked of you.

Shame, Chicklet... Shame!
 
Dixie FORGETS that one of keystones of Obama's speech was a call for HONEST discussion.....something the current neocon peanut gallery is obviously encapable of....and I'm not just whistl'in Dixie on that!

Dixie stated:
why do I need to post a link to a thread on the first page of the main board? I posted the actual quote you made, here, I'll do it again:

Well folks, least to say that Dixie is untrustworthy...because if he can cut & paste PART of a post, then why not let the audience see the ENTIRE post? Seems the WHOLE truth is something Dixie is allergic too.

Like I said, Dixie is just full of it....period. He and his ilk have spent the last 2 years railing against every action of the Obama administration and giving credence to every crackpot allegation by birthers/teabaggers/oathers and whatever the hell the patsies of the Party of No come up with. Then when the heat is on the neocon rhetoric, they want to sing Kumbaya with Obama because (for now) he's given them a pass from public scrutiny.

But as Dixie just indulges his self deluded blatherings and lies, he should just check the radio or TV and see his beloved neocon punditry spitting sour grapes and venom in less within 12 -24 hours after the President's speech at the Arizona memorial. Hume, Maulkin, Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, etc.....they just couldn't stay off the "get/hate Obama" agenda like a junkie staying off crack.

Dixie FORGETS that one of keystones of Obama's speech was a call for HONEST discussion.....something the current neocon peanut gallery is obviously encapable of, because all I'm doing is just pointing out the FACTS....and I'm not just whistl'in Dixie on that!

But our Dixie Dunce thinks he's established his half-truth, supposition and conjecture as a fact he can extrapolate from, so he'll continue in that delusional vein. What ever keeps our Dixie Dunce off the streets, folks.

Our President, the community organizer, just check mated the neocon noise machine.


Oh, and for those who don't want to endure more of Dixie's endless stalls and dodges

http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=757801&postcount=1

And just follow the thread for an enjoyable humiliation of Dixie and his compadres.
 
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Originally Posted by Taichiliberal
and what went on in Arkansas was more like a pep rally of sorts to me



Arkansas?:confused:

What went on in Arkansas?

Now that you mention it, has Obama ever been to the Clinton state?

Yeah, yeah....I know......Arizona, NOT Arkansas.
In the immortal words of Maxwell Smart, "Sorry about that, Chief!"
 
Dixie FORGETS that one of keystones of Obama's speech was a call for HONEST discussion.....

Really pinhead? You want to have HONEST discussion? After the past 10 years of lies and distortions and constant spin and dishonesty from the liberal left, you actually want to entertain the idea of HONESTY in your discussions? I seriously doubt you really want to go down that road, since it pretty much destroys the liberal movement, if we are HONEST about things!

How about we start by being HONEST regarding the shootings in Arizona? How about we HONESTLY admit it wasn't because Sarah Palin used a certain graphic on her website, or because of political rhetoric? Then, how about we have an HONEST discussion about this monstrosity of a health care program, and how it can't possibly result in a lower deficit? How about being HONEST regarding the rationing of health care it will require? How about being HONEST about how it robs money from Social Security? How about being HONEST about Social Security insolvency?

You people have not been HONEST about anything since Slick Willie got his cock sucked by a bimbo intern! It's laughable that you NOW want to call for HONESTY! AS IF, you'd even recognize HONESTY if it were slapping you upside your goofy liberal face!
 
Well Dix, I gotta go with TCClarabell on this one.....Obama was very presidential in Arkansas.....he might have sucked in Arizona, and he certainly sucks in Washington, DC....but he hit a home run in Arkansas...
 
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