GOP drops some promises out of the gate
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Why not...the Canadians and Mexicans will protect us....
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and that is where we disagree, hence the wager.
There is no reason for them not to pass $300b in cuts in the House. there is no way the Dems would pass such cuts in the Senate.
It would admittedly be nothing more than a political ploy, but in the eyes of the public how do you think the average American would perceive the issue?
They see the House, led by Reps, cuts $300b (or $100b) and they see the Senate, led by Dems, block those spending cuts. Who do you think they will hold accountable?
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WHAT budget did they cut by 5% Yurt?
The HOUSE budget?
or
the OVERALL FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BUDGET (minus defense)?
Yes, with Mexico protecting us we can be confident heads will roll~
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apparently i have to keep posting this over and over....the house budget
House Votes to Cut Its Budget by 5 Percent
WASHINGTON -- The Republican-controlled House has cut its own budget by 5 percent as a symbolic down payment on a promise to wrestle the budget deficit under control.
Lawmakers say the step shows they are leading by example as they look ahead to fulfilling a promise to return most domestic accounts to the levels in effect before President Obama took office.
But the accounts they cut by 5 percent to produce $35 million in budget savings have gone up by more than double that since the 2008 budget year. The budgets for the office expenses and staff salaries for rank-and-file lawmakers have gone up 14 percent since 2008, while expenses for congressional committees and leadership offices have increased by smaller amounts
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/06/house-votes-cut-budget-percent/
can you explain how 5% = 14%....that is what they promised...yet this first vote they only reduced their budget by 5%, however, in order to truly get back to 2008 levels, they would need to cut 14%.
but i'm just trying to be tough on them....
....how dare i call them out on this, i'm a liberal!!! maybe you can cut the shit and show how i'm wrong....mmmmmkay
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GOOD BOY YURT... you got that right. It was indeed the HOUSE budget. ONE item....hence my asking you about the need to cut every line item back to 2008 levels.
To proclaim that they need to cut it by 14% to get the total budget back in line with 2008 is erroneous as they can make up the difference in making LARGER cuts elsewhere.
Are you starting to catch on now? Or do we need to go even slower for you than we already are?
Poor confused little Yurt. they did not promise to cut EVERY item back to 2008 levels. They promised to cut OVERALL non-defense spending to 2008 levels.
but i'm just trying to be tough on them....
there you go yurt... let that inner spaz out.... do you feel better???
I have shown how you are wrong in this post.
The question is.... are you intelligent enough to actually comprehend it this time???
apparently i have to keep posting this over and over....the house budget
House Votes to Cut Its Budget by 5 Percent
WASHINGTON -- The Republican-controlled House has cut its own budget by 5 percent as a symbolic down payment on a promise to wrestle the budget deficit under control.
Lawmakers say the step shows they are leading by example as they look ahead to fulfilling a promise to return most domestic accounts to the levels in effect before President Obama took office.
But the accounts they cut by 5 percent to produce $35 million in budget savings have gone up by more than double that since the 2008 budget year. The budgets for the office expenses and staff salaries for rank-and-file lawmakers have gone up 14 percent since 2008, while expenses for congressional committees and leadership offices have increased by smaller amounts
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/06/house-votes-cut-budget-percent/
can you explain how 5% = 14%....that is what they promised...yet this first vote they only reduced their budget by 5%, however, in order to truly get back to 2008 levels, they would need to cut 14%.
but i'm just trying to be tough on them....
Considering the House budget is a very small portion of the non-defense discretionary budget, they could easily make up for the failure to cut the House budget to 2008 levels elsewhere. They won't, of course, but they could.
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come on now.... why do you have to pick on Yurt... surely he was going to finally come to that conclusion on his own. He didn't need your help. Quit picking on the poor yurtle.
Now... do you have any thoughts on the wager?
Also, after reading my reasoning for why they will make the cuts in House (of at least $100b) why do you think they won't? Just a gut call? or something more?
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i'll guess we will see...and apparently these aides, who support what i'm saying, are lying....or a false aides....
Read more: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11005/1115642-84.stm#ixzz1AIhZHbc1
I haven't thought about it. We could do a signature/avatar wager. Winner picks the loser's signature and avatar for one month. Your thoughts?
And I think they won't for three reasons. One, they're already crawfishin'. Two, in order to make the cuts as deep they've want to make will require cuts to popular programs. There's little reason to pass cuts to popular programs that they will not become law and will only be supported by people voting Republican anyway and that moderates may find objectionable. Third, they haven't actually come up with any real ideas as to what specifically to cut from what I've seen.
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so no response to post 70....interesting
Is there something in there that warrants a response? If so, please tell me what it is because I don't see it.
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On Tuesday, aides to Mr. Ryan and Mr. Boehner blamed Democrats' failure to pass the regular appropriations bills for fiscal year 2011 for forcing Republicans to reduce their goal to perhaps $50 billion to $60 billion