American wars and why they are fought

USFREEDOM911 said:
WOW; that was a real cutting response.
How ever will I live it down.

OK, I'm over your asininity and can now continue.

If you're that worried, you should dig a really deep hole, put in concreate walls and a very think rood, stock it, crawl in, close the door, and weld the door shut from the inside.
For a few extra bucks, maybe you can find someone to dump a truck full of dirt on the top and really hide from reality.
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So are you officially denying that war is profitable for many vendors?
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
WOW; that was a real cutting response.
How ever will I live it down.

OK, I'm over your asininity and can now continue.

If you're that worried, you should dig a really deep hole, put in concreate walls and a very think rood, stock it, crawl in, close the door, and weld the door shut from the inside.
For a few extra bucks, maybe you can find someone to dump a truck full of dirt on the top and really hide from reality.
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Isn't that what Americans were doing? Building nuclear shelters?(LOL!!!) What a joke the cold war was. They have enough nuclear weapons to destroy this planet 100 times over but they still keep making them. Why? It makes money!Its not like either side would ever use them on each other. That would take more then a handful of madmen to pull that off.

They made a killing off that arms race.

When their weapons become out dated, they just sell it to lessor nations(so they can have more weapons to kill themselves), or they wage wars, in the name of Freedumb(note sarcasm).
 
wiseones2cents said:
Isn't that what Americans were doing? Building nuclear shelters?(LOL!!!) What a joke the cold war was. They have enough nuclear weapons to destroy this planet 100 times over but they still keep making them. Why? It makes money!Its not like either side would ever use them on each other. That would take more then a handful of madmen to pull that off.

They made a killing off that arms race.

When their weapons become out dated, they just sell it to lessor nations(so they can have more weapons to kill themselves), or they wage wars, in the name of Freedumb(note sarcasm).
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I never said anything about nuclear shelters and I've noticed that is obvious you fear freedom and that's why you find it necessary to make the "play on words" game.
Go ahead, say it.
FREEDOM
No one's going to laugh at you.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I never said anything about nuclear shelters and I've noticed that is obvious you fear freedom and that's why you find it necessary to make the "play on words" game.
Go ahead, say it.
FREEDOM
No one's going to laugh at you.
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You said"
If you're that worried, you should dig a really deep hole, put in concreate walls and a very think rood, stock it, crawl in, close the door, and weld the door shut from the inside."

To me your describing Americans in their nuclear shelters.lol Man the capitalists really know how to prey on their fear and stupidity. I even hear there is an agency that takes care of pets when you are raptured into heaven. And they charge top dollar! ROTFLMAO!!!!!

As far as America's freedom?

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 
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wiseones2cents said:
You said"
If you're that worried, you should dig a really deep hole, put in concreate walls and a very think rood, stock it, crawl in, close the door, and weld the door shut from the inside."

To me your describing Americans in their nuclear shelters.lol Man the capitalists really know how to prey on their fear and stupidity. I even hear there is an agency that takes care of pets when you are raptured into heaven. And they charge top dollar! ROTFLMAO!!!!!

As far as America's freedom?

None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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Just because that's the way you see it, through your narrow view point, doesn't mean that your definition is correct.
As to the rest of your convoluted "logic", it is obvious that it too is based on the view points that are only clear to you and your therapist.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Just because that's the way you see it, through your narrow view point, doesn't mean that your definition is correct.
As to the rest of your convoluted "logic", it is obvious that it too is based on the view points that are only clear to you and your therapist.
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I think alot of people are starting to realize this. Americans all got rich on debt, though they left the bill to the younger generation and the younger generation is catching on......
 
AssHatZombie said:
No. SOme americans got rich on debt. Most of us are living paycheck to paycheck.
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Many Americans became rich defrauding this system of credit, when the so called American dream was achievable(and leaving the bill to the younger generations). Today the American dream is all but dead.....

Today as a result of the debt they incurred? The cost of living is so high, people are living pay check to pay check. If you think you are free? Try quitting or losing your job and you will see how free you really are. You'll be thrown out on the street.

Most people will die in debt. That doesn't sound like freedom to me.........
 
wiseones2cents said:
Many Americans became rich defrauding this system of credit, when the so called American dream was achievable(and leaving the bill to the younger generations). Today the American dream is all but dead.....

Today as a result of the debt they incurred? The cost of living is so high, people are living pay check to pay check. If you think you are free? Try quitting or losing your job and you will see how free you really are. You'll be thrown out on the street.

Most people will die in debt. That doesn't sound like freedom to me.........
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But you were say americans are all rich from debt... It's just a few. Most are living paycheck to paycheck. Im just saying, skinny your broad brush a bit. Most americans are victims of the internationalist fascist elite.
 
AssHatZombie said:
But you were say americans are all rich from debt... It's just a few. Most are living paycheck to paycheck. Im just saying, skinny your broad brush a bit. Most americans are victims of the internationalist fascist elite.
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I used the word "GOT" (as in past tense) rich.

Who do you think are the biggest supporters of capitalism? Most of these old folks that made a killing off the system of credit and are living comfortably today.

The ones that didn't profit and speak highly of capitalism are just too dumb to see what is going on today.
 
wiseones2cents said:
I used the word "GOT" (as in past tense) rich.

Who do you think are the biggest supporters of capitalism? Most of these old folks that made a killing off the system of credit and are living comfortably today.

The ones that didn't profit and speak highly of capitalism are just too dumb to see what is going on today.
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You're still all out of control, grasping about wildly in a sea of ideas of which you understand very little.
 
wiseones2cents said:
I used the word "GOT" (as in past tense) rich.

Who do you think are the biggest supporters of capitalism? Most of these old folks that made a killing off the system of credit and are living comfortably today.

The ones that didn't profit and speak highly of capitalism are just too dumb to see what is going on today.
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and what system besides capitalism do you see as offering people wealth?

communism? socialism? feudalism? what?

capitalism is essentially a mercantile system of government...for a long time other systems of government were in place, they all eventually failed....so the merchants came to power...and it has yet to be determined if such a system will fail
 
Yurt said:
and what system besides capitalism do you see as offering people wealth?

communism? socialism? feudalism? what?

capitalism is essentially a mercantile system of government...for a long time other systems of government were in place, they all eventually failed....so the merchants came to power...and it has yet to be determined if such a system will fail
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It all comes down to what you define as wealth. Able to make billions of dollars over charging customers? In a socialist system, there would be a great degree of wealth AND stability. And MUCH less poor.

Now when I speak about socialism. I do not speak of the form of Socialism that has been taught in American schools. I have already explained my socialism.

Has a truly socialist economy been introduced? Communism fell because it was left in debt after both world wars and couldn't pay its bills(plus the economy was rigged for war profiteering). The Americans economy survived because war was never waged on its soil.

It is impossible for true socialism to fail.
 
wiseones2cents said:
It all comes down to what you define as wealth. Able to make billions of dollars over charging customers? In a socialist system, there would be a great degree of wealth AND stability. And MUCH less poor.

Now when I speak about socialism. I do not speak of the form of Socialism that has been taught in American schools. I have already explained my socialism.

Has a truly socialist economy been introduced? Communism fell because it was left in debt after both world wars and couldn't pay its bills(plus the economy was rigged for war profiteering). The Americans economy survived because war was never waged on its soil.

It is impossible for true socialism to fail.
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Here is my discussion with USFREEDUMB

Remember. All the profits do not go to the Elites, but go towards social services like health care and subsidizing things like food and energy.

OK. We have a socialist government. This government controls everything, from health care, to electricity, to water, to gas, to oil, to auto industry, to airlines, to basically everything, the only thing that wouldn't be controlled is opposition news media to keep them straight.

All new emerging businesses will be given consideration and if they are popular, they proceed, giving the entrepreneur bonuses(for 10 years or so).(might I add that government would take care of all starting costs and overhead)

Then we would have a government website, showing all the numbers of the companies(available to the public) and where all the money is going to and how it is being spent.(The SEC has already been corrupted).

If there is a problem found in the way any of the businesses are run? The people will bring it up to their attention, and if they cannot provide a reasonable explanation? Be forced to fix it.

Corporations do not answer to anyone. Government does.

They still answer to their superiors. And unlike in a capitalist country? Their jobs are guaranteed till they die. Not like in America, you lose your job and lose everything.......

If someone is lazy, they can be voted out of the company and given a lesser job(and lesser pay).

This notion that everyone receives the same pay, is not necessarily a Socialist concept. It is a misconceived concept, generated by the capitalists. That's what unions do.

You are also allowed to own a home in a socialist society.

Do you not see? It would eliminate middle men(right there your saving a bundle), bankruptcies,insurance costs, start up costs, Interest costs, stock holders, over paid CEOs, advertising/marketing, Owners, taxes,(all of which are passed down to the consumer)reduce utillity costs, like shipping, fuel, maintenance, electricity, ect.. all these middle men would be removed which means cheaper overhead.

Yes a lot of people would be out of a job, but at least they are not living off the backs of the consumers!

If ran properly, alternate jobs could be generated. And the ones with no jobs, could easily afford to live on a small allowance. And many people would be able to retire at an early age, giving more people job opportunities.

As long as the population grows. Demand will increase and so will jobs.
 
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