The best justice MONEY CAN BUY!

zappasguitar

Well-known member
So, the future is here and it includes a get out of jail free card if you are rich...



Martin Erzinger allegedly struck a cyclist with his vehicle. He will not face criminal charges due to the district attorney's concern for Erzinger's career.


A Morgan Stanley wealth manager will not face felony charges for a hit-and-run because Colorado prosecutors don't want him to lose his job.

Martin Joel Erzinger, who manages more than $1 billion in assets for Morgan Stanley in Denver, is being accused only of a misdemeanor for allegedly driving his Mercedes into a cyclist and then fleeing the scene, Colorado's Vail Daily reports. The victim, Dr. Steven Milo, whom Erzinger allegedly hit in July, suffered spinal cord injuries, bleeding from his brain and, according to his lawyer Harold Haddon, "lifetime pain."

But District Attorney Mark Hurlbert says it wouldn't be wise to prosecute Erzinger -- doing so might hurt his source of income. Here's Vail Daily:

"Felony convictions have some pretty serious job implications for someone in Mr. Erzinger's profession, and that entered into it," Hurlbert said. "When you're talking about restitution, you don't want to take away his ability to pay."

"We have talked with Mr. Haddon and we had their objections, but ultimately it's our call," Hurlbert said.

"Mr. Erzinger struck me, fled and left me for dead on the highway," Milo wrote. "Neither his financial prominence nor my financial situation should be factors in your prosecution of this case."


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/08/martin-erzinger-morgan-stanley-hit-and-run-_n_780294.html
 
District Attorney Mark Hurlbert has been prosecuting in the Fifth Judicial District for thirteen years.

As an experienced prosecutor, Mark knows it is important not to simply secure convictions, but to seek justice. He makes victims a priority and is dedicated to providing victims a strong voice in the justice system. Mark has made it a priority for the District Attorney's Office in the effective prosecution of sexual assault cases.

There are 11 attorneys and 36 staff working under Mark's leadership. They prosecute criminals, work on behalf of victims, teach public school students about the law, promote crime prevention, and many other things that all relate to the overall mission of the Fifth Judicial District, District Attorney's Office: to do justice.


----------------------------------------------------------------

Here's what I don't understand. We all learn right from wrong at an early age. Yet it is conservatives who seem to find a reason to justify someone that does something wrong or unethical simply because they are 'successful' or rich. Why is that?
 
Last edited:
District Attorney Mark Hurlbert has been prosecuting in the Fifth Judicial District for thirteen years.

As an experienced prosecutor, Mark knows it is important not to simply secure convictions, but to seek justice. He makes victims a priority and is dedicated to providing victims a strong voice in the justice system. Mark has made it a priority for the District Attorney's Office in the effective prosecution of sexual assault cases.

There are 11 attorneys and 36 staff working under Mark's leadership. They prosecute criminals, work on behalf of victims, teach public school students about the law, promote crime prevention, and many other things that all relate to the overall mission of the Fifth Judicial District, District Attorney's Office: to do justice.

During his time in the Fifth Judicial District, Mark has served on such varied boards as the Clear Creek County Advocates Board of Directors, the Family and Intercultural Resource Center Board of Directors and the C.A.R.E. Counsel. He currently serves on Summit Prevention Alliance, Community Corrections Board, is the Immediate Past President of the Colorado District Attorney's Counsel and is a member of Rotary. He also has taught classes on the prosecution of sexual assault throughout the country. Mark and his wife, Cathy, have two children, Jack and Cydney.
----------------------------------------------------------------

Here's what I don't understand. We all learn right from wrong at an early age. Yet it is conservatives who seem to find a reason to justify someone that does something wrong or unethical simply because they are 'successful' or rich. Why is that?

you're a dishonest hack....no one justified anything

care to try again...
 
you're a dishonest hack....no one justified anything

care to try again...

You have either a reading or a comprehension problem; which is it?

But District Attorney Mark Hurlbert says it wouldn't be wise to prosecute Erzinger -- doing so might hurt his source of income.
 
You have either a reading or a comprehension problem; which is it?

But District Attorney Mark Hurlbert says it wouldn't be wise to prosecute Erzinger -- doing so might hurt his source of income.

wow...open your mouth and prove you're a fool....

he didn't JUSTIFY anything....giving a lesser punishment is not justifying the crime....he weighed the options, and felt the misdemeanor would serve the interests of justice better as he could pay more restitution

he did not justify the act
 
Logo_VailDaily.jpg


EAGLE, Colorado — A financial manager for wealthy clients will not face felony charges for a hit-and-run because it could jeopardize his job, prosecutors said Thursday.

Martin Joel Erzinger, 52, faces two misdemeanor traffic charges stemming from a July 3 incident when he allegedly hit bicyclist Dr. Steven Milo from behind then sped away, according to court documents.

Milo and his attorney, Harold Haddon, are livid about the prosecution's decision to drop the felony charge.

Erzinger allegedly veered onto the side of the road and hit Milo from behind. Milo was thrown to the pavement, while Erzinger struck a culvert and kept driving, according to court documents.

Erzinger drove all the way through Avon, the town's roundabouts, under I-70 and stopped in the Pizza Hut parking lot where he called the Mercedes auto assistance service to report damage to his vehicle, and asked that his car be towed, records show. He did not ask for law enforcement assistance, according to court records.

Erzinger told police he was unaware he had hit Milo, court documents say.

http://www.vaildaily.com/article/20101104/NEWS/101109939/1078&ParentProfile=1062
 
wow...open your mouth and prove you're a fool....

he didn't JUSTIFY anything....giving a lesser punishment is not justifying the crime....he weighed the options, and felt the misdemeanor would serve the interests of justice better as he could pay more restitution

he did not justify the act

Right...he's not justifying anything...he's flat out making excuses for a decision he knows is going to be WILDLY unpopular with anyone not a member of the Vailluminati!


So, if the guy driving the car had been a pizza delivery guy then he deserves to be locked up for a longer stretch because he's not as "financially viable" at that particular moment in time.

What about the diminished financial viability of the poor guy that idiot ran down and left to die?
 
Right...he's not justifying anything...he's flat out making excuses for a decision he knows is going to be WILDLY unpopular with anyone not a member of the Vailluminati!


So, if the guy driving the car had been a pizza delivery guy then he deserves to be locked up for a longer stretch because he's not as "financially viable" at that particular moment in time.

What about the diminished financial viability of the poor guy that idiot ran down and left to die?

he did not justify the idiots actions....

lie all you want, but it doesn't change facts
 
Here's what I don't understand. We all learn right from wrong at an early age. Yet it is conservatives who seem to find a reason to justify someone that does something wrong or unethical simply because they are 'successful' or rich. Why is that?

wow...open your mouth and prove you're a fool....

he didn't JUSTIFY anything....giving a lesser punishment is not justifying the crime....he weighed the options, and felt the misdemeanor would serve the interests of justice better as he could pay more restitution

he did not justify the act

We didn't have to wait very long for some right winger to prove me right...LOL!
 
he did not justify the idiots actions....

lie all you want, but it doesn't change facts

Just a quick question...

Is it against the law if a car hits a bike and it's rider, knocks the rider off the bike and to the ground and then leaves the scene of the accident?

Is that against the law?
 
You have either a reading or a comprehension problem; which is it?

But District Attorney Mark Hurlbert says it wouldn't be wise to prosecute Erzinger -- doing so might hurt his source of income.
Unless he is the District Attorney then your statement was false. Nobody here has attempted to justify anything whether or not they are "conservative". So far Yurt has simply pointed out to you attempting to excuse yourself for an action of employment isn't the same thing as justifying another's actions.
 
wow...you're more delusional than i thought

you have yet to show where anyone justified anything.....

Are you really THAT dense? The DA is JUSTIFYING a lesser charge that calls for a felony charge. The guy hit a cyclist, left the scene and didn't notify authorities. They call that HIT & RUN.

If ability to pay restitution were even a consideration, then NO ONE who is ordered to pay it would serve jail time.

WTF do you need to see what's going on here, someone to whack you in the forehead with a tack hammer?
 
Unless he is the District Attorney then your statement was false. Nobody here has attempted to justify anything.

There is this guy that I used to work with, many years ago, and after I moved on to another job, I found out that he was driving drunk one night and ran into someone.
Seems like the other car had broken down and the husband was pushing it, while the wife steered it.
The guy I knew ran right into the back of the car and ended up hurting the husband so bad, that they had to amputate both legs.
At the trial, both the husband and wife asked that the other guy not be sent to prison; because if he went to jail, they probably would never be able to collect on the judgement that they had won.

As far as I know; the guy is still out, working, and paying off a judgement of over a million dollars.
In his case, I have to agree. If he would have gone to prison, the husband would never have been able to get any payments; because he sure isn't going to be earning a lot of money working for the State and after getting out, his chances of finding a job, especially in this economy, would be really tough.

To bad they couldn't have come up with a better result; because the guy was always a jerk and an asshole.
 
Just a quick question...

Is it against the law if a car hits a bike and it's rider, knocks the rider off the bike and to the ground and then leaves the scene of the accident?

Is that against the law?

dumb question....but the answer is...it is against the law

answer me this:

do DA's hand out misdemeanors for not breaking the law?
 
Are you really THAT dense? The DA is JUSTIFYING a lesser charge that calls for a felony charge. The guy hit a cyclist, left the scene and didn't notify authorities. They call that HIT & RUN.

If ability to pay restitution were even a consideration, then NO ONE who is ordered to pay it would serve jail time.

WTF do you need to see what's going on here, someone to whack you in the forehead with a tack hammer?

Here's an alternate scenario: a pizza delivery guy runs down the bicycle riding Hedge Fund manager and flees the scene.

When authorities catch up with the pizza delivery guy WILL HE OR WILL HE NOT be charged with felony fleeing the scene.


But because this guy is so well connected and makes such good money, he isn't subject to the same laws us "regular folk" are.
 
Are you really THAT dense? The DA is JUSTIFYING a lesser charge that calls for a felony charge. The guy hit a cyclist, left the scene and didn't notify authorities. They call that HIT & RUN.

If ability to pay restitution were even a consideration, then NO ONE who is ordered to pay it would serve jail time.

WTF do you need to see what's going on here, someone to whack you in the forehead with a tack hammer?

cute...when you finally realize you're wrong...CHANGE your stance...unfortunately for you your words are still there in black and white:

Yet it is conservatives who seem to find a reason to justify someone that does something wrong

simply stated....no one has justified the moron's actions...but you staphagetard ignorantly cling to your false notions
 
Back
Top