San Francisco bans Happy Meals

Bfgrn said:
I hope someone else in your family is teaching the kids to read and write.

A socialist would be someone who wants to pass their costs onto others. Childhood obesity and obesity in general does that. It cost EVERYONE more money in insurance premiums. It costs employers in lost work days. Children treated for obesity are roughly three times more expensive for the health care system than children of normal weight.

So you really don't have a problem with socialism.
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If one starts hating on fat people that means they are not socialist then?
 
Bfgrn said:
I hope someone else in your family is teaching the kids to read and write.

A socialist would be someone who wants to pass their costs onto others. Childhood obesity and obesity in general does that. It cost EVERYONE more money in insurance premiums. It costs employers in lost work days. Children treated for obesity are roughly three times more expensive for the health care system than children of normal weight.

So you really don't have a problem with socialism.
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I see you now have two jobs.
1 - you want to control everyone else's life
and
2 - you have been hired as the spelling police.

Don't be ashamed of your nanny state - socialists belief's.
They define who you are and you should embrace them.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
I see you now have two jobs.
1 - you want to control everyone else's life
and
2 - you have been hired as the spelling police.

Don't be ashamed of your nanny state - socialists belief's.
They define who you are and you should embrace them.
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Interesting...I'm a liberal that has been around since Harry Truman was in the White House. What I have witnessed in America is the construction of the biggest nanny state in history, but not by liberals, by conservatives. I've lived through a good portion of the liberal era that started with the New Deal and ended with the Great Society. We led the world in education, medical breakthroughs and saw the individual success of millions of citizens. It was an era with huge gains in economic growth and shared wealth, fantastic successes in technology, vast expansion of citizen freedoms and liberties and the growth of a middle class that defined this country and made America the 'city on the hill', the envy of the world.

That era ended at the end of the 1960's and the conservative era began. It has continued ever since. It has been a freedoms and liberties nightmare. Conservatives built a society that has become a negative mirror image of the liberal era. We once led the world in education, now we are way down the list. BUT, take heart (even though you don't have one), America is still number #1 by a huge margin in one category. We now lead the world in incarcerating human beings.

The Conservative 'Nanny State'

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USFREEDOM911 said:
Not just Mickey D's; but this should also be good for that Jack in the Box character.
I wonder who would get the blame if McD and Jack would close all their franchises in California and all those workers would no longer have a job?
Warehouses would have less to store, so they wouldn't need as many workers.
Truck drivers would have less to deliver, so there's no need for so many trucks.
etc
etc
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Yes, the right wing sky is falling polarized mantra.

By offering children the EXACT SAME meal, but removing one small device that is designed to entice, herd and CONTROL that child's mind and decision it is the END OF AMERICA as we know it!!!
 
WinterBorn said:
The point is not the toy. The point is parents letting their kids run things.

Does anyone actually think removing the toy from a happy meal will actually have an effect on obesity? Really?

The toy is a hook for the kids. But the parents are the ones who drive to McDonalds, order the food, and pay for it.

This is just another example of nannyism and the loss of freedoms.
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Bullshit. There's no difference between a happy meal toy and Joe Camel. Preserving public health and regulationg the limits by which corporations can market harmful products is a legitimate function of our government and always has been.
 
only a complete moron would call the penal system a conservative nanny state....

such a statement shows a severe lack of intelligence
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
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Again, that's bullshit. Just because the public wants government to perform its function of regulationg commerce is in no way nannyism. In fact the opposite is true. You're position is corporatism. Let the corporations do what they want and the public be damned!
 
Yurt said:
you're a fascist

seriously
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Telling corporations we dont' want them poisoing people, particularly children, with high trans/saturated fat foods and high sugar drinks is fascism? Well maybe in your book, but here in reality it's called "public health" and it's a legitimate role of government. The true fascist are the corporatist, like you, who want to protect corporations right to make a buck at the publics expense.
 
Yurt said:
saved

mott proves again what a hack he is....now proper regulation of corporations is not allowing them to offer a toy with meals

lmao...
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Hey what the fuck. You're right. Why not get rid of all this nannyism, speaking of, I have a great idea. Since were going to get rid of all these socialist nanny laws lets create these bottles of cartoon characters and we'll attach real fun sippy straws and toys to the bottles and we'll fill them with Vodka and sell them in vending machines at the local Junior High! I bet we can make a fortune!!
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Telling corporations we dont' want them poisoing people, particularly children, with high trans/saturated fat foods and high sugar drinks is fascism? Well maybe in your book, but here in reality it's called "public health" and it's a legitimate role of government. The true fascist are the corporatist, like you, who want to protect corporations right to make a buck at the publics expense.
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are you serious? you think its just corporations who make foods that are not always healthy for children? wow...

it doesn't matter if its corporations or a mom and pop diner, the government has no business telling someone they can't serve a freakin toy with a meal...its beyond nonsense....as if mcdonalds would sell the toy with a fat free salad with spinich and walnuts and gorgonzala cheese with red whine vinaigrette and the salads would become an instant hit...

amazed at how dense you are and how much you pray at the alter of the governmnet
 
Mott the Hoople said:
Hey what the fuck. You're right. Why not get rid of all this nannyism, speaking of, I have a great idea. Since were going to get rid of all these socialist nanny laws lets create these bottles of cartoon characters and we'll attach real fun sippy straws and toys to the bottles and we'll fill them with Vodka and sell them in vending machines at the local Junior High! I bet we can make a fortune!!
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:palm:

fries and hamburgers are not illegal for kids you moron

do work on your analogies, because you're batting .00
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
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Have you actually read the current peer reviewed literature on the consequences of the mass marketing of foods high in saturated and trans fats or drinks loaded with high levels of sweetners like refined sugar and high fructose corn syrup? Are you even remotely aware of the vast public health problems they present due to obesity, diabetes, high blood pressure, heart disease?
Do you realize that fast food companies cost us billions of dollars in the cost of treating preventable disease and that many thousands of people die each year from these preventable diseases? Are you aware that those numbers rival those who die from nicotene addiction and alcohol abuse? Are you aware that nicotene and alcohol products are highly regulated, including the marketing methodologies used to sell those products for those very reasons?

You may not care about the public health threat represented by the fast food industry with their mass media marketing but a vast number of us who are aware of the consequences of consuming these products are and we do not want them marketed towards our children and it is unquestionably a legitimate function of our government to protect the publics health by regulating how these unhealthy and potentially dangerous products are marketed to our children.
 
WinterBorn said:
And why just ban the toy? The toy is not making kids fat. The FOOD is makingthem fat. It is also making adults fat. If you want to use the bullshit logic "fat kids cost us money" routine, then use it to get to the actual problem.

The reason this is done is because supporters can say "We want to help the children". Bullshit. They want to gain control of another facet of our life and stick it to another huge corporation.
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For the same damned reason they forbade Camel brand cigerettes from using "Joe Cool" as a marketing gimick to help them addict young people to the most dangerous and deadly drug known to man.

Considering the health consequences they should force McD's to place a warning lable on Happy Meals not unlike they have to do with tobacco and alcohol products.
 
Duplicity and Guile said:
I don't see why we don't go further and ban the McDonalds mascot. Clearly a clown is trying to attract children. And don't even get me started on the bright happy colors.
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That's an excellent point. They probably should. Ronald McDonald has probably resulted in the deaths of more people then Joe Camel did. Considering what we know now about the dangers of these products, products which if used as intended that have the same kind of long term health consequences as tobacco and alcohol, maybe they should consider doing that. That and they should be forced to disclose the dangers and risk of consuming their products on a habitual basis.
 
USFREEDOM911 said:
Next thing will be a total banning of cigarettes, cigars, snuff, chew, and any other tobacco products; seeing as how those items cause problems.
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Well no shit dillrod! Cigerettes are a delivery system for an acutely toxic poison and highly addictive drug called nicotene, the most dangerous drug known to man. The drug that kills about 250,000 people a year. We have made drugs far less dangrous, such as cocain and heroine, illegal, why shouldn't we do so with the worlds most dangerous, addictive and deadly drug?
 
Yurt said:
:palm:

fries and hamburgers are not illegal for kids you moron

do work on your analogies, because you're batting .00
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I'm a moron. Only a freaken lawyer can say that. Look Mr. Cognitively Impaired. A poison is a fucken poison is a poison whether it is illegal or not and the laws of nature aint interested in the laws of lawyers and if the government decides to regulate dangerous consumer products, such as fast foods, which by the way they have done for more then a century, at the publics request, then that is a legitimate role of government. Sorry if you can't make a buck off that but life's a bitch dude.
 
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