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Darla said:
itten transcript. They believe the woman because 99 out of a 100 times she’s telling the truth, and they know it. I had a he-said she-said with a old perv (no offense) about five years ago. A man who used to walk his dog right under my bedroom window all of the time, and then one day he stopped me along the walk way and told me he wanted to pay me money to see me with my clothes off.
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Well it's about god damn time this thread took a turn for the BETTER!

Darla's trotting out that old story of the old man and his Guide Dog again!


HARDY-HAR-HAR-HAR-HARRRRR!!!​
 
Darla said:
Firstly, you state that it "does not sound like that of a traumatized person..." however, it doesn't sound like anything because this is a written transcript.

You don't know what she "sounded" like. Emotion and tone are notoriously difficult to discern through the written word.
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Darla, Darla, Darla. :palm:

I don't know whether you're just being silly or you're suffering from a most unfortunate mental disability. If the latter I truly feel sorry for you because if you find it "notoriously difficult" to discern emotion and tone through the written word then that means you are incapable of reading/appreciating a novel.

Far more important is your assumption that the police were testing the victim.....You have no reason to believe this to be the case.
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I explained that already re: 911 calls and I have every reason to believe that to be the case. How often do the Police ask rape victims to call the rapist from the Police station?

You like to think of yourself as an expert on these things. Suppose you tell us how often you have heard of that happening.

As for the rest of your rant, a poor one at that, I'll offer two observations.

First, I'm sure if the perv who propositioned you was aware of the baggage you carry he would have crossed the street to avoid you.

Second, as for your comment,
You apple, are a particularly nasty kind of sexist, because you pretend to put women on a pedestal
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you are confusing my thinking highly of someone as putting them on a pedestal.

I do not put anyone on a pedestal although I do think highly of ladies, in general and you, Darla, are no lady.


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Darla said:
Firstly, you state that it "does not sound like that of a traumatized person..." however, it doesn't sound like anything because this is a written transcript.

You don't know what she "sounded" like. Emotion and tone are notoriously difficult to discern through the written word. We all know this from our experiences with email misunderstandings, and indeed, even misunderstandings which routinely occur on boards like this one. What we know about this conversation was that the police asked her to call him and get him to admit to the rape. And he did.

Far more important is your assumption that the police were testing the victim.

“The Police probably wanted to hear what she would say and how she would react.”

You have no reason to believe this to be the case. You are projecting your own knee-jerk skeptism of women’s experiences onto the police, and you don’t know what you’re talking about. My own personal experience with detectives is that they believe the woman. They believe the woman because 99 out of a 100 times she’s telling the truth, and they know it. I had a he-said she-said with a old perv (no offense) about five years ago. A man who used to walk his dog right under my bedroom window all of the time, and then one day he stopped me along the walk way and told me he wanted to pay me money to see me with my clothes off. I called the police and a detective came out and he went to the man’s door and the man told him I was making it up. I was standing right outside his fence and could hear it. I had told the detective I didn’t want to press charges (I felt terrible for the perv’s poor wife and was loathe to further humiliate her), but I wanted him to stay away from me. The detective told him to shut the fuck up, just like that. He said, she’s not making it up and if she wanted me to, I’d arrest you right now. Now shut up and stay the f away from her, from her windows, and keep your dog away from her too. And that was not my first, but rather, my second experience with detectives and this category of offense. During both occasions they knew who the problem was.

Cops may be a lot of things, but they deal with sex assault victims, rape apologists like you (and you are one and you have hit every trope of a class A rape apologist in your smarmy answers), and scummy offenders all of the time. They know who to believe.

They wanted a confession and they got one.

Lastly, and this is very important, you are painting victims of sex crimes with a brush broadened by dramatic reenactments. Women react to sex crimes very differently. Much like men react to a violent crimes committed against their persons differently. Women and men. Both human. All individuals.

There is no script.

In the blogosphere, there are many sites which deal with women’s issues, including of course, sex assault. On some of these sites, they have something called trigger warnings. Some rape victims prefer to be warned if a particular story they are linking to includes descriptions of a sex assault.
However, some sites, many sites, do not use trigger warnings, and these sites are preferred by many victims of sex assault because they feel that they are being infantilized at the trigger sites. Many women who have been sexually assaulted do not like and take great offense at being treated like broken dolls.

They don’t have to perform for you like a monkey. Cry, and shake, and cringe, to gain your sympathy so that maybe you’ll choose to “believe” them. Play the little victim for me sweetie, and if I buy it, I’ll be on your side. No one needs you on their side, this is why we have victim and women’s advocates in this country.

No other victim of violent crime needs to behave in such a manner for you and society to judge. And neither do women.

You apple, are a particularly nasty kind of sexist, because you pretend to put women on a pedestal. You want them to have freedom. Freedom to “show their beauty”. But in fact I know of no man on this board who objectifies women more than you do, and can probably only name two who objectify them as much as you.

Women are not more than human. Women are not less than human. And either position reeks. And so do you.
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apple0154 said:
Darla, Darla, Darla. :palm:

I don't know whether you're just being silly or you're suffering from a most unfortunate mental disability. If the latter I truly feel sorry for you because if you find it "notoriously difficult" to discern emotion and tone through the written word then that means you are incapable of reading/appreciating a novel. No, I am being factual. You cannot discern her emotional state from a written transcript of a phone call the police asked her to make. That's just a fact.

I explained that already re: 911 calls and I have every reason to believe that to be the case. How often do the Police ask rape victims to call the rapist from the Police station? You explained nothing. The police asked her to call the suspect and try to get a confession. He confessed. It worked. You came on here with some Dear Penthouse scenerio about a woman walking into a police station to file a false rape report, goad them into asking her to call the phony suspect, and get him to admit to a rape which never occurred as part of some weirdo role-playing fantasy. You are out of your mind. None of this makes any sense to anyone but you. That's because you are a sexual deviant and a perv.

You like to think of yourself as an expert on these things. Suppose you tell us how often you have heard of that happening. I don't know how often it happens and neither do you. It doesn't matter. This is a red herring. It happened here. THe police asked her to try and get a recorded confession right in front of them, and she got it. The rapist admitted to the rape. This makes you a rape apologist.


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It's been established that we have two rape apologists on this thread; Yurt and Apple.

You hate women Apple, you're just better at disguising it than an asshat type. And you're a rape apologist.

Done.
 
Hell, I get discomforted whenever Watermark and Grind make a poll about the merits of humour concerning rape, so at least having a serious discussion, even if people are pissing you off, ought to be some improvement for you, Darla. I don't think that Yurt and Apple are trying to come accross as you perceive them.
 
Darla said:
It's been established that we have two rape apologists on this thread; Yurt and Apple.

You hate women Apple, you're just better at disguising it than an asshat type. And you're a rape apologist.

Done.
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LOL...how dare anyone discuss this case and point out the many flaws in ASSuming this guy is 100% guilty....yeah...apple and i love rapists and we love apologizing for them

man, you guys seriously look pathetic, you can't handle anyone with a different POV so you insult them and lie about their stances

you, sf and onceler are made for each other
 
Darla said:
It's been established that we have two rape apologists on this thread; Yurt and Apple.

You hate women Apple, you're just better at disguising it than an asshat type. And you're a rape apologist.

Done.
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Well there ya go Apple. You've been sent to your room and put to bed!

G'night!!!

Done. :lmao:
 
Threedee said:
Hell, I get discomforted whenever Watermark and Grind make a poll about the merits of humour concerning rape, so at least having a serious discussion, even if people are pissing you off, ought to be some improvement for you, Darla. I don't think that Yurt and Apple are trying to come accross as you perceive them.
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her and SF have nothing but smears...its pretty sad...i expect it from darla, but not SF
 
Yurt said:
LOL...how dare anyone discuss this case and point out the many flaws in ASSuming this guy is 100% guilty....yeah...apple and i love rapists and we love apologizing for them

man, you guys seriously look pathetic, you can't handle anyone with a different POV so you insult them and lie about their stances

you, sf and onceler are made for each other
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Oh a menage et trois! Would that be considered a "conference call"?
 
Yurt said:
LOL...how dare anyone discuss this case and point out the many flaws in ASSuming this guy is 100% guilty....yeah...apple and i love rapists and we love apologizing for them

man, you guys seriously look pathetic, you can't handle anyone with a different POV so you insult them and lie about their stances

you, sf and onceler are made for each other
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LOL

"someone can't be a rapist unless a court says they are"

Great POV. Biggest idiot here, bar none.

As for you, Apple - the "tone of voice & emotion" argument is completely bogus. How ridiculous to assume that every rape victim will display some sort of necessary hysterics or tears to "verify" they've been raped....
 
Yurt said:
her and SF have nothing but smears...its pretty sad...i expect it from darla, but not SF
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Hey, idiot - as I recall, about 500 posts ago, you called this thread pointless except for it being a "lovefest" between Darla & me.

"Mr. issues" - what a predictable lunatic you are.
 
Onceler said:
LOL

"someone can't be a rapist unless a court says they are"

Great POV. Biggest idiot here, bar none.

As for you, Apple - the "tone of voice & emotion" argument is completely bogus. How ridiculous to assume that every rape victim will display some sort of necessary hysterics or tears to "verify" they've been raped....
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odd....i've said they can....do i really need to post that post again...?

love the lies little buddy
 
Onceler said:
Hey, idiot - as I recall, about 500 posts ago, you called this thread pointless except for it being a "lovefest" between Darla & me.

"Mr. issues" - what a predictable lunatic you are.
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no i did not....i asked what the point of the thread was....you two were exhibiting a love fest and i wondered if that was the only point

i love how you equal that with saying i love rapists and apologize for them...what a moron
 
Threedee said:
Hell, I get discomforted whenever Watermark and Grind make a poll about the merits of humour concerning rape, so at least having a serious discussion, even if people are pissing you off, ought to be some improvement for you, Darla. I don't think that Yurt and Apple are trying to come accross as you perceive them.
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An improvement for me? I have not been privy to water and grind's polls, but the idiocy on this thread is no improvement for me. I have a better class of people in my circle. And I don't personally befriend rape apologists.

As for Yurt I have no idea what he is trying to say, I stopped reading his posts days ago and he writes like he is on speed so it's difficult to discern.

Apple is smarmy. Him I have read before.

But that's neither here nor there.

The man admitted to the rape.

Period.

All of this other stuff is a bunch of nonsense.
 
Yurt said:
odd....i've said they can....do i really need to post that post again...?

love the lies little buddy
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Yeah, I love that - yes, a rapist CAN be a rapist, but he isn't definitely a rapist unless a court says so.

Beyond moronic. You are seriously stupid; terminally....
 
Onceler said:
LOL

"someone can't be a rapist unless a court says they are"

Great POV. Biggest idiot here, bar none.

As for you, Apple - the "tone of voice & emotion" argument is completely bogus. How ridiculous to assume that every rape victim will display some sort of necessary hysterics or tears to "verify" they've been raped....
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And also you can't hear that in a transcript. Her voice could have been shaking. We don't know. I mean, it's not relevant and I completely agree with you, but it's a fact that we don't know.
 
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