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http://www.njeffersonnews.com/local/x1305238515/Sales-tax-passes

GARDENDALE — Starting in January, sales tax in Gardendale will be 10 cents on the dollar.

On Monday, the Gardendale City Council approved a controversial ordinance that will hike sales tax in the city from 9 percent.

The council passed the tax in a 4-2 vote before a packed council chambers that mostly opposed the tax increase.....

....Currington said the tax is expected to generate $9.5 million in four years and is earmarked for specific projects:

• $1 million to expand the Gardendale-Martha Moore Public Library

• almost $4 million to pay off the city’s long-term debt caused by three major projects: The Gardendale Post Office, Gardendale Civic Center and the Odum Road expansion project

• the remainder, $4.6 million (if the $9.5 million prediction is correct) for economic development, including but not limited to, “recruitment of new and expanding business, the construction of municipal infrastructure in support of trade, the granting of incentives as allowed by law, the acquisition of property, and such related uses as may be approved by the City Council from time to time,” the ordinances states.

None of the proceeds of the tax will be used in the city’s operating budget.

The financial committee’s argument for needing the tax is that the city’s reserve fund is shrinking. Currington said there is $6 million in the fund, $1.5 million of which is earmarked for certain projects like road construction and police and court expenses.

He said the remaining $4.5 million would decrease to about $1 million by 2014 because the city spends more than it brings in.
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What is really truly amazing is, a few years back, they raised sales tax from 7% to 9%, projecting all this new windfall which has not happened. Mainly because of a considerably smaller rival town about 3 miles to the south, Fultondale. Growing up in the area, I had friends who lived in Fultondale, and they used to tell the joke; What's the difference between Gardendale and Fultondale? ....The moon is just a little bigger in Gardendale!

Now, since Gardendale raised it's sales tax from 7 to 9 percent, Fultondale has attracted a multitude of new businesses. There are now shopping centers lining the road from the interstate into town, full of 'top-drawer' retailers... Home Depot.. Books-A-Million... Starbucks... Costco... Target... Outback Steak House...a movie theater and bowling alley... you get the picture. It has become quite the booming metropolis in the last few years, while Gardendale continues to lose retailers. "Building For Lease" signs dot the same length of road from the interstate. Oh by the way, Fultondale chose to LOWER it's sales tax from 7% to 6% when Gardendale voted to raise theirs.
 
almost $4 million to pay off the city’s long-term debt caused by three major projects: The Gardendale Post Office, Gardendale Civic Center and the Odum Road expansion project

This was supposedly the reason they needed to raise the taxes from 7 to 9 percent a few years ago. It failed to generate the revenue. Now, they think the answer is to raise the taxes again! Why do liberals insist on believing this idea that raising taxes creates more revenue? We see it at the national level, the state level, and the local level. It clearly doesn't work!
 
chicago has done similar things, like hiking a tax for bottled water. stupid, because all the outlying residents just drove to outer suburbs for bottled water.
 
And it didn't expand recently to make parts of Fultondale even more accessible to heavy traffic, creating favorable conditions for the business community?

Nope, it's the same as it has been for the past 40 years. The only difference is, Gardendale continues to raise sales taxes, while Fultondale has reduced them. It's pretty clear to me, the retailers are looking at the area and deciding on Fultondale because of lower sales taxes. Lower taxes equal more business.
 
Nope, it's the same as it has been for the past 40 years. The only difference is, Gardendale continues to raise sales taxes, while Fultondale has reduced them. It's pretty clear to me, the retailers are looking at the area and deciding on Fultondale because of lower sales taxes. Lower taxes equal more business.

That's not what it says on the internets, but you live around there, so I'll take your word for it. One of the hotel/retail sites even credits the recent expansion of the interstate for the influx of business development....
 
We're talking about I-65... it has been completed through that area since 1969. Prior to that, Hwy 31 was the main thoroughfare, running right through the center of both Gardendale and Fultondale. There is no 'advantageous' difference between I-65 in Fultondale and Gardendale, it's the same damn interstate, same exits, same amount of commercial property available, same access from the interstate, same length of highway from the interstate into town... the ONLY difference is municipal tax rates.
 
That's not what it says on the internets, but you live around there, so I'll take your word for it. One of the hotel/retail sites even credits the recent expansion of the interstate for the influx of business development....

They recently widened I-65 from 4-lanes to 8-lanes, but the widening stretches across both Fultondale and Gardendale, it doesn't provide either place with any 'advantage' they didn't already have. Yeah, I guess it would be a selling point to attract people who need to commute into Birmingham, but it applies for both cities.
 
http://www.njeffersonnews.com/local/x1305238515/Sales-tax-passes

GARDENDALE — Starting in January, sales tax in Gardendale will be 10 cents on the dollar.

On Monday, the Gardendale City Council approved a controversial ordinance that will hike sales tax in the city from 9 percent.

The council passed the tax in a 4-2 vote before a packed council chambers that mostly opposed the tax increase.....

....Currington said the tax is expected to generate $9.5 million in four years and is earmarked for specific projects:

• $1 million to expand the Gardendale-Martha Moore Public Library

• almost $4 million to pay off the city’s long-term debt caused by three major projects: The Gardendale Post Office, Gardendale Civic Center and the Odum Road expansion project

• the remainder, $4.6 million (if the $9.5 million prediction is correct) for economic development, including but not limited to, “recruitment of new and expanding business, the construction of municipal infrastructure in support of trade, the granting of incentives as allowed by law, the acquisition of property, and such related uses as may be approved by the City Council from time to time,” the ordinances states.

None of the proceeds of the tax will be used in the city’s operating budget.

The financial committee’s argument for needing the tax is that the city’s reserve fund is shrinking. Currington said there is $6 million in the fund, $1.5 million of which is earmarked for certain projects like road construction and police and court expenses.

He said the remaining $4.5 million would decrease to about $1 million by 2014 because the city spends more than it brings in.
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What is really truly amazing is, a few years back, they raised sales tax from 7% to 9%, projecting all this new windfall which has not happened. Mainly because of a considerably smaller rival town about 3 miles to the south, Fultondale. Growing up in the area, I had friends who lived in Fultondale, and they used to tell the joke; What's the difference between Gardendale and Fultondale? ....The moon is just a little bigger in Gardendale!

Now, since Gardendale raised it's sales tax from 7 to 9 percent, Fultondale has attracted a multitude of new businesses. There are now shopping centers lining the road from the interstate into town, full of 'top-drawer' retailers... Home Depot.. Books-A-Million... Starbucks... Costco... Target... Outback Steak House...a movie theater and bowling alley... you get the picture. It has become quite the booming metropolis in the last few years, while Gardendale continues to lose retailers. "Building For Lease" signs dot the same length of road from the interstate. Oh by the way, Fultondale chose to LOWER it's sales tax from 7% to 6% when Gardendale voted to raise theirs.

The Mayor of Mayor of Gardendale is a Graduate of the Institute of Biblical Studies from Liberty University (Jerry Falwell's school of bigots) and he is a liberal? Stop drinkin' from the crick there Dixie.
 
They recently widened I-65 from 4-lanes to 8-lanes, but the widening stretches across both Fultondale and Gardendale, it doesn't provide either place with any 'advantage' they didn't already have. Yeah, I guess it would be a selling point to attract people who need to commute into Birmingham, but it applies for both cities.

WOW...Hearing you mention the city Birmingham took me back to this:

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The Mayor of Mayor of Gardendale is a Graduate of the Institute of Biblical Studies from Liberty University (Jerry Falwell's school of bigots) and he is a liberal? Stop drinkin' from the crick there Dixie.

I don't even know who the mayor is, he isn't on the city council and didn't have a vote in this, so what difference does that make?
 
http://www.njeffersonnews.com/local/x1305238515/Sales-tax-passes

GARDENDALE — Starting in January, sales tax in Gardendale will be 10 cents on the dollar.

On Monday, the Gardendale City Council approved a controversial ordinance that will hike sales tax in the city from 9 percent.

The council passed the tax in a 4-2 vote before a packed council chambers that mostly opposed the tax increase.....

....Currington said the tax is expected to generate $9.5 million in four years and is earmarked for specific projects:

• $1 million to expand the Gardendale-Martha Moore Public Library

• almost $4 million to pay off the city’s long-term debt caused by three major projects: The Gardendale Post Office, Gardendale Civic Center and the Odum Road expansion project

• the remainder, $4.6 million (if the $9.5 million prediction is correct) for economic development, including but not limited to, “recruitment of new and expanding business, the construction of municipal infrastructure in support of trade, the granting of incentives as allowed by law, the acquisition of property, and such related uses as may be approved by the City Council from time to time,” the ordinances states.

None of the proceeds of the tax will be used in the city’s operating budget.

The financial committee’s argument for needing the tax is that the city’s reserve fund is shrinking. Currington said there is $6 million in the fund, $1.5 million of which is earmarked for certain projects like road construction and police and court expenses.

He said the remaining $4.5 million would decrease to about $1 million by 2014 because the city spends more than it brings in.
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What is really truly amazing is, a few years back, they raised sales tax from 7% to 9%, projecting all this new windfall which has not happened. Mainly because of a considerably smaller rival town about 3 miles to the south, Fultondale. Growing up in the area, I had friends who lived in Fultondale, and they used to tell the joke; What's the difference between Gardendale and Fultondale? ....The moon is just a little bigger in Gardendale!

Now, since Gardendale raised it's sales tax from 7 to 9 percent, Fultondale has attracted a multitude of new businesses. There are now shopping centers lining the road from the interstate into town, full of 'top-drawer' retailers... Home Depot.. Books-A-Million... Starbucks... Costco... Target... Outback Steak House...a movie theater and bowling alley... you get the picture. It has become quite the booming metropolis in the last few years, while Gardendale continues to lose retailers. "Building For Lease" signs dot the same length of road from the interstate. Oh by the way, Fultondale chose to LOWER it's sales tax from 7% to 6% when Gardendale voted to raise theirs.

I would prefer actual analysis rather than the guesstimations of dixie.
 
I don't even know who the mayor is, he isn't on the city council and didn't have a vote in this, so what difference does that make?

Correction: He DID have a vote, and I do know who he is:

Mayor Othell Phillips polled the crowd, asking those who opposed the tax to raise their hands, as well as those who supported it. Those in opposition outnumbered supporters at least two to one.Phillips himself voted against it, along with councilman Wendell Phillips.
 
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