CHALLANGE TO DIXIE>..

1 in 4 Americans are retarded. There are a lot more proles than that, but 25% fail a very simple litmus test, proving that they suffer from aquired intelligence deficiency syndrome. At least its not 1/3, or we'd have some difficulty with that one...

I guess you just read "1 in 4 Americans think Obama is a Muslim" and didn't bother reading anything else, or trying to comprehend the context of what else was said. That is sad, because it shows how you lack the ability to reasonably comprehend anything. Instead, you pick out a tidbit, and create your own divisive bigoted response, and move on to the next thread.

It was actually a compliment in this context, that so many people view him as either a Muslim, or someone with a cordial relationship with Muslims. In either case, it makes Obama uniquely suited to being a leader who could build bridges. But Obama is kind of like you 3Demented, he doesn't really care about his opportunities to do good, he only cares about being divisive and offensive to as many on the right as he can.
 
President Barack Obama's endorsement of the "Ground Zero mosque" during a speech on Friday night spurred some hope among supporters that a forceful case could be made for both the project's constitutionality and its larger geopolitical impact......The Huffington Post

Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) doesn't agree with President Obama on the headline-grabbing issue of building a mosque and Islamic community center near Manhattan's Ground Zero....Politics Daily

The Senate’s top Democrat yesterday slammed plans to build a mosque near the site of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, distancing himself from President Obama on the controversial election-year issue.....Boston Herald

President Barack Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) have agreed to disagree on a Muslim group’s controversial plans to build an Islamic community center and mosque a couple of blocks from ground zero in lower Manhattan.

Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent — to disagree with his opinion on this,” White House spokesman Bill Burton told reporters Tuesday.

“Senator Reid is a fiercely independent individual,” Burton said. “It’s one of his strengths as a leader of the Democratic Party. So the president feels completely fine that [they] might disagree.”..Politico

President Obama's staunchest ally in the Senate broke with the president today over the controversial Islamic center planned for a site near Ground Zero, and said he is opposed to its construction..ABC News

Reid is the most high profile Democrat so far to break with president by stating that the mosque "should" not be built near ground zero....CBS News

Reid broke with the president, with his spokesman saying the senator "thinks that the mosque should be built someplace else."...National Public Radio

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid broke with President Obama Monday over the proposed mosque near Ground Zero, saying the controversial Islamic center should be built elsewhere....FOX News

Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada on Monday became the highest profile Democrat to break with President Barack Obama.....GOOGLE-The Associated Press

The Senate's top Democrat yesterday broke with President Obama and came out against the mosque near Ground Zero, as the divisive issue roiled congressional campaigns across the country....New York Post

Democratic Sen. Reid: Build mosque elsewhere-Nevada senator locked in tough race distances himself from Obama.........MSNBC

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You would think that even pinheads like Jughead and Sissy would get it...
EVERYONE else gets it....and reported it in almost exactly the same words....certainly with exactly the same conclusions....
Only some narrow-minded pinheads refuse to accept what everyone else accepts....


Come on Jughead...I posted this especially for you and sissy....
How come you don't get and everyone elst does....
 
President Barack Obama's endorsement of the "Ground Zero mosque" during a speech on Friday night spurred some hope among supporters that a forceful case could be made for both the project's constitutionality and its larger geopolitical impact......The Huffington Post

Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) doesn't agree with President Obama on the headline-grabbing issue of building a mosque and Islamic community center near Manhattan's Ground Zero....Politics Daily

The Senate’s top Democrat yesterday slammed plans to build a mosque near the site of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, distancing himself from President Obama on the controversial election-year issue.....Boston Herald

President Barack Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) have agreed to disagree on a Muslim group’s controversial plans to build an Islamic community center and mosque a couple of blocks from ground zero in lower Manhattan.

Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent — to disagree with his opinion on this,” White House spokesman Bill Burton told reporters Tuesday.

“Senator Reid is a fiercely independent individual,” Burton said. “It’s one of his strengths as a leader of the Democratic Party. So the president feels completely fine that [they] might disagree.”..Politico

President Obama's staunchest ally in the Senate broke with the president today over the controversial Islamic center planned for a site near Ground Zero, and said he is opposed to its construction..ABC News

Reid is the most high profile Democrat so far to break with president by stating that the mosque "should" not be built near ground zero....CBS News

Reid broke with the president, with his spokesman saying the senator "thinks that the mosque should be built someplace else."...National Public Radio

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid broke with President Obama Monday over the proposed mosque near Ground Zero, saying the controversial Islamic center should be built elsewhere....FOX News

Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada on Monday became the highest profile Democrat to break with President Barack Obama.....GOOGLE-The Associated Press

The Senate's top Democrat yesterday broke with President Obama and came out against the mosque near Ground Zero, as the divisive issue roiled congressional campaigns across the country....New York Post

Democratic Sen. Reid: Build mosque elsewhere-Nevada senator locked in tough race distances himself from Obama.........MSNBC

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You would think that even pinheads like Jughead and Sissy would get it...
EVERYONE else gets it....and reported it in almost exactly the same words....certainly with exactly the same conclusions....
Only some narrow-minded pinheads refuse to accept what everyone else accepts....

Sorry I was away with my family for the weekend.

Im BAAAAACK.

Bravo, those posts, every one of them are commentary... They are lies put up by the Corporate media to sell more ad's because they love a contraversy.

Look at the presidents actual words and post where he said he supports or encourages this Mosque any more than simply defending the 1st Amendment. If you can do that you win. Not other people's words about what they interpertate his words to mean, the President's words.
 
Sorry I was away with my family for the weekend.

Im BAAAAACK.

Bravo, those posts, every one of them are commentary... They are lies put up by the Corporate media to sell more ad's because they love a contraversy.

Look at the presidents actual words and post where he said he supports or encourages this Mosque any more than simply defending the 1st Amendment. If you can do that you win. Not other people's words about what they interpertate his words to mean, the President's words.
So....

New York Post Newapaper
The Huffington Post
ABC News
NBC News
FOX News
MSNBC News
NPR

AP

Everyones ones lying....
EVEN WHITE HOUSE spokesman Bill Burton who said,"Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent — to disagree with his opinion on this.”

Now think Jughead....what is the opinion of those that disagree....?

I'll help you.....Its that the Mosque should not be built near the site of the WTC....

And the other side of the coin?

Obviously that means....Obama is of the opinion that the mosque SHOULD be built near the site of the WTC....

Everyone gets it but you.....even Obama, through his spokes person.
 
So....

New York Post Newapaper
The Huffington Post
ABC News
NBC News
FOX News
MSNBC News
NPR

AP

Everyones ones lying....
EVEN WHITE HOUSE spokesman Bill Burton who said,"Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent — to disagree with his opinion on this.”

Now think Jughead....what is the opinion of those that disagree....?

I'll help you.....Its that the Mosque should not be built near the site of the WTC....

And the other side of the coin?

Obviously that means....Obama is of the opinion that the mosque SHOULD be built near the site of the WTC....

Everyone gets it but you.....even Obama, through his spokes person.

Look, it will serve you well to make up your own mind about things, not just go with what the media says.

Look at the raw data, in this case the President's own words. What did the President say?

Dont let:

New York Post Newapaper
The Huffington Post
ABC News
NBC News
FOX News
MSNBC News
NPR


Make decisions for you, make your own decisions based on the raw data.
 
Look, it will serve you well to make up your own mind about things, not just go with what the media says.

Look at the raw data, in this case the President's own words. What did the President say?

Dont let:

New York Post Newapaper
The Huffington Post
ABC News
NBC News
FOX News
MSNBC News
NPR


Make decisions for you, make your own decisions based on the raw data.

He did that too, Jarhead... Bravo broke down the entire speech Obama gave, line by line, and explained each part. How he established and framed his thoughts, and justified his position. He not only endorsed the mosque, but made a compelling argument for why it's important to build it, in order to uphold our principles. All of the above sources reviewed the "raw data" and came to the same conclusion we all have, except for you! Most of these sources would do virtually ANYTHING to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, and not read anything into his words, yet they disagree with you... how do you explain that, Jarhead? How do you explain Harry Reid and Howard Dean, making statements contrary to the president on this? Did they read something into the 'raw data' as well?

I think what your retard ass needs to do, is re-read the presidents whole speech, and see if you can grasp the concept of "context" and perhaps discover why you are so fucking wrong on this, you can't find one example of someone who agrees with your take!
 
Dixie said, "Obama doesn't have any objections, and given his public comments, sounds as if he not only thinks it's a wonderful idea, but appropriate and in the spirit of our founding principles... because that's exactly what he said."


Again, show us the words where he said the Mosque is a WONDERFUL IDEA....

You cant

Liar...

Glad to see you back Dixie! See above... anything?
 
He did that too, Jarhead... Bravo broke down the entire speech Obama gave, line by line, and explained each part. How he established and framed his thoughts, and justified his position. He not only endorsed the mosque, but made a compelling argument for why it's important to build it, in order to uphold our principles. All of the above sources reviewed the "raw data" and came to the same conclusion we all have, except for you! Most of these sources would do virtually ANYTHING to give Obama the benefit of the doubt, and not read anything into his words, yet they disagree with you... how do you explain that, Jarhead? How do you explain Harry Reid and Howard Dean, making statements contrary to the president on this? Did they read something into the 'raw data' as well?

I think what your retard ass needs to do, is re-read the presidents whole speech, and see if you can grasp the concept of "context" and perhaps discover why you are so fucking wrong on this, you can't find one example of someone who agrees with your take!


Where did Harry Reid or Dean make statements that are contrary to President Obama's? Post the contradictions!!! THe media called them contrary, but they were not! Look at them, how were they contrary...

I know you will refuse to respond....
 
Jarhead, I am done with this thread. Your challenge was met, and you continue to run around like a little retard, repeating the same idiocy over and over again. I don't have time for your shit. Sorry.
 
Jarhead, I am done with this thread. Your challenge was met, and you continue to run around like a little retard, repeating the same idiocy over and over again. I don't have time for your shit. Sorry.

Cut and run, Cut and run!

I understand Dixie, but you will forgive me if I keep the thread fresh for everyone to see how you caved when challanged.
 
EVEN WHITE HOUSE spokesman Bill Burton who said,"Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent — to disagree with his opinion on this.”

Now think Jughead....what is the opinion of those that disagree....?

I'll help you.....Its that the Mosque should not be built near the site of the WTC....

And the other side of the coin?

Obviously that means....Obama is of the opinion that the mosque SHOULD be built near the site of the WTC....
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And there it is.....what you get when dealing with a narrow-mined, partisan, pinhead, Democrat...that won't even accept the words of the President, whose ass his nose up, nor clarification from the presidents own spokesperson that shows he is wrong, wrong and wrong....
the only one of that won't accept what EVERY media source agrees on, left and right, liberal and conservative....
EVERYONE IS WRONG EXCEPT JUGHEAD....its pathetic.

I too see no need to continue this farce....its akin to beating a cripple in a wheelchair....
 
EVEN WHITE HOUSE spokesman Bill Burton who said,"Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent — to disagree with his opinion on this.”

Now think Jughead....what is the opinion of those that disagree....?

I'll help you.....Its that the Mosque should not be built near the site of the WTC....

And the other side of the coin?

Obviously that means....Obama is of the opinion that the mosque SHOULD be built near the site of the WTC....
--------------------------

And there it is.....what you get when dealing with a narrow-mined, partisan, pinhead, Democrat...that won't even accept the words of the President, whose ass his nose up, nor clarification from the presidents own spokesperson that shows he is wrong, wrong and wrong....
the only one of that won't accept what EVERY media source agrees on, left and right, liberal and conservative....
EVERYONE IS WRONG EXCEPT JUGHEAD....its pathetic.

I too see no need to continue this farce....its akin to beating a cripple in a wheelchair....

Careful bravo, you're asking Jarhead to think... he might bust a hemorrhoid!
 
EVEN WHITE HOUSE spokesman Bill Burton who said,"Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent — to disagree with his opinion on this.”

Now think Jughead....what is the opinion of those that disagree....?

I'll help you.....Its that the Mosque should not be built near the site of the WTC....

And the other side of the coin?

Obviously that means....Obama is of the opinion that the mosque SHOULD be built near the site of the WTC....
--------------------------

And there it is.....what you get when dealing with a narrow-mined, partisan, pinhead, Democrat...that won't even accept the words of the President, whose ass his nose up, nor clarification from the presidents own spokesperson that shows he is wrong, wrong and wrong....
the only one of that won't accept what EVERY media source agrees on, left and right, liberal and conservative....
EVERYONE IS WRONG EXCEPT JUGHEAD....its pathetic.

I too see no need to continue this farce....its akin to beating a cripple in a wheelchair....

No, clearly he said that they have a constitutional right to build the Mosque, he respects the right of anyone to disagree with that...

He respects anyone's right to disagree with what he said...

This is easily resolved, just post where he said he the Mosque SHOULD be built... ONce you do that, you have won...

You are the one refusing to accept the words of the president, heck you cant even post any words of the president where he says the MOSQUE should be built.
 
Fair enough question, Sochead... I'll be glad to answer!

President Barack Obama is in a unique position as presidents go, one in four Americans believe he IS a Muslim, he certainly has a closer personal relationship to Islam than any president in the history of our nation. He is also an American, and claims to be Christian. The leader of the free world, holder of the most powerful office in the world. In the words of Nixon... Now is the place, now is the time!

Obama missed a rare and unique opportunity which could have probably only existed for someone with his particular background, to use leadership and conviction of principles to bridge the gap between Muslims and Christians in America. He could have delivered a speech to challenge opponents and proponents of the mosque to come together and have the dialogue, he could have spoken to the importance of debate in our country, and how we have historically worked together to sort through our differences, and do what is right.

Instead of using his leadership to try and bring two sides together, he used this opportunity to pull out the political hammer and bash the right again. Instead of a call for both sides to reconcile differences, he chose to take a moral high horse stand, and call opponents intolerant bigots who seek to suppress religious freedom. In doing so, he further divided people, and squandered an opportunity for possible immortal greatness, I think. All due to a complete lack of leadership ability. A great leader would have seized the moment, turned this into a positive, made America stronger and greater by taking a courageous stand. Instead, we get a typical divisive political hack.

Good answer. You are right, that would have gone a long way to easing the tension, the mosque would have eventually been there, but people might not have been as angry about it. It really was a missed opportunity.
 
So....

New York Post Newapaper
The Huffington Post
ABC News
NBC News
FOX News
MSNBC News
NPR

AP

Everyones ones lying....
EVEN WHITE HOUSE spokesman Bill Burton who said,"Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent — to disagree with his opinion on this.”

Now think Jughead....what is the opinion of those that disagree....?

I'll help you.....Its that the Mosque should not be built near the site of the WTC....

And the other side of the coin?

Obviously that means....Obama is of the opinion that the mosque SHOULD be built near the site of the WTC....

Everyone gets it but you.....even Obama, through his spokes person.

I disagree. The president said they had the first amendment right to build the mosque there. It is THEIR property to control. What he said was, they have a right in the US to build a mosque there. What was unsaid, but should be assumed is that if they have property rights there, they get to use it for their purposes. It doesn't violate any zoning laws and so long as no laws are broken their property rights prevail over your emotional feelings. Welcome to America.
 
You can disagree all you want.....If you have a problem with the truth as all these news organizations see it...call 'em and bitch....good luck
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President Barack Obama's endorsement of the "Ground Zero mosque" during a speech on Friday night spurred some hope among supporters that a forceful case could be made for both the project's constitutionality and its larger geopolitical impact......The Huffington Post

Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) doesn't agree with President Obama on the headline-grabbing issue of building a mosque and Islamic community center near Manhattan's Ground Zero....Politics Daily

The Senate’s top Democrat yesterday slammed plans to build a mosque near the site of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, distancing himself from President Obama on the controversial election-year issue.....Boston Herald

President Barack Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) have agreed to disagree on a Muslim group’s controversial plans to build an Islamic community center and mosque a couple of blocks from ground zero in lower Manhattan.

Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent — to disagree with his opinion on this,” White House spokesman Bill Burton told reporters Tuesday.

“Senator Reid is a fiercely independent individual,” Burton said. “It’s one of his strengths as a leader of the Democratic Party. So the president feels completely fine that [they] might disagree.”..Politico

President Obama's staunchest ally in the Senate broke with the president today over the controversial Islamic center planned for a site near Ground Zero, and said he is opposed to its construction..ABC News

Reid is the most high profile Democrat so far to break with president by stating that the mosque "should" not be built near ground zero....CBS News

Reid broke with the president, with his spokesman saying the senator "thinks that the mosque should be built someplace else."...National Public Radio

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid broke with President Obama Monday over the proposed mosque near Ground Zero, saying the controversial Islamic center should be built elsewhere....FOX News

Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada on Monday became the highest profile Democrat to break with President Barack Obama.....GOOGLE-The Associated Press

The Senate's top Democrat yesterday broke with President Obama and came out against the mosque near Ground Zero, as the divisive issue roiled congressional campaigns across the country....New York Post

Democratic Sen. Reid: Build mosque elsewhere-Nevada senator locked in tough race distances himself from Obama.........MSNBC
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I suggest you start with Bill Burton and Obama....

EVEN WHITE HOUSE spokesman Bill Burton who said,"Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent —
to disagree with his opinion on this.”



 
You can disagree all you want.....If you have a problem with the truth as all these news organizations see it...call 'em and bitch....good luck
===================================
President Barack Obama's endorsement of the "Ground Zero mosque" during a speech on Friday night spurred some hope among supporters that a forceful case could be made for both the project's constitutionality and its larger geopolitical impact......The Huffington Post

Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.) doesn't agree with President Obama on the headline-grabbing issue of building a mosque and Islamic community center near Manhattan's Ground Zero....Politics Daily

The Senate’s top Democrat yesterday slammed plans to build a mosque near the site of the 9/11 terrorist attacks, distancing himself from President Obama on the controversial election-year issue.....Boston Herald

President Barack Obama and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) have agreed to disagree on a Muslim group’s controversial plans to build an Islamic community center and mosque a couple of blocks from ground zero in lower Manhattan.

Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent — to disagree with his opinion on this,” White House spokesman Bill Burton told reporters Tuesday.

“Senator Reid is a fiercely independent individual,” Burton said. “It’s one of his strengths as a leader of the Democratic Party. So the president feels completely fine that [they] might disagree.”..Politico

President Obama's staunchest ally in the Senate broke with the president today over the controversial Islamic center planned for a site near Ground Zero, and said he is opposed to its construction..ABC News

Reid is the most high profile Democrat so far to break with president by stating that the mosque "should" not be built near ground zero....CBS News

Reid broke with the president, with his spokesman saying the senator "thinks that the mosque should be built someplace else."...National Public Radio

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid broke with President Obama Monday over the proposed mosque near Ground Zero, saying the controversial Islamic center should be built elsewhere....FOX News

Sen. Harry Reid of Nevada on Monday became the highest profile Democrat to break with President Barack Obama.....GOOGLE-The Associated Press

The Senate's top Democrat yesterday broke with President Obama and came out against the mosque near Ground Zero, as the divisive issue roiled congressional campaigns across the country....New York Post

Democratic Sen. Reid: Build mosque elsewhere-Nevada senator locked in tough race distances himself from Obama.........MSNBC
=========================

I suggest you start with Bill Burton and Obama....

EVEN WHITE HOUSE spokesman Bill Burton who said,"Obama “respects the right of anybody — Democrat, Republican, independent —
to disagree with his opinion on this.”




That does not mean that the president is in favor of the Mosque, it simply shows that the president made a statement about the constitutionality of the Mosque and respects the right of anyont to disagree...

You should learn to think for yourself and not let the media do it for you!


A basic truth is that just because the media says it, does not make it true...!
 
Jughead...you've been pwned by the ENTIRE main stream media of the WORLD....the entire world, including the White House spokesman for your hero.....its time to stop digging man....

Left/Right/Democrat/Republican/Liberal and Conservative..pwned by EVERYONE
and still you keep on.....you're one pathetic dude....everybody gets it but you

You're dismissed.
 
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