I don't do "cite" and the context is, he wants Sharia law instituted in America, so Muslims can live here in compliance with their religion. He frames his argument in the context that America is
already Sharia compliant, because many of the tenants of Sharia are also found in the Constitution. However, in his presentations, he doesn't address how Sharia's brutal treatment of women and Christians is even
remotely similar to anything found in our Constitution.
He said " “I’m not a politician. I try to avoid the issues. This issue of terrorism is a very complex question. …I’m a bridge builder…”, and you're condemning him for being diplomatic. Our State Dept. designates it as a terrorist organization but every country in the world doesn't see it that way. I'm sure your opinion of Park 51 would undergo a 180-degree change if he did condemn Hamas, right?
Hamas is a terror organization, there is not a debate over opinions on this. It is insane to even try and argue they have not perpetrated acts of terror on innocent people! You have to just blatantly ignore history, like the Jew haters routinely deny the holocaust! It's a matter of fucking record, they ARE a terror organization!
Yes, if he came out and condemned Hamas, it would go a really LONG way in making me feel more comfortable that he's telling the truth regarding his "moderate" views. The fact that he refuses to do this, sends me in the opposite direction.
Where did you get this info? I'm only finding second-hand references on RW blogs and they don't count. It's laughable that you would criticize a Saudi donation, given how tight bush and his corrupt cronies along with Harken, profited from Saudi investments in their businesses. And how about the U.S. helping the Saudis during the '80s in their huge military buildup of airfields, ports, and bases throughout the kingdom? If you have a bone to pick with the Saudis, you should focus your outrage on all the U.S.-Saudi deals and connections that've been going on for decades, instead of hyperventilating over any *possible* funding of Park51.
*sighhhh* This is not about trade and commerce with Saudi Arabia! It's not about helping the Saudi's militarily (our allies) or Bush policies.... This is about the mosque project being funded by radical elements of Islam, which are known to reside inside Saudi Arabia and Iran! The info should be public domain, I'm not sure where you could go to confirm it, but the first time I heard it reported in the media, was on CNN.
No, I mined the web for all information pertaining to the purchase of the building. It's the same info that's available to anyone who cares to do the research.
Then you should be able to tell ME who's funding it!
Now you're being schizophrenic. They bought the building in 7/09 and began having prayer services there (i.e. using one room like a mosque) starting in 9/09. Nobody complained back then, at least not that it made national news. So why are you for them having the right to move in and hold prayer services in 2009, and against it in 2010?
For the thirtieth time in this thread alone,
THIS IS NOT ABOUT MUSLIMS PRAYING OR WORSHIPING! THIS IS NOT ABOUT INTOLERANCE FOR MUSLIMS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD! Do I need a fucking BRICK to get that point through your thick skull? Please STOP constructing your arguments around this false and reprehensible inference.
NO ONE has said that Muslims should be prohibited from practicing their religious beliefs! That is what you are asking me here, and it's just plain fucking insulting and I refuse to respond further. No one "complained" because they weren't planning on building a trophy mosque to commemorate their jihad victory on 9/11, back when they moved in!
Upgrading a building and increasing property values isn't a bad thing.
Building an Islamic trophy of conquest at Ground Zero IS a bad thing!
....lmao@ "upgrading" a building!! IS that what they are calling $100 million 13-story high-rise projects these days?
Again. Ingraham was for the building before she was against it. In 12/09 she said "I like what you’re trying to do and Ms. Khan we appreciate it and come on my radio show some time." In 8/10 she said "Well, I say the terrorists have won with how this has gone down. 600 feet from where thousands of our fellow Americans were incinerated in the name of political Islam, and we’re supposed to be cheering this?!" Hypocrite much?
And again... PROOF that the right is not a bunch of intolerant xenophobe wackos who want to deny Muslims their constitutional right to freedom of religion! Thanks for clarifying that and getting that ugly and absurd allegation off the table permanently!
Your comment was: "... radicals in their religion will view this as a trophy of conquest, regardless of whether that is how it is intended." My response was it doesn't matter how radical Muslims view it (if they view it at all), it's actions that count. And you have nothing to back your comment that the Muslims are radical, and that they're planning something evil in the community center.
So that is the only way you would oppose such a project? If the radical wingnuts of Islam announced they were going to fund the mosque and use it to perpetrate terrorist acts, THEN you'd be opposed to it? Is that what you are telling me?
{QUOTE]Okay by me, but the rest of the post was to condemn those RWs who blew this real estate purchase into a national controversy. It's all just bigotry with a capital "B", and you're willfully blind not to admit it.[/QUOTE]
Barack Obama turned this into a national story, when he refused to be our leader, and instead, failed at being all things to everyone. YOU have kept it a national story, because you think it's a "Terri Schiavo" that you can use to your advantage at the polls, no other reason... you don't give one whit about Muslims practicing their religion, or anything else... this is something that is a "left-right" thing for you, and you MUST support your "side" at all costs, even if it's INSANE!
