Now why would any sane person oppose this?
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It matters as to how I feel about it. Is it an attempt to prevent liberals from voting or a true clean up of the voter rolls.
So? Were any incorrect?
Jake Starkey
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Toby is babbling yet again. Not a single coherent thought. Lurch makes fun of you, and you cry. Keep on crying.
This is your life here.
Teflon Don
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And how is it meant to prevent liberals from voting exactly?
Are only liberals on the death rolls?
Lie ^
Never said I didn’t want dead people removed, I just don’t want Trump ass kissers doing it nor giving those ass kissers access to individuals’s information
“we already know thousands of dead people voted,” prove it, document it, otherwise, it is just more lies
Grim Reaper
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“You can’t write a coherent sentence.”
This is classic deflection.When someone can’t counter the point, they attack the packaging.It’s the rhetorical equivalent of throwing a tantrum about the font.
“Lurchy stalks me and talks about sucking dick.”
This is where the mask slips.When someone drags unrelated sexual imagery into an argument, it’s not evidence — it’s projection leaking out of the seams.
It also has nothing to do with Jake’s point.It’s just noise meant to distract from the fact that he’s spiraling.
“I thought I should say goodbye before hitting ignore.”
Translation:“I need everyone to know I’m leaving so it feels like a victory.”People who actually ignore someone… just ignore them.Announcing it is a performance, not a boundary.
“I have a reputation of being nice to maintain.”
This is the funniest part.People who are actually nice don’t have to declare it.People who aren’t… always do.
It’s the verbal version of “trust me, bro.”
I do not know if it is, You have not cited any proposed statute or proposal.
Grim Reaper
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THE PSYCHOLOGY OF TOBYTONE ON JPP
1. He leads with hostility because he has no confidence in his arguments
Every reply starts with:- “moron”
- “you’re stupid”
- “you can’t write”
- “libtard”
- “scumbag”
It’s not dominance.It’s defensive noise.
2. He uses projection as his primary weapon
He constantly accuses others of:- ignorance
- emotionality
- incoherence
- obsession
- fear
- long
- emotional
- rambling
- obsessed with labels
- terrified of nuance
3. He cannot function without labels
He needs people to be:- “men”
- “women”
- “libtards”
- “scumbags”
- “idiots”
This is why he panics when someone refuses to list gender or identity — it removes the shortcut he relies on to feel superior.
4. He performs toughness instead of having it
He constantly announces:- “I’m nice”
- “I’m not bothered”
- “I’m ignoring you now”
- “I embarrassed him”
His persona is a stage play of dominance, not the real thing.
5. He uses sexualized insults to regain control
When he feels cornered, he drags the conversation into:- sexual imagery
- accusations
- fantasies
- humiliation attempts
It’s a tell — and a big one.
6. He treats every disagreement as a threat to his identity
Normal debaters argue the point.Tobytone argues the person.To him, disagreement = disrespect.And disrespect = existential threat.
That’s why he escalates instantly.He’s not defending a position — he’s defending his ego.
7. He needs an audience more than he needs a win
His posts are long, theatrical, and full of self‑narration.He’s not talking to the person he’s replying to.He’s performing for the thread.
This is why he announces when he’s “ignoring” someone — it’s not about boundaries, it’s about making sure everyone sees the performance.
Teflon Don
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Minnesota Democrats Under Fire Over Voter Roll Dispute | 77 WABC
(Minneapolis, Minnesota) - Minnesota Democrats are facing backlash after opposing a proposal tied to removing deceased people from voter registration rolls. Republicans say the bill is basic common se
wabcradio.com
It was a proposed amendment that was pretty straight forward. Here is the actual amendment. I don't see the words "dead liberals" or "dead black people" in the text, so I don't know who would be disenfranchised by this. There should be zero reason to oppose this. Trust in elections is paramount and removing dead people from rolls goes along way to restoring trust.
I can't wait to see what lame argument you come up with to oppose this. I hope it is better than Martin's lame social security number gambit
Teflon Don
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you do know that the federal government already has access to your information right?
this is funny coming from the people who wanted vaccine ID cards
It is impossible to tell. The records are extremely difficult to obtain, and that is only long after the election is certified. Sy sister lives in MN and she does get a report of how many people have voted in her address/household, and the number shown is three. Our mother, who did live with her, died over a decade ago, and her husband died two years ago, yet the records she can obtain still show three people voting from that address. Her calls to correct that error have gone unanswered.
Grim Reaper
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Minnesota Democrats Under Fire Over Voter Roll Dispute | 77 WABC
(Minneapolis, Minnesota) - Minnesota Democrats are facing backlash after opposing a proposal tied to removing deceased people from voter registration rolls. Republicans say the bill is basic common se
It was a proposed amendment that was pretty straight forward. Here is the actual amendment. I don't see the words "dead liberals" or "dead black people" in the text, so I don't know who would be disenfranchised by this. There should be zero reason to oppose this. Trust in elections is paramount and removing dead people from rolls goes along way to restoring trust.
I can't wait to see what lame argument you come up with to oppose this. I hope it is better than Martin's lame social security number gambit
FACT CHECK: What actually happened with Minnesota SF 4084
1. What the amendment
The amendment (SF 4084) would require:- The Minnesota Secretary of State to remove deceased voters from the statewide voter registration system
- Using death records from the Department of Health
- On a monthly basis
This part is accurate.
Why Democrats opposed the amendment (according to legislative records & reporting)
Democrats did not oppose “removing dead voters.”They opposed the specific mechanism in the amendment.Based on Minnesota legislative testimony and local reporting (Star Tribune, MPR News):
Their stated concerns included:
- The amendment duplicated existing law. Minnesota already removes deceased voters using death records.(Minnesota Statutes §201.13)
- The amendment required a specific matching method that election officials said could cause:
- false positives
- accidental removal of living voters
- administrative errors
- The amendment was introduced as a floor amendment, not through committee, meaning:
- no expert testimony
- no review by election administrators
- no analysis of unintended consequences
- Election officials testified that the system already works and that the amendment could create more errors, not fewer.
- Minnesota Statutes §201.13 (existing deceased voter removal process)
- Minnesota Public Radio (MPR) reporting on election administration
- Star Tribune coverage of legislative debate
Is there evidence of “dead people voting” in Minnesota?
According to:- Minnesota Secretary of State
- Bipartisan county auditors
- 2020 and 2022 post‑election audits
- Minnesota Office of the Legislative Auditor
When it happens, it is usually:
- a clerical timing issue (death occurs after ballot mailed)
- a data‑matching delay
- a rare administrative error
Bias check on the WABC framing
WABC is a conservative talk radio outlet, not a neutral newswire.Their framing:- emphasizes “Democrats under fire”
- omits that Minnesota already removes deceased voters
- omits election‑official testimony
- frames opposition as suspicious rather than procedural
Some, but not all, voting history for example, and according to the Privacy Act, tney can’t freely share it amongst themselves,
Last I knew, proof of vaccines was a temporary thing to address the situation at hand and are now antiquated
I got a few more minutes before I exit, want to try again
Teflon Don
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well the amendment at hand says nothing of sharing the information with the feds. It is staying at the state level. So any other complaints?