No one but bigots would notice mosque
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Dixie - In Memoriam
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Have you purchased your prayer rug yet?
Just curious!
Just curious!
I don't even have to say anything anymore (in this little "debate" we're having).
I can just kick back and watch you dig the hole deeper.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Yeah, that's right, you don't have anything to say! You're DONE! PWNED!
Were you aware, this Muslim who is heading the mosque project, stated that Osama Bin Laden was "made in the USA?" That he believes the attacks on 9/11 were the result of US foreign policy? And in spite of his portraying himself as a "moderate Muslim" his close friend and colleague, the head of CAIR, says there is no such thing as a "moderate" Muslim, that there is a place for Jihadists, there is a place for teachers of Islam, but there is no place for "moderate" Muslims in Islam?
i used to work with a muslim - he explained that muslim women do well in nations where islamic law or the sharia does not apply as they get the benefits that islam provides women and the benefits that u s of a and local (in his case ca law) law provide to women
You googling talking points on "redstates.com" again, Reb?
You should really steer clear of those sites. The paranoia already runs very deep with you...
1) Its not "at" ground zero.
2) It's not a "mosque".
3) I'm not surprised you view this as an election issue.
4) Am I supposed to be shocked that republicans would run on some theme or variation involving blacks, mexicans, femi-nazis, or muslims? Color me not surprised bro, that's what the GOP has done ever since Reagan.
4) I don't think 80% of americans are bigots. I think a lot of americans have been misinformed by the reich wing that it's a "trophy mosque, on ground zero", and aren't aware that this non-mosque community center, which is not being built on ground zero, and which is operated by respectable american muslims.
5) I don't give a crap where they want to build their mosque, it's not my business. I only consider it my business when minorities in this country have to run a gauntlet of rightwing xenophobia, and overt bigotry.
The only intolerant bigots I've personally seen are the message boarders I've seen who have either professed faux outrage about trophy mosques, or who those message boarders who have provided cover to the bigots by professing empathy and understanding at how some bigot could get "offended" by a community center several blocks from the WTC. Specifically, in an area of manhattan that has had a traditional, long-standing muslim presence. I don't distinguish between bigots, and bigot-enablers. Are you bigots aware that NYC is a cultural melting pot, or not?
Carry on, man......
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Dixie - In Memoriam
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In New York, there is also much opposition to the mosque. This is a pretty universal thing, guys. I know you and Prissy live in a liberal kook fantasy vacuum, and just don't join us here in reality-land very often, but nearly everyone thinks this is a bad idea, and the Muslims should pick another location for their mosque. I mean, how often do you see Dixie and Harry Reid in agreement on something, dufus? What bigger indicator does it take? ...A lightning bolt?
Diverse groups agreeing has no bearing on right or wrong.
A lot of people agreed on Japanese internment, as well.
It's hysteria. And you're the hysterical leader. You thrive on this stuff.
Give me the link to the new york poll.
At this point in the news cycle, polls aren't worth shit. Because what people imagine they know about this local zoning issue, is not the same as what the actual facts are. Wingnuts have been screaming for a month that this is a mosque on ground zero, and dedicated to islamic victory on 9/11. And its been repeated so often on Drudge, Fox News, and cable TV that that canard has entered the popular conciousness. It has nothing to do with reality.
Kind of like when you made up fantastical stories of WMD's and nukes pointed at america by Saddam? A lot of people fell for that bullshit. I didn't.
It's not a mosque, its not at ground zero, and it involves respectable american muslims. Oddly enough, that's not the way Fox News, Drudge, talk radio, and much of cable TV are portraying it.
Any idea why - as in your iraq war sales job- the fantasies are way out in front of the facts?
zappasguitar
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WOW...one talking point after another...all lifted straight from Glenn Beck's lies and distortion...no WONDER you never win any debates...
zappasguitar
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How about that?
The real debate begins and ol Dix tucks tail between legs and goes cowering home just like a frightened little coward.
Dixie - In Memoriam
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No, you go research it yourself asswipe, and if I'm wrong, you can priss back over here and tell everybody! The OVERWHELMING majority of New Yorker's as well as non-retarded Americans, are OPPOSED to the mosque being built at this site. Not just by a couple of percent within the margin of error, but by huge gaping margins. Only and abject fucktard would attempt to argue that isn't the case.
Really? Polls which show 68% ...75% ...80% of Americans share the same sentiment, aren't "worth shit?" That's funny, because if this were some issue you were pushing for, and this many people supported it, you would be crowing about it non-stop! It's funny how polls "aren't worth shit" only when it's something that you are against.
Wake up and pay attention, this is MORE than a local zoning issue, the president confirmed that the other day. You see, it WAS a local zoning issue, but you cats took the genie out of the bottle and paraded around with her for 3 days, calling her your girlfriend, now the genie doesn't want to go back into the 'local zoning issue' bottle! I realize that is part of the liberal talking points now, but really dude... it fails! YOUR PRESIDENT made it MORE than a LOCAL issue, by flapping his big purple lips about it. If he had kept his yap shut, and if all of you had remained consistent with "it's a local zoning issue-- no comment" then, you might be able to fly this duck, but that's not what happened, is it? You tried to make it into a political issue, and you succeeded! Congrats!
It has always been correctly reported that the site is not at ground zero, but two blocks away, there has never been any false reporting on the location. Although not AT ground zero exactly, the building suffered damage from the falling debris from Mohamed Atta's "missile" used to deal a victorious blow on the Great Satan. The planned name for the center is "Cordoba" which is coincidentally, the name of the Spanish city which was conquered by Islam and made the capitol of their Islamic Caliphate. Even "moderate" Muslims agree this is a Trophy Mosque! YOU are the one who is completely split from reality here!
Ahhh yes... Let's divert the topic to a discussion of WMD's and Bush! How fucking predictable!
That's because it IS a mosque, and it IS in proximity of ground zero, and it WAS the location where part of Atta's victory missile landed! It is being built by Muslims who think 9/11 happened as a result of US policy, who believe the US should be "Sharia compliant", and who refuse to denounce Hammas as a terror organization.
Well, good luck with this new angle of trying to tie this to the Iraq War, I guess when you are losing badly, you really have to grasp at any straw you can to make your arguments, huh?
Yeah, you guys are full of those today, what's up with that? ....Local zoning issue.... not a mosque... not at ground zero... moderate Muslims... Iraq, WMD, Bush... Glenn Beck... right wing nutjobs... One talking point after another!
Southern Chicken
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http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/article.php?id=986
DIXIE are you aware that this same individual has more to his background?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/17/ground-zero-imam-helped-f_n_685071.html
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"Imam Feisal has participated at the Aspen Institute in Muslim-Christian-Jewish working groups looking at ways to promote greater religious tolerance," Walter Isaacson, head of The Aspen Institute told the Huffington Post. "He has consistently denounced radical Islam and terrorism, and promoted a moderate and tolerant Islam. Some of this work was done under the auspices of his own group, the Cordoba Initiative. I liked his book, and I participated in some of the meetings in 2004 or so. This is why I find it a shame that his good work is being undermined by this inflamed dispute. He is the type of leader we should be celebrating in America, not undermining."
A longtime Muslim presence in New York City, Feisal Abdul Rauf has been a participant in the geopolitical debate about Islamic-Western relations well before 9/11. In 1997, he founded the American Society for Muslim Advancement to promote a more positive integration of Muslims into American society. His efforts and profile rose dramatically after the attacks when, in need of a calm voice to explain why greater Islam was not a force bent on terrorism, he became a go-to quote for journalists on the beat."
How about the ground zero families who support the center? Are you saying that they are unaware as well???????
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September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows applauds President Barack Obama for his statement in support of the building of a mosque near Ground Zero. On that day, members of our organization paid the ultimate price. We lost loved ones in the tragic attacks, attacks perpetrated by criminals. Our losses will never be redeemed; our wounds will never fully heal. On 9/11/2001 while many of us buried our loved ones we also took heart in our nation's principles and our rule of law. Ours is a nation that fights for religious freedom. Many of us who call ourselves Americans do so because we came to escape religious persecution in other lands.
http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/article.php?id=986
OOOOOoooooopsssss
DIXIE are you aware that this same individual has more to his background?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/08/17/ground-zero-imam-helped-f_n_685071.html
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"Imam Feisal has participated at the Aspen Institute in Muslim-Christian-Jewish working groups looking at ways to promote greater religious tolerance," Walter Isaacson, head of The Aspen Institute told the Huffington Post. "He has consistently denounced radical Islam and terrorism, and promoted a moderate and tolerant Islam. Some of this work was done under the auspices of his own group, the Cordoba Initiative. I liked his book, and I participated in some of the meetings in 2004 or so. This is why I find it a shame that his good work is being undermined by this inflamed dispute. He is the type of leader we should be celebrating in America, not undermining."
A longtime Muslim presence in New York City, Feisal Abdul Rauf has been a participant in the geopolitical debate about Islamic-Western relations well before 9/11. In 1997, he founded the American Society for Muslim Advancement to promote a more positive integration of Muslims into American society. His efforts and profile rose dramatically after the attacks when, in need of a calm voice to explain why greater Islam was not a force bent on terrorism, he became a go-to quote for journalists on the beat."
How about the ground zero families who support the center? Are you saying that they are unaware as well???????
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September 11th Families for Peaceful Tomorrows applauds President Barack Obama for his statement in support of the building of a mosque near Ground Zero. On that day, members of our organization paid the ultimate price. We lost loved ones in the tragic attacks, attacks perpetrated by criminals. Our losses will never be redeemed; our wounds will never fully heal. On 9/11/2001 while many of us buried our loved ones we also took heart in our nation's principles and our rule of law. Ours is a nation that fights for religious freedom. Many of us who call ourselves Americans do so because we came to escape religious persecution in other lands.
http://www.peacefultomorrows.org/article.php?id=986
OOOOOoooooopsssss
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Dixie - In Memoriam
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Nope, never have talked about Clinton signing any such act. Especially in a thread that doesn't have a damn thing to do with the war in Iraq. Clinton signed the "1998 Iraq Liberation Act" which called for the removal of Saddam Hussein from power, and replacing him with a democracy. I do talk about that, when pinheads like you start trying to blame the war totally on Bush. But this mosque has absolutely nothing to do with Bush or Iraq, so why are you bringing them into this? Ahhh, wait... I get it!! So you can hopefully 'peel off' some opposition to the mosque, who will read that and think... oh, I don't want to be associated with the Bush Lovers, so I better change my mind on this! ...Like I said before, good luck with that!
Dixie - In Memoriam
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Again, it has NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS TOPIC!
It has been THROWN IN... to DIVERT... DISTRACT... pull everyone's attention AWAY from THE TOPIC! It has absolutely NOTHING to do with what is being discussed here, and the ONLY reason it is brought up, is because you are FAILING to make your argument on the TOPIC! Got that, Jarhead?