I think you miss the importance of the venue.
Obama has not said he belives this Mosque should be build in this spot...
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why do you ignore his other words?
he is saying it would be unamerican to not allow the mosque on hallowed ground...
You are misquoting him, use his words....
Now that is a point. What does the venue mean.
It is the place and audience to whom he was speaking. Oh... You mean how does where he was speaking reinforce some of the opinion that he was supporting the mosque?
Choosing to do it at an audience specifically of Muslims breaking the fast of Ramadan is significant in those that formed that opinion.
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no i am not you idiot
Yes, such an important venue that presently there is an abandoned Burlington Coat Factory there, while next door are an Amish Market and the Dakota Roadhouse, which is adjacent to an AT&T Device Support Center.
Such hallowed ground. It's up there with Arlington National Cemetery and the site of the Battle of Gettysburg.
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of course i do....don't forget i support the mosque being built there
why is it you can't see that he is saying that those who do not want the mosque there are unamerican?
I know what venue means, how does the specific venue in this instance change the meaning of his words?
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Obama said: "I understand the emotions that this issue engenders. Ground Zero is, indeed, hallowed ground."
Because that is not what he said.
You're entirely off. The venue in which the President was speaking, not where the mosque is going to be.
Again, I have no problem with the mosque at all. I just give them advice, the same advice I'd give to any group seeking tolerance among a populace...
There are people who clearly do have a problem with where this particular mosque would be, it would behoove them in the name of tolerance that they expect to have in return to place it in a different spot. Other than that I do not care. It doesn't hurt me at all... Even if they build an actual Mosque and name it "The Conquerers Mosque at Ground Zero" I still would not personally care.
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And? Did he say anything about the Dakota Roadhouse or Amish Market being "hallowed ground?"
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Hey, why don't you post what the President said so we can all see it. You probably should have done it ealier to help alleviate a lot of the confusion.
He did not say that.... Just no way did he say that... use his words, not your interpertation of what he ment. What he said was...
"Time and again, the American people have demonstrated that we can work through these issues, and stay true to our core values and emerge stronger for it. So it must be and will be today."
Honestly, I have no idea, but do you know how far along in the process they are?
It can take over a year to get the kinds of permits you need for this kind of venture, so what you're asking is no small thing in many cases (again, depending on how far along they are)
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its just funny how hard you try and make it out not to be hallowed ground when your dear leader disagrees with you
Its hard to prove a negative, they are saying he was cheerleading the mosque and saying that it should be built in the proposed cite...
I cant prove he did not say that, but they could prove he did, by giving us the quote.... and a cite...