Democratic Socialist Demands Free Housing

[Ross Dolan]

We are in disagreement there. Like it or not, guys like Bezos and Musk are what move progress and wealth for a great many, not everyone, but many, forward. Sure, they make billions. But there are lots of others that make hundreds of thousands to millions because of them. They don't profit in a vacuum where they're the only one making all the money.

Okay, let me ask you that question I said I would ask. (Actually, it is a few questions.) I've asked it of people who agree more with you than with me on this issue...AND NEVER HAVE GOTTEN A REPLY.

Predicate: Right now the top 1% of households own 31.7% of the nation's total wealth. The top 10% own 66.5% of the nation's total wealth. The bottom 50% own only 2 1/2% of the nation's wealth.

Question: At what point would the top 10% have to own before you consider it too much for a healthy situation? Would the top 10% owning 90% of the total wealth be okay with you? 95%? 99%?
Alternately, what at what point would the top 1% have to own before you consider it too much for a healthy situation? Would it be okay with you if the top 1% owned 95% of the nation's wealth?

By the way, TA...right now there are almost 1000 billionaires in America...and those slightly fewer than 1000 families own almost 5% of the total wealth of our nation.

Just sayin'.

Let's discuss why you feel the way you do...once we get an idea of where it would start to concern you.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Okay, let me ask you that question I said I would ask. (Actually, it is a few questions.) I've asked it of people who agree more with you than with me on this issue...AND NEVER HAVE GOTTEN A REPLY.

Predicate: Right now the top 1% of households own 31.7% of the nation's total wealth. The top 10% own 66.5% of the nation's total wealth. The bottom 50% own only 2 1/2% of the nation's wealth.

Question: At what point would the top 10% have to own before you consider it too much for a healthy situation? Would the top 10% owning 90% of the total wealth be okay with you? 95%? 99%?

That's making the question extreme. I'd say between 30 and 50% would be bad.

Alternately, what at what point would the top 1% have to own before you consider it too much for a healthy situation? Would it be okay with you if the top 1% owned 95% of the nation's wealth?

Again, 30 to 50% ownership.

By the way, TA...right now there are almost 1000 billionaires in America...and those slightly fewer than 1000 families own almost 5% of the total wealth of our nation.

Just sayin'.

Let's discuss why you feel the way you do...once we get an idea of where it would start to concern you.

I don't care that there are lots of billionaires. In fact, it's a good thing for the US that there are LOTS of billionaires. It would be far worse if there were just a few or one that had that kind of money.

 

[Ross Dolan]

That's making the question extreme. I'd say between 30 and 50% would be bad.

(This was in response to my top 10% question) I assume that means that if the top 10% owned over 30% of the nation's total wealth, there would be reason for serious concern...perhaps with consideration of doing something to stem it.

Well, TA...the top 10% ALREADY OWN more than fifty percent of the total wealth of the nation. The top 10% own over 67% of the total wealth of the US.

It already is a serious problem...demanding serious consideration...and demanding some kind of remediation.

Do you see that?

Again, 30 to 50% ownership.

(This was in response to my top 1% question) As I did above, I will assume you mean that if the top 1% owned over 30% of the total wealth of the nation...it would be reason for serious concern...and that steps might have to be taken to deal with it.

Well...the top 1% ALREADY own over 30% of the total wealth of the nation. They own almost 32% of the total wealth of our nation...and steadily growing. It already is a concern...it already is in need of remediation.

I don't care that there are lots of billionaires. In fact, it's a good thing for the US that there are LOTS of billionaires. It would be far worse if there were just a few or one that had that kind of money.

What we have, though, is almost 1000 individuals relentlessly pursuing the Holy Grail for rich people...The Title of The Richest Person in the Worldl.

We have a serious problem...I just wonder why more people are not concerned about it. I doubt we can ever stop people from getting as rich as they want...and like you, I truly have no problem with that...PROVIDING THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SUFFICIENT.

We have the means...because of those billions of slaves we have doing most of our work. Now all we have to do is find ways to distribute our bounty in a way that insures that everyone (including the lazy) has sufficient (or even a bit more than sufficient)...and then allow the people who want to work do so (via competition for jobs) so that they can have MORE.

It would be fine with me if everyone who manages to gain a job (after successfully competing with fellow humans and machines) at productivity...all became billionaires.

Forgetting for a second about the complexity of moving to a system that would allow for this...is there really something so terrible about it that we are not working toward it?

 

[Yakuda]

‘Squad’ Member Ayanna Pressley: ‘Eviction Is an Act of Violence,’ ‘Housing Is a Human Right’​

Rep. Ayanna Pressley (D-MA) says that her “HELP Act would give a lifeline to families facing eviction and vital resources during this time of crisis,” arguing that “housing is a human right” and that “evictions are an act of policy violence.”

‘Squad’ Member Ayanna Pressley Calls Eviction ' Act of Violence'

Rep. Ayanna Pressley says her HELP Act would give families facing eviction legal resources, arguing that “housing is a human right.”

www.breitbart.com

Next food will be a human right and they will demand they receive that free as well. Owning gun is a literal right but we have to jump through hoops for that right

 

[Yakuda]

(This was in response to my top 10% question) I assume that means that if the top 10% owned over 30% of the nation's total wealth, there would be reason for serious concern...perhaps with consideration of doing something to stem it.

Well, TA...the top 10% ALREADY OWN more than fifty percent of the total wealth of the nation. The top 10% own over 67% of the total wealth of the US.

It already is a serious problem...demanding serious consideration...and demanding some kind of remediation.

Do you see that?



(This was in response to my top 1% question) As I did above, I will assume you mean that if the top 1% owned over 30% of the total wealth of the nation...it would be reason for serious concern...and that steps might have to be taken to deal with it.

Well...the top 1% ALREADY own over 30% of the total wealth of the nation. They own almost 32% of the total wealth of our nation...and steadily growing. It already is a concern...it already is in need of remediation.



What we have, though, is almost 1000 individuals relentlessly pursuing the Holy Grail for rich people...The Title of The Richest Person in the Worldl.

We have a serious problem...I just wonder why more people are not concerned about it. I doubt we can ever stop people from getting as rich as they want...and like you, I truly have no problem with that...PROVIDING THAT EVERYONE ELSE HAS SUFFICIENT.

We have the means...because of those billions of slaves we have doing most of our work. Now all we have to do is find ways to distribute our bounty in a way that insures that everyone (including the lazy) has sufficient (or even a bit more than sufficient)...and then allow the people who want to work do so (via competition for jobs) so that they can have MORE.

It would be fine with me if everyone who manages to gain a job (after successfully competing with fellow humans and machines) at productivity...all became billionaires.

Forgetting for a second about the complexity of moving to a system that would allow for this...is there really something so terrible about it that we are not working toward it?

This has put a bug in your bonnet Francis

The top 10% own over 67% of the total wealth of the US.
tell us what you think should be done about it

 

[Yakuda]

Aside from her comment, WTF is going on with that face?

She looks like a simultaneous cross between a transvisite truck driver, and the prostitute who killed him.
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Freakazoid

 

[Taichiliberal]

A little clarification from the maga hysteria:

Housing as a Human Right - Ayanna Pressley for Congress

Safe, affordable housing is a fundamental human right, and a critical determinant of health outcomes, economic opportunity, and social mobility. But as rising housing costs dramatically outpace wages and the federal government systematically disinvests from public housing, safe, stable housing...

ayannapressley.com

 

[Ross Dolan]

This has put a bug in your bonnet Francis

The top 10% own over 67% of the total wealth of the US.
tell us what you think should be done about it

If you've been following the discussion, in effect, I already have.

We have got to adjust the system so that EVERYONE has sufficient...and then let whoever wants to fight over whatever profits can be made.

It is not an easy move. It is complex. But it can be done.

 

[Yakuda]

If you've been following the discussion, in effect, I already have.

We have got to adjust the system so that EVERYONE has sufficient...and then let whoever wants to fight over whatever profits can be made.

It is not an easy move. It is complex. But it can be done.

Has sufficient what? And who should decide that?

If someone puts in the time and money and they produce a good or a service that generates for them millions of dollars in revenue. Who should have a right to that profit? If any how much? What's the rubric for determining all this?

This sounds mostly like, you have more then me, it's not fair, I want some.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Has sufficient what?

Sufficient for a decent life.

And who should decide that?

Probably the Congress...with input from the people.

If someone puts in the time and money and they produce a good or a service that generates for them millions of dollars in revenue. Who should have a right to that profit?

Absent taxes...the person doing the production.

Why would you ask?

If any how much?

If "any" what? And...how much what?

What's the rubric for determining all this?

What the fuck is "all this?"

Do you know how to write a coherent sentence. If so...why not trying to write one for a change.

This sounds mostly like, you have more then me, it's not fair, I want some.

Only to a moron. I have more than enough for myself right now. I suspect I would be one of the people who would decline to accept any sort of "universal income" sort of thing. (Except for health insurance, which is like an anvil around my neck right now.)

So...ask your questions in a coherent way and I will answer them.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

A little clarification from the maga hysteria:

Housing as a Human Right - Ayanna Pressley for Congress

Safe, affordable housing is a fundamental human right, and a critical determinant of health outcomes, economic opportunity, and social mobility. But as rising housing costs dramatically outpace wages and the federal government systematically disinvests from public housing, safe, stable housing...

ayannapressley.com

Oh, so another 'tard on the Left in Congress speaks up. If housing is a "Right," how much is each person entitled to? Are some entitled to more than others? How do we pay for this "Right" since housing isn't free to construct or maintain? Who owns this housing and has control over it if it's a "Right?"

 

[Yakuda]

Sufficient for a decent life.


Probably the Congress...with input from the people.


Absent taxes...the person doing the production.

Why would you ask?




If "any" what? And...how much what?



What the fuck is "all this?"

Do you know how to write a coherent sentence. If so...why not trying to write one for a change.

Only to a moron. I have more than enough for myself right now. I suspect I would be one of the people who would decline to accept any sort of "universal income" sort of thing. (Except for health insurance, which is like an anvil around my neck right now.)

So...ask your questions in a coherent way and I will answer them.

What's a "decent life" Francis?

Why Congress Francis?

Was the person doing the production forced to take their job for the pay they receive? How much money did the person doing the production invest to create their job?

You can whine like the little bitch you are Francis but your going to have to do a much better job explaining why a filthy fuck like you is entitled a penny more of other people's money.

 

[Ross Dolan]

What's a "decent life" Francis?

You will never know, Yakuda. Never. And no one will ever be able to explain it to you.

Same thing goes for a happy, content life.

Too bad, that.

Why Congress Francis?

Why not?

Was the person doing the production forced to take their job for the pay they receive?

What person? What job? What the fuck are you raging on about?

How much money did the person doing the production invest to create their job?

What person? What job?

You can whine like the little bitch you are Francis but your going to have to do a much better job explaining why a filthy fuck like you is entitled a penny more of other people's money.

Awww...ran out of dumb questions, did you. You do not have the brains for this, Son. Stick to comic books and leave serious discussion to adults...and people with enough brainpower for it.

 

[Yakuda]

You will never know, Yakuda. Never. And no one will ever be able to explain it to you.

Same thing goes for a happy, content life.

Too bad, that.



Why not?



What person? What job? What the fuck are you raging on about?




What person? What job?




Awww...ran out of dumb questions, did you. You do not have the brains for this, Son. Stick to comic books and leave serious discussion to adults...and people with enough brainpower for it.

You're the one thats calling for a " decent" life but you can't tell me what it is. Figures

It's not for me to figure out since you claimed congress should decide. Ok tell me why. Answer the fucking questions.

You can't remember bet you said Francis? You said the "person doing the production" was entitled to the profits. I asked you how much that person invented to crest their job? Can you answer or not?

Why is any employee entitled to more money than they voluntarily agreed to work for? All you're doing is spouting leftist bullshit.

 

[Yakuda]

A little clarification from the maga hysteria:

Housing as a Human Right - Ayanna Pressley for Congress

Safe, affordable housing is a fundamental human right, and a critical determinant of health outcomes, economic opportunity, and social mobility. But as rising housing costs dramatically outpace wages and the federal government systematically disinvests from public housing, safe, stable housing...

ayannapressley.com

Who says it's a fundamental human right?

 

[Ross Dolan]

You're the one thats calling for a " decent" life but you can't tell me what it is. Figures

It's not for me to figure out since you claimed congress should decide. Ok tell me why. Answer the fucking questions.

You can't remember bet you said Francis? You said the "person doing the production" was entitled to the profits. I asked you how much that person invented to crest their job? Can you answer or not?

Why is any employee entitled to more money than they voluntarily agreed to work for? All you're doing is spouting leftist bullshit.

You expect me to solve what almost certainly is THE most perplexing problem ever to face humanity..or to enumerate the individual component factors and give commentary on how the are to be solved?

You truly are an A-list moron.

And you are such a slave to the Far right-wing and its bullshit that you have to have fundamentals explained to you.

YOU probably would be satisfied if 15 individuals eventually gain control over 99% of the total wealth of our nation...perhaps of the world...because you are a right-wing moron.

So let me answer your question the only way an intelligent person truly can: Go fuck yourself.



Any other question I can help you with, Moron?

 

[Ross Dolan]

Who says it's a fundamental human right?

Certainly not the scum of the American far-right.

 

[Yakuda]

You expect me to solve what almost certainly is THE most perplexing problem ever to face humanity..or to enumerate the individual component factors and give commentary on how the are to be solved?

You truly are an A-list moron.

And you are such a slave to the Far right-wing and its bullshit that you have to have fundamentals explained to you.

YOU probably would be satisfied if 15 individuals eventually gain control over 99% of the total wealth of our nation...perhaps of the world...because you are a right-wing moron.

So let me answer your question the only way an intelligent person truly can: Go fuck yourself.



Any other question I can help you with, Moron?

No I expect you to at least have an idea of what do about it if you're going to bitch like a little girl about it.

There are no question any leftist nitwit can help anyone with because you're a retard. Useless piece of shit

 

[Yakuda]

Certainly not the scum of the American far-right.

You're right because its not fuck face. A moral healthy society requires people with the ability to take care of themselves rather than ehime like twats because other people have more than they do.

Fact is dick mouth people who invest the most to create things whether a product or a service are entitled to the lions share of the profit. No one is required to work for an amount of money they find did satisfactory and whining the others have more than you is not a compelling argument.

 

[Ross Dolan]

No I expect you to at least have an idea of what do about it if you're going to bitch like a little girl about it.

Well, since I am not bitching about it like a little girl, you should have no expectations of me.

Anyway, I have lots of ideas about how to tackle it. Very complicated problem...with very complicated ideas about how best to proceed. Why would I waste time telling you about it since you are a moron?

There are no question any leftist nitwit can help anyone with because you're a retard. Useless piece of shit

Fuck you very much. Good to see your are paying attention.