Reagan insider: 'GOP destroyed U.S. economy'

Oh you're a twit. TR was a great President and the first truelly modern industrial age President. He took the US from being a second world nation and brought the nation into the world scene as a great world power. It was TR's progressive reforms that made the explosive growth of the middle class of this nation possible and if for no other thing TR is remembered for his influence on the construction and completion of the Panama Canal, one of the greatest human achievements in all of human history, he deserves to be considered GREAT for that feat alone.

If you don't see TR as one of the greatest men this nation has produced then your a silly little fool who doesn't know squat about American history. And by the way, almost all great men are assholes. Deal with it. :pke:

Teddy and Jefferson are two unique presidents, in that, as chief executives, they rank highly on my list. Jefferson abandoned his core principles and brought us the Louisianna Purchase, for example. Teddy actually did a phenomenal job as president, producing numerous reforms. Aside from his engagement in Panama, however, he actually failed to live up to one of his core philosophies, which is that war makes a nation stronger and builds its character and potential. He didn't manage to get us into war, and farcically earned a Nobel Peace Prize by negotiating an end to the Russo-Japanese War.

Nevertheless, TR was instrumental in manipulating the US into war in 1898, and the subsequent occupation of the Philippines. He was also a die-hard supporters of getting into WWI from the start. I don't consider the official recognition of world power status (which technically we had the potential for, if we were able to earn it on the battlefield so easily) as having justified the means or TR.
 
I would think that a guy who left the GOP because Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Bremer (and newcomer Cheney, who jump off of the realist/neocon fence on 9/11) managed to con Bush into invading Iraq would be at least somewhat apprehensive about Teddy...
 
I would think that a guy who left the GOP because Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Bremer (and newcomer Cheney, who jump off of the realist/neocon fence on 9/11) managed to con Bush into invading Iraq would be at least somewhat apprehensive about Teddy...

LOL! They somehow forced or tricked Bush into invading Iraq!! LOL!! I'm starting to think you are Toby from the old site.
Saying outrageous things when you are a kid will get you attention either good or bad, but saying outrageous things when you are supposed to be an adult will get you laughed/groaned at. Where do you get this stuff, Glenn Beck?
You are a brainwashed idiot.
 
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You should look at his list. It's hillareous. He considers TR and Jacson terrible presidents but the one man universally considered our worst President by profesional historians "Harding" is listed in his top ten. What a hoot! LOL
It amazes me at how little most people know about TR. Truly one of our greatest. Harding? The name sounds vaguely familiar. Didn't he invent the hot dog?
 
LOL! They somehow forced or tricked Bush into invading Iraq!! LOL!! I'm starting to think you are Toby from the old site.
Saying outrageous things when you are a kid will get you attention either good or bad, but saying outrageous things when you are supposed to be an adult will get you laughed/groaned at. Where do you get this stuff, Glenn Beck?
You are a brainwashed idiot.

All serious studies of the neocon movement, tracing its origins, its defeat at the hands of the realists (Powell, Scowcroft, Bush Sr., etc.) during the Gulf War, and its triumph after 9/11, consider Bush a tool. The fact is, you don't even have to consider him an idiot at all. On 9/10, Bush and Cheney both sat on the conservative fence, unsure whether their loyalties lied with the realists or the emerging neocons. The only prominent remaining realist from the Bush Sr. era was Powell. Wolfowitz and Bremer were back, and so was Rumsfeld, all with larger and more powerful positions than during the first round. On 9/11 Cheney immediately joined the neocon camp. This left Powell as the lone realist voice to be advising Bush, and he was unable to make a lone stand, so he ultimately caved and went along, as did pretty much everyone else.
 
Also, Crash, guys like Beck still support Bush and the neocon foreign policy. They ignore Bush Sr. (because he is silent, and won't be seen criticizing his son), but they have contempt for all of the other realists such as Scowcroft and Powell, both of whom have openly criticized them (Scowcroft directly, on TV, many times, and Powell indirectly by working with Dems). They view this history as inaccurate, condescending, and simply the old guard whining about losing out this time.
 
Most do disagree with me. I've been speaking out against the Dark Force that has grabbed control of the party since Nixon. We haven't had a Republican president since IKE.

China will soon own more of America than you. The Conservatives claim to fear a Commie takeover yet they are the ones who destroyed our economy...not the Commies!
hello and I agree!
 
It amazes me at how little most people know about TR. Truly one of our greatest. Harding? The name sounds vaguely familiar. Didn't he invent the hot dog?
That would be giving Harding far more credit then he's due. Harding did two things as President. He sat by, asleep at the wheel while his friends robed the treasury and he died.

The funny thing about 3D is that he makes these out landish comments on such spurious grounds. First he knows little or nothing about the Spanish American war or why it was in US interest to get a decayed Spanish colonial government out of our sphere of influence in both the Carribean and the Pacific and he forgets that TR was only the VP in 98 and didn't have much influence on McKinnley and he also seems to not get that TR was politically irrelevent when WWI commenced in Europe.

Now when you compere these moronic and spurious criticism about TR and then compare them to the long list of accomplishments from his conservation policies, to his breaking of the Trusts and Monopolies to his recognition of the rights of working people, to his commitment to building the Panama Canal to his negotiating an end to the Russo-Japanese war, and on and on and on you begin to see why I don't take 3D very seriously about Presidential History. He just likes to lob hand grenades by saying outrageous stuff with little or nothing to back it up.

Personally I think TR's greatest accomplishment is that he probably did more to spur the growth of the middle class in this nation then any other President.
 
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