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Welcome, besides having to dig through Legion's stupid troll posts, it's not that bad. Legion is currently pretending to be an Iranian extremist, so just ignore him, and you'll do fine.
Best English written by any goat fucking rag head I've ever heard of living in their own country.
 
I could take a motherfucking sledgehammer to a Tecumseh mower I used to have that gave me like.. blood blisters on my thumb n stuff.
Yeah, you had to prime the carb and crank it and maybe it would go, or not.
A higher percentage of NOT, that hunk of junk!
Made me my 1st outside money though.
FYI! Tecumseh didn't make lawn mowers !
 
What slavery and torture? Are you talking about the Incas and the Mayans? They are nothing that Columbus encountered. Columbus, as far as I remember, landed on what is today's San Salvador, as well as other areas in the West Indies. That's probably why they are called the West Indies. Slavery, etc was introduced to the islands by Europeans. I don't recall Columbus actually landing in what we physically know as America.
I am talking about what Columbus found. You should educate yourself with more than what you read from sources with a political agenda.
Bad day at the office, Damocletus?

Columbus is overrated.

However, the narrative surrounding the discovery of the Americas and the first European to arrive there remains controversial. While Columbus is commonly credited, historical records reveal pre-Columbian explorers such as the Vikings in America, notably Leif Erikson and Bjarni Herjólfsson, who established settlements like L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland (Vinland settlement) around the 11th century. This evidence underscores that America was discovered before Columbus, challenging traditional beliefs and myths about discovering America.

To add to the controversy, Columbus's navigational expertise, although commendable, was heavily influenced by earlier maritime exploration and knowledge. Notably, Columbus openly referenced a world map by his influential mentor, Paolo dal Pozzo Toscanelli, during his voyages. Paulo Toscanelli was famous for two 1474 letters to Christopher Columbus and Canon Martins Fernan Martinez de Roriz, King Alfonso of Portugal’s confessor at the Court in Lisbon, in which he advised them about reaching the Indies, suggesting a map for the journey. In these letters, Toscanelli told them that the earth was a sphere and that China could be reached by sailing west from Spain. Toscanelli wrote that Pope Eugenius IV received an ambassador from China and that he, Toscanelli, obtained this information from him and from “men of great learning” who came to Florence in the time of Eugenius IV. Yet in 1474, when Toscanelli wrote these letters, Europeans had not reached southern Africa and it was another eighteen years before Columbus set sail for the Americas.

Therefore, the question of who really discovered America is complex, reflecting numerous unexplained early voyages to America and ongoing controversies about who explored America first. Columbus's achievements built upon pre-existing maritime knowledge and earlier European explorers' experiences, thus illustrating the collective nature of the Age of Exploration.
 
Lets pretend millions weren't murdered by the European invaders
Although many were killed by the Euros, and some intentionally infected, 90% of Native American deaths were from contact with nasty diseases imported from Europe...which, in turn, had imported them from Africa or the Far East.

The Black Death killed as many Euros as Euro diseases killed Native Americans;
The Black Death was a plague pandemic that devastated medieval Europe from 1347 to 1352. The Black Death killed an estimated 25-30 million people. The disease originated in central Asia and was taken to the Crimea by Mongol warriors and traders.


The Story Of... Smallpox – and other Deadly Eurasian Germs

Much of the credit for European military success in the New World can be handed to the superiority of their weapons, their literary heritage, even the fact they had unique load-bearing mammals, like horses. These factors combined, gave the conquistadors a massive advantage over the sophisticated civilisations of the Aztec and Inca empires.

But weapons alone can't account for the breathtaking speed with which the indigenous population of the New World were completely wiped out.

Within just a few generations, the continents of the Americas were virtually emptied of their native inhabitants – some academics estimate that approximately 20 million people may have died in the years following the European invasion – up to 95% of the population of the Americas....

...When the Europeans arrived, carrying germs which thrived in dense, semi-urban populations, the indigenous people of the Americas were effectively doomed. They had never experienced smallpox, measles or flu before, and the viruses tore through the continent, killing an estimated 90% of Native Americans.

Smallpox is believed to have arrived in the Americas in 1520 on a Spanish ship sailing from Cuba, carried by an infected African slave. As soon as the party landed in Mexico, the infection began its deadly voyage through the continent. Even before the arrival of Pizarro, smallpox had already devastated the Inca Empire, killing the Emperor Huayna Capac and unleashing a bitter civil war that distracted and weakened his successor, Atahuallpa.

In the era of global conquest which followed, European colonizers were assisted around the world by the germs which they carried. A 1713 smallpox epidemic in the Cape of Good Hope decimated the South African Khoi San people, rendering them incapable of resisting the process of colonization. European germs also wreaked devastation on the aboriginal communities of Australia and New Zealand.


More victims of colonization were killed by Eurasian germs, than by either the gun or the sword, making germs the deadliest agent of conquest.
 
You do not like the response and therefore do not care to learn. This is not a history website, it is political and I have no responsibility to teach you a thing about it. I already talked about what he found when he got here, it was not all the Taino, there was conquest, slavery and cannibalism among the native populations before he got here and observed by others in that time...

Read more, do better and, like you would suggest to the right wing "nut jobs", educate yourself.

Or you can just be ignorant and maintain a belief that Columbus was "bad mm'kay" because you want to believe that the society that was built here is bad. I do not care to become your history teacher.
Wow. That explains why all the MAGA morons and other enemies of the Constitution don't know shit about history. :rofl2: :ROFLMAO: :rofl2:

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Slavery and torture were the Spaniards' gig, along with genocide. That's not to say the new world was a garden of Eden. It was populated by humans with all the flaws and virtues we have.
The Brits were big on indentured servitude...especially for "lesser races" like the Irish and the Scots. Agreed the New World wasn't any different when it came to assholes-in-charge. They had wars, slaves and torture. Humans being humans.
 
Slavery and torture were the Spaniards' gig, along with genocide. That's not to say the new world was a garden of Eden. It was populated by humans with all the flaws and virtues we have.
Damo couldn't explain what slavery and torture he was talking about among Native Americans. I know there were some tribal conflicts but slavery and torture weren't part of it. He then took exception when I said Columbus discovered the West Indies and might not have landed in America. He said I need to stop partaking in politically biased sources. I guess I'll have to tell those textbook writers and internet historians that they aren't white-washing enough of American history.
 
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