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As I pointed out on another thread, dumbass, Hitler hated Christianity, and wished Germany could have subscribed to a more warlike religion. He also resented Nazi paganism, so he was difficult to please...
Muslims are not the enemy
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As I pointed out on another thread, dumbass, Hitler hated Christianity, and wished Germany could have subscribed to a more warlike religion. He also resented Nazi paganism, so he was difficult to please...
Annie
Not So Junior Member
Where did I say anything like you are accusing about Islam?
You're right; I'm glad I didn't wait. Because I didn't "demonize Christians on a myriad of points," and I think you realized that you were wrong to accuse me of such.
I didn't expect you to admit it.
And the vast majority of Muslims denounce Al Qaeda & their actions.
That's the point.
One of you conservatives will get it eventually.
Annie
Not So Junior Member
Nope, you just imply that Christians are against gays, bomb abortion clinics, are anti-science, etc. That one infers from that that you have a problem with Christians, well excuse me.
Now if you wish to say a problem with some, a small number of evangelicals or some Opus Dei type Catholics? Well that is a different kettle of fish. That any of these represent Christianity? Hardly.
Where?
The vast majority of muslims consider al qaeda to be criminals who are un-islamic thugs.
Just like most Christians reject the KKK as un-christian racist assholes.
Get it?
Muslims from Across the Planet Condemn Terrorist Attacks
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=693134&postcount=60
I’m on record making no distinction between religions – the overwhelming majority of Christians, muslims, and jews are normal, law-abiding people.
http://www.justplainpolitics.com/showpost.php?p=693065&postcount=33
Can you make the same claim? You seem more prone to drawing shades of distinction, or being a cheerleader for posters who appear to be under the impression that muslims are several shades of gray more “evil” than christians.
Also, since you didn't even know that the KKK considered themselves christian, and you somehow thought they were wizard-worshipping pagans, I doubt your knowledge and assumptions about which religions condones more violent acts or immorality can be trusted to be accurate.
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Annie
Not So Junior Member
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1486/survey-muslim-nations-middle-east-political-leaders-hamas-hezbollah
Violence as means to end:
Violence as means to end:
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1486/survey-muslim-nations-middle-east-political-leaders-hamas-hezbollah
Violence as means to end:
gimme the link.
Because I'll bet you've been trolling anti-muslim websites, whom misrepresent polls. You're quite the tolerant one, aren't you?
I've seen those polls. And I know what they mean, and what they're acutually measuring. So give me your link
ummm....your poll isn't about al qaeda either.
Hamas, and Hezbollah are political entities, with nationalist agendas. A lot of muslims agree with their political goals, if not with their violence. And there's a lot of death and killing on both sides between arabs and jews, so you can find polls of israelis who agree with treating arabs like subhumans, too.
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Well that was a freaking waste of time. I went to the actual pew report, and there was nothing about muslims supporting attacks of terrorism against civilians. It was about their political views.
Why did you waste my time Annie?
Hamas, and Hezbollah are political entities, with nationalist agendas. A lot of muslims agree with their political goals, if not with their violence. And there's a lot of death and killing on both sides between arabs and jews, so you can find polls of israelis who agree with treating arabs like subhumans, too.
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Well that was a freaking waste of time. I went to the actual pew report, and there was nothing about muslims supporting attacks of terrorism against civilians. It was about their political views.
Why did you waste my time Annie?
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There are hundreds, if not thousands of Islamic terrorist groups all over the world.....Europe, Africa, Middle East, North and South America, Asia, etc.......you act like Al Qaeda is the be all and end all of crazy fuckin' Muslims....
They are but a small faction of the total of fanatic Muslims worldwide and ALL of them have one thing in common....kill the infidels...kill the Westerners..Jihad and go get those 72 virgins....
Are you ever gonna 'get it'...?
If you remove al qaeda from the equation, then almost all the terrorist acts committed in america have been perpetrated by domestic terrorists. Rightwing terrorists usually.
Hezbollah and Hamas have never committed an attack in america, and they've never announced or demonstrated any intention of doing so. Their goals are nationalist and regional. Lebanon, west bank, etc. They really don't give a shit about what goes on in Kansas City.
There's plenty of terrorist groups in africa, who claim to be christian. Are you saying we should fear christianity because of some whacked out christian african groups?
Annie
Not So Junior Member
I did, it was Pew.
yes, and I'm sorry I somehow missed the link.
My response is you totally wasted my time, as in my responses above.
Why did you do that, and what is it about muslims that led you to mislead me on a poll that had nothing to do with al qaeda, or with terrorist attacks against civilians?
Do you just assume muslims are evil?
Really? Guess they don't make the news much, huh?
Why do you have to limit it to America....thousands are killed and maimed all over the world by terrorists....and the VAST majority of them are Islamic Muslim crazies....so whats you point?
Annie
Not So Junior Member
http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1683/pa...ca-image-poor-india-threat-support-harsh-laws
Again guys, one needs to look at the mindset of those claiming to be adherents of the religion.
Pew is one of the few pollsters that attempts to get the feeling of Muslim countries. This may well be something that doesn't work there. I really don't know.
I do know that when the majority of Mosques in the US are preaching tolerance, we'll all be better off. That would include those backing the controversial mosque where they claim to want to build bridges with others. Changing the site, while not required, would go a long ways to doing so.
Again guys, one needs to look at the mindset of those claiming to be adherents of the religion.
Pew is one of the few pollsters that attempts to get the feeling of Muslim countries. This may well be something that doesn't work there. I really don't know.
I do know that when the majority of Mosques in the US are preaching tolerance, we'll all be better off. That would include those backing the controversial mosque where they claim to want to build bridges with others. Changing the site, while not required, would go a long ways to doing so.
Annie
Not So Junior Member
Never said Muslims were evil, I wouldn't. Now how about you all find something that backs up your claims that the 'vast majority' of Muslims are against al Qaeda and terror in general?
You have come down on this thread on the side of those who are saying all Muslims are evil. Did you realize that?
You didn't seem to have a hard time w/ their words at all. Instead, you attack my alleged demonizing of Christianity, which doesn't exist at all.
Annie
Not So Junior Member
LOL! I never did. My lack of rising to your inane 'challenge' doesn't make it less true. Yeah, Maineman had a problem with that too.