A newly extended deadline….

Teflon Don said:
So tell us. If Iran didn't posses the technology for a nuclear weapon, then what exactly was Obama trying to stop? Why did he give them billions of dollars to stop something you say they couldn't do? Don't duck
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No need to duck when we have posted on the White HOuse web site Trumps statement on how he ENDED any lingering threat from administrations who proceeded him (Obama or Biden or other) via his 'OBLITERATION" of their nuclear facility last year buying the world MANY YEARS where Iran could not pose a nuclear threat.




“...The devastating US strike on Fordo destroyed the site’s critical infrastructure and rendered the enrichment facility inoperable. We assess that the American strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities, combined with Israeli strikes on other elements of Iran’s military nuclear program, has set back Iran’s ability to develop nuclear weapons by many years..."
 
QP! said:
Trump is asking for an increase of over 40% on the military budget, with the cuts coming out of domestic spending including Veteran care, and mortgage assistance help. AMERICA FIRST!

He is also talking about bombing iran infrastructure (roads, bridges, rail lines, power plants) back to the stone ages, and then America going back in to rebuild them, which Trump says will be very expensive. AMERICA FIRST!!!
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Never talks about taxing the wealthy and corporations. He works for them.
 
Jarod said:
I really hope so. Does that include taking Hormuz back?
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Hormuz will stay closed for as long as Iran wants it to be. Trump can commit as many war crimes as he is able but as long as Iran has drones scattered around their mountains, they'll keep the Strait closed by launching one or three a week against ships attempting to transit. Insurance companies won't take the risk without compensation. The cost of the tankers themselves is below but doesn't include the cost of the cargo. A 100K DWT tanker can carry about a million barrels of oil. At $100/barrel that's $100M.


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Oil tanker - Wikipedia

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In 2005, the price for new oil tankers in the 32,000–45,000 DWT, 80,000–105,000 DWT, and 250,000–280,000 DWT ranges were $43 million, $58 million, and $120 million respectively.[84] In 1985 these vessels would have cost $18 million, $22 million, and $47 million respectively.[84]

Oil tankers are often sold second hand. In 2005, 27.3 million DWT worth of oil tankers were sold used.[85] Some representative prices for that year include $42.5 million for a 40,000 DWT tanker, $60.7 million for a 80,000–95,000 DWT, $73 million for a 130,000–150,000 DWT, and $116 million for 250,000–280,000 DWT tanker.[85] For a concrete example, in 2006, Bonheur subsidiary First Olsen paid $76.5 million for Knock Sheen, a 159,899 DWT tanker.[86]

The cost of operating the largest tankers, the Very Large Crude Carriers, is currently between $10,000 and $12,000 per day.

Strait of Hormuz - Types of Tankers - The Strauss Center

Oil tankers are loosely classified based on their carrying capacity in deadweight tons (DWT), which is the total weight of the ship (including cargo, crew, provisions, etc.) minus the weight of the ship if it were empty. It is likely that attackers would focus on the largest tankers to maximize…
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Teflon Don said:
So tell us. If Iran didn't posses the technology for a nuclear weapon, then what exactly was Obama trying to stop? Why did he give them billions of dollars to stop something you say they couldn't do? Don't duck
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Obama was trying to stop them from creating the technology and materials for a nuclear weapon and if they had that technology from using it.
 
Teflon Don said:
So tell us. If Iran didn't posses the technology for a nuclear weapon, then what exactly was Obama trying to stop? Why did he give them billions of dollars to stop something you say they couldn't do? Don't duck
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It's a lie to claim Obama gave the Iranians billions of American tax dollars. Worse are the MAGA morons advocating watching hundreds of billions of American tax dollars literally go up in smoke.

The Facts: The money that Iran receives from complying with the agreement is not a direct payment from the U.S. government. Instead, the funds are Iranian foreign assets, which the international sanctions regime prevented Iran from accessing. Under the JCPOA, these nuclear-related sanctions were waived after Iran verifiably completed its initial obligations.

The $150 billion figure is also inaccurate. The amount of money Iran could access from these foreign reserves is about $100 billion. Of this amount, about half of it is tied up in Iranian foreign debts. As Treasury Secretary, Jacob Lew, testified before Congress, the actual amount that Iran would be able to use is about $50 billion.
 
Jarod said:
Obama was trying to stop them from creating the technology and materials for a nuclear weapon and if they had that technology from using it.
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you said pretty forcefully that they DIDN'T possess the technology so there should have been nothing for Obama to try to prevent.

I will enjoy watching you twist yourself in knots trying to explain it.

You can't have it both ways Veruca
 
QP! said:
No need to duck when we have posted on the White HOuse web site Trumps statement on how he ENDED any lingering threat from administrations who proceeded him (Obama or Biden or other) via his 'OBLITERATION" of their nuclear facility last year buying the world MANY YEARS where Iran could not pose a nuclear threat.




“...The devastating US strike on Fordo destroyed the site’s critical infrastructure and rendered the enrichment facility inoperable. We assess that the American strikes on Iran’s nuclear facilities, combined with Israeli strikes on other elements of Iran’s military nuclear program, has set back Iran’s ability to develop nuclear weapons by many years..."
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According to Veruca there was never a threat so Obama didn't need to have to try to bribe them, yet he did.
 
Jarod said:
He should not have issued such threats. That was stupid.
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Completely irrelevant not my point and you're avoidance of it proves I'm right. It doesn't matter what trump does you little bitches will whine so he might as well just do whatever the fuck he pleases.
 
Jarod said:
How many times is “the great negotiator” going to back down?

Now they have until tomorrow?


Will he back down got a third or fourth time?
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Oh look, Fake Lawyer is failing to relate the story accurately, as always...

They have until 8:00 PM EST tonight - always have.

That has always been "tomorrow" in Iran. Such a pathetic lie you're telling.

Meanwhile your side is doing this;

nypost.com

Iran’s youth form human chains around power plants after Trump warns of ‘complete demolition’

Iran called on its youth Tuesday to form human chains around its power plants – after President Trump threatened to decimate the Islamic Republic’s energy infrastructure if it fails to reopen the S…
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