Dear Chili of TLC

[Nomad]

But why would the govt "the taxpayer" have to pay for someone elses childrens day care ? Did the govt have sex with that woman? Did they choose to have unprotected sex with that woman ? Nope,....sure didn't. I have a real novel idea,....how about the two people who made the child pay for the kids child care ? If people do not want to pay for that care then there is a real easy solution,....don't have unprotected sex and expect the government to pay for YOURE FUN. Its called being a responsible adult instead of a leech on society. Have as many kids as you want in my book,...but YOU PAY FOR THEM.

1) They're CHILDREN ya stupid Magger. Civilized human beings don't let children go hungry or otherwise uncared for. But of course, you not being a civilized human being, don't get it.

2) Shoulda, coulda, woulda is never an answer for anything. Once something is, it is. Talking about who should or should not have done this or that is childish, immature and stupid. These children are alive and they exist and they're human, so they need what humans need to stay alive and grow up healthy and not a medical burden on the health care system.

In the future, please try to approach issues like a rational adult.

 

[Nomad]

That doesn't make any sense. It also has nothing to do with what I said. People NEED/ have to be responsible for they're own actions. The only way to get them to be that way is to stop taking care of everything for them and force them to take responsibility. It shouldn't be that way,...I mean,...this is DAY ONE stuff here,....they should ALREADY KNOW these things but a lot don't for some CRAZY reason. Either that or they simply don't GAF.

Try to keep in mind that we're talking about CHILDREN here.

CHILDREN have no say in the matter.

Get it?

 

[Stone]

Try to keep in mind that we're talking about CHILDREN here.

CHILDREN have no say in the matter.

Get it?

I am keeping them in mind. This isn't about food or shelter but about day care. I don't want children to suffer,....EVER. IMO some of these kids that are growing up under parents who treat them as a source of INCOME should probably be removed from the home and given to a family to adopt as they're own so they can get the upbringing they deserve. There are a ton of people who would love to adopt a child and love him or her as they would they're own.

 

[tigerred59]

I get where you are going and for the most part I TOTALLY agree with you. WE THE PEOPLE are totally fed up with being sucked dry from up above AND from below. We only got but TWO TITS or Im sure the bastards would figure out a way to suck another one dry if we had one !

Stop the press, hold the headlines, Stone finally is agreeing with the Tiger....LOL. Listen, have a blessed weekend and lets all give praise to our Lord and Savior and our thanks for his dying on the cross for us this up coming Easter Sunday.

 

[Stone]

Point blank.......if people treat kids as a source of income they do not deserve to have them. You kill multiple birds with one stone by having The kids adopted by people who actually care. First.......you help THE KID, which should always be priority one. Second,......you remove the income source from the scumbaggy parents. Now its all on them...get off your ass and work or slowly starve because this whole lifestyle of living off of KIDS is coming to an end. As it SHOULD. Mark my words,...in the very near future just that will happen. Why? Because it HAS To happen because it is better for all parties involved.

 

[tigerred59]

Try to keep in mind that we're talking about CHILDREN here.

CHILDREN have no say in the matter.

Get it?

Next to housing and food, day care expense takes more out of paychecks than anything. I had two in diapers, with no subsidies back in the 80's helping me and I was literally working for the Day care ppl, than my own job. I literally had to quit my job and I was getting child support for all you damn haters and go on welfare until my kids were old enough for Head Start. You pay these ppl daycare if your off from work, if holidays come up, I mean they get their money no matter what. So any help the gov. provides is a blessing, cause the money I lost from not working, tax payers ended up paying for it anyways.

 

[Stone]

Stop the press, hold the headlines, Stone finally is agreeing with the Tiger....LOL. Listen, have a blessed weekend and lets all give praise to our Lord and Savior and our thanks for his dying on the cross for us this up coming Easter Sunday.

Absolutely. I agree whole heartedly on everything you said in this post. And BTW,....I actually agree with you a lot more than you think I do on a lot of different matters!

 

[tigerred59]

Chicken is good. Not much pork for me though. Maybe a little bacon and breakfast sausage,...other than that I don't eat it.

I simply can not afford red meats period. Starting with fatty hamburger meats to the roasts etc. Its only til that shit turns a light shade of greyish brown that these stores want to lower prices. But then, its too late and yes, they do try to sell that shit in black communities...its call "buy today, freeze 2mar" specials. The good news in all this, finally thanks to Trumps tariffs, our cattle farmers are making a mint with all this. Combine that with the welfare checks the non cattle farmers are making, you don't hear shit from these welfare motherfuckers no mo...WHITE FARMERS ARE FINALLY HAPPY

 

[tigerred59]

Absolutely. I agree whole heartedly on everything you said in this post. And BTW,....I actually agree with you a lot more than you think I do on a lot of different matters!

Same here Stone, if the shit makes sense, than I wholeheartedly am on board with co signing. But I'll give ya hell when stupid shit starts a comin. Again, do have a blessed sacred weekend, God is so mighty and forgiving.

 

[Diesel]

My convictions are too strong for me. I don't fuck with Walmart because they're anti Union, I hate all Clint Eastwood and James Stewart movies, all of which I use to love, until I found them to be racist actors and TLC and Snoop etc, I won't fuck with them anymore. There's a reason the sayings all go, EVERYTHING TRUMP TOUCHES TURNS TO SHIT. Best selling female group of all times is now tainted by Chili and her support of a Nazi regime. I chose to stand for something rather than fall for Nazi bullshit, I suggest we all do the same

Well, you're calling her a liar. I'm not willing to go that far.

 

[tigerred59]

That doesn't make any sense. It also has nothing to do with what I said. People NEED/ have to be responsible for they're own actions. The only way to get them to be that way is to stop taking care of everything for them and force them to take responsibility. It shouldn't be that way,...I mean,...this is DAY ONE stuff here,....they should ALREADY KNOW these things but a lot don't for some CRAZY reason. Either that or they simply don't GAF.

You can't have your cake and eat it too....this country business community refuses to provide a livable wage to its workers. This country's citizens are tired of welfare mom's and want them to work and for the vast majority of black women in this country, a huge sloth do in fact work, but in low skilled service jobs provided the immigrants haven't taken over those too. Day care costs are extremely expensive and just as white farmers need subsidy help from the gov. so do hard working mom's with day care. White farmers are now just sitting on their white ass'es getting welfare checks, mom's are out here working.

 

[tigerred59]

Well, you're calling her a liar. I'm not willing to go that far.

Everything in life, has a pivoting point of which to chose...so to each his own. By the way D, please have a blessed Easter Sunday and give God all the glory and love for the gift of atonement and forgiveness this day provides.

 

[Nomad]

I am keeping them in mind. This isn't about food or shelter but about day care. I don't want children to suffer,....EVER. IMO some of these kids that are growing up under parents who treat them as a source of INCOME should probably be removed from the home and given to a family to adopt as they're own so they can get the upbringing they deserve. There are a ton of people who would love to adopt a child and love him or her as they would they're own.

How are their parents supposed to work if their kids have no daycare?

The only choice is to either pay them welfare or watch their kids while they work.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda is no solution.

 

[Diesel]

Everything in life, has a pivoting point of which to chose...so to each his own. By the way D, please have a blessed Easter Sunday and give God all the glory and love for the gift of atonement and forgiveness this day provides.

Same to you

 

[Stone]

The only choice is to either pay them welfare or watch their kids while they work.

Shoulda, coulda, woulda is no solution.

How did people Do it for decades? They figured it out. They asked family,...sometimes multiple family members if that's what it took. People just found a way to make it work. What one person can do so can another. And its good for a person too. STRUGGLE IS GOOD! It is what shapes a person. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. It also gives you a real appreciation of what YOU DO HAVE. Tell ya what......and this is just me being honest....If I had the power to unwind the clock back to 1955 or so where women worked because THEY CHOSE to and not because they HAVE TO like they do today,...I would do it on a heart beat. I think we end up with a much better society and better economy. I think a lot of modern women would even agree with me to be honest. We have gone sooooooooooooo far astray from the way things SHOULD BE.

 

[Nomad]

How did people Do it for decades? They figured it out. They asked family,...sometimes multiple family members if that's what it took. People just found a way to make it work. What one person can do so can another. And its good for a person too. STRUGGLE IS GOOD! It is what shapes a person. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. It also gives you a real appreciation of what YOU DO HAVE. Tell ya what......and this is just me being honest....If I had the power to unwind the clock back to 1955 or so where women worked because THEY CHOSE to and not because they HAVE TO like they do today,...I would do it on a heart beat. I think we end up with a much better society and better economy. I think a lot of modern women would even agree with me to be honest. We have gone sooooooooooooo far astray from the way things SHOULD BE.

People weren't paying $1,800 per month rent for an apartment back then, either. The average price of an automobile was not $50,000 back then. Even used cars cost around $25, 000.

Life is tougher these days. People have expenses nobody dreamed of when you're talking about.

Nobody can get by without Internet service which costs $70 a month stand alone. In order to get it cheaper it must be bundled with cable and cell phone. Three things which nobody can realistically do without anymore.

Insurance is sky high thanks to litigation and severe weather events, many related to climate change.

Thanks to trump, gas will likely be over $5 gallon soon and may never go back down.

It's easy to talk about standing up and facing hardship, but when you start digging into the details, the reality becomes clear.

 

[Stone]

People weren't paying $1,800 per month rent for an apartment back then, either. The average price of an automobile was not $50,000 back then. Even used cars cost around $25, 000.

Life is tougher these days. People have expenses nobody dreamed of when you're talking about.

Nobody can get by without Internet service which costs $70 a month stand alone. In order to get it cheaper it must be bundled with cable and cell phone. Three things which nobody can realistically do without anymore.

Insurance is sky high thanks to litigation and severe weather events, many related to climate change.

Thanks to trump, gas will likely be over $5 gallon soon and may never go back down.

It's easy to talk about standing up and facing hardship, but when you start digging into the details, the reality becomes clear.

I agree with you on a lot of what you are saying. Gotta get it fixed,...but we have to do it the right way which is open to debate. A lot of our youth have become completely disillusioned in the last 15-20 years. They see working hard as totally pointless because no matter how hard they work they just wont ever be able to GET THERE. That HAS TO change. Somehow we have to make the DREAM seem attainable to them again,....and not just SEEM attainable but BE attainable. A lot of these kids watched they're parents lose the homes they lived in to the crash of 08 and what followed even though they're parents both worked hard. That left a mark on those kids...BIGTIME. I think we need to start out by teaching them to go back to the BASICS. Meaning buying only what you NEED Vrs buying what you WANT. The getting whatryou want comes a little later....IF you persevere.

 

[Stone]

Here is what I would say to the youth of America,....I would stay with the basics. 1....Do not run a foul of the law. 2...stay away from drugs and alcohol,...YEP...even weed,...it's terribly mentally addicting, 3...Go get the RIGHT education instead of a near worthless degree,..4.Stay out of debt as much as possible, 5. do not have any kids out of wedlock and 6..for sure even if you are married do not have any until you are at least financially secure,....7. SAVE as much money as possible even if it means living well below your means,....8..work hard. 9...Dont be a job hopper,....you cant build anything that way, 10....keep your eye on the ball and your stick on the ice, don't lose sight of your goals.

 

[Nomad]

I agree with you on a lot of what you are saying. Gotta get it fixed,...but we have to do it the right way which is open to debate. A lot of our youth have become completely disillusioned in the last 15-20 years. They see working hard as totally pointless because no matter how hard they work they just wont ever be able to GET THERE. That HAS TO change. Somehow we have to make the DREAM seem attainable to them again,....and not just SEEM attainable but BE attainable. A lot of these kids watched they're parents lose the homes they lived in to the crash of 08 and what followed even though they're parents both worked hard. That left a mark on those kids...BIGTIME. I think we need to start out by teaching them to go back to the BASICS. Meaning buying only what you NEED Vrs buying what you WANT. The getting whatryou want comes a little later....IF you persevere.

Yes, that would help to a certain degree. I have argued in favor of that myself. Moving in with roommates rather than trying to afford a place of one's own. Not going out to clubs and partying on weekends. Not eating at restaurants. All things I have advocated to young people complaining about not being paid enough.

And for single people with no kids, those things might actually make a difference.

But for people with kids, some help is needed.

Obviously my aforementioned advice included holding off starting a family until you're established. But try telling that to young couples in the heat of romance. A woman cries "I want a baby!!!" ... and what's a man to do... trust his wife to not "accidentally" get pregnant? Wear a condom? Take a cold shower? These are things much easier said than done.

The point is that children happen. And when they do, our society and the courts, have determined that their welfare is the #1 most important focus before anything and everything else.

Coulda, shoulda, woulda does nothing.

And if we are going to be the family values society we claim to be, we have to bite the bullet and help families succeed.

Some realities are just not easy to accept but we have to anyway.

 

[Stone]

Yes, that would help to a certain degree. I have argued in favor of that myself. Moving in with roommates rather than trying to afford a place of one's own. Not going out to clubs and partying on weekends. Not eating at restaurants. All things I have advocated to young people complaining about not being paid enough.

And for single people with no kids, those things might actually make a difference.

But for people with kids, some help is needed.

Obviously my aforementioned advice included holding off starting a family until you're established. But try telling that to young couples in the heat of romance. A woman cries "I want a baby!!!" ... and what's a man to do... trust his wife to not "accidentally" get pregnant? Wear a condom? Take a cold shower? These are things much easier said than done.

The point is that children happen. And when they do, our society and the courts, have determined that their welfare is the #1 most important focus before anything and everything else.

Coulda, shoulda, woulda does nothing.

And if we are going to be the family values society we claim to be, we have to bite the bullet and help families succeed.

Some realities are just not easy to accept but we have to anyway.

I wish there was a way to give this post a HALF thumbs up....Hey,...better than a thumbs DOWN!