I love when reality slaps marxists

[Guno צְבִי]

Love it!!! the MAGAt boneheads wouldn't know shit from shinola about Marx, much less Engles

 

[Taichiliberal]

What was stated:

So you jump to another accusation when you can't prove the first one

That attacks me rather than the argument I presented. That is ad hominem.

Nothing is sadder than an ignorant man who is stubbornly proud of it. Here's the REAL definition. Now, entertain us all by trying to explain how that fits into Post #16, or 24 or 27 or 36.

Per Merriam-Webster:

Ad Hominem
- appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect
- marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made

Voting with your feet. It's a thing.

Blathering MAGA talking points like a dumb parrot (with apologies to real parrots) seems to be a thing for people like you. I say this because your Cheeto Jeezus and his congressional minions were elected to office(s) using the very system they are now wailing is incredibly corrupt. Get the picture now, gumby?

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Nothing is sadder than an ignorant man who is stubbornly proud of it. Here's the REAL definition. Now, entertain us all by trying to explain how that fits into Post #16, or 24 or 27 or 36.

Per Merriam-Webster:

Ad Hominem
- appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect
- marked by or being an attack on an opponent's character rather than by an answer to the contentions made


Blathering MAGA talking points like a dumb parrot (with apologies to real parrots) seems to be a thing for people like you. I say this because your Cheeto Jeezus and his congressional minions were elected to office(s) using the very system they are now wailing is incredibly corrupt. Get the picture now, gumby?

That definition is wrong. Ad hominem is an attack as rebuttal on your opponent rather than a reasoned rebuttal at its base. The example I gave above explains it quite succinctly.

Merriam-Webster's first definition is an Appeal to pity or emotion, not ad hominem. The second is an irrelevant difference in a response to someone's argument. The basis of ad hominem is attacking your opponent using insults etc., as the basis for your argument.

Thus:

Ad hominem:

Your position is stupid because you are stupid.

Insult:

Your position is stupid. You are stupid.

 

[Taichiliberal]

That definition is wrong. Ad hominem is an attack as rebuttal on your opponent rather than a reasoned rebuttal at its base. The example I gave above explains it quite succinctly.

Merriam-Webster's first definition is an Appeal to pity or emotion, not ad hominem. The second is an irrelevant difference in a response to someone's argument. The basis of ad hominem is attacking your opponent using insults etc., as the basis for your argument.

Thus:

Ad hominem:

Your position is stupid because you are stupid.

Insult:

Your position is stupid. You are stupid.

Okay dear readers, you just read for yourself that one of the premier MAGA folk on this site has decreed that Merriam-Webster .... a 95 year old main stay of defining the words of our language in America is WRONG BY HIS PERSONAL IDEA OF WHAT THE DEFINITION IS AND HOW IT SHOULD BE APPLIED.

I kid you not. Read his first sentence.

When Maga/Alt-Right clowns like T.A. spout absurdities like this, I know any attempt at a debate/discussion based in reality, facts and logic is impossible. So rather than waste more time and space, I just dump their silly assed on the "ignore" list for a month or so. Great thing about this site now is that when I do this, I can't see anything he posts, whether to me or others .... not even his threads.

Ahhh, peace!

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Okay dear readers, you just read for yourself that one of the premier MAGA folk on this site has decreed that Merriam-Webster .... a 95 year old main stay of defining the words of our language in America is WRONG BY HIS PERSONAL IDEA OF WHAT THE DEFINITION IS AND HOW IT SHOULD BE APPLIED.

I kid you not. Read his first sentence.

When Maga/Alt-Right clowns like T.A. spout absurdities like this, I know any attempt at a debate/discussion based in reality, facts and logic is impossible. So rather than waste more time and space, I just dump their silly assed on the "ignore" list for a month or so. Great thing about this site now is that when I do this, I can't see anything he posts, whether to me or others .... not even his threads.

Ahhh, peace!

Irrelevant appeal to authority on your part now. Webster is hardly the be-all, end-all of defining what a logical fallacy is.

 

[Jake Starkey]

1. Pointing to exactly what you said and how you said it in print is not an ad hominem, genius.

2. Repeating yourself doesn't make your blather accurate or true. And of course you just dismiss out of hand anything you can't logically or factually disprove.

3. You repeat your myopic point. layer on your supposition and conjecture while ignoring the content of the video. Hsvr the people Hochel mentioned originally left NYC? Nope. Have these exiting rich folk k closing out all their property and investments in NYC? Nope. Did you actual view the offered video from beginning to end? Nope. Hell, even YOU contradict your own mantra by admitting that the few that actually leave are not even a blip on the financial radar. So just keep being the insipidly stubborn maga partot that you are.

Telling you are wrong and need to post good evidence is not an ad hom.

An ad hominem remark is a type of logical fallacy where someone attacks the person instead of addressing the argument.

Instead of responding to what someone said, the speaker goes after who they are.

 

[archives]

Seriously? You call going in to play a baseball game using the city's services? Profiting off of its potential?

OK, then why not apply it to all people who travel there for business? Have you ever traveled to another state for business? Would you be glad to pay state taxes to them?

Where did I say NYC taxes baseball players? If you own a team in NYC and turn a profit you pay a City tax on that profit, just as Trump does off his real estate, if he paid taxes, employees of that team or Trump do not pay that tax, not that difficult to understand

And the guy schlepping into NYC to conduct business doesn’t pay the tax unless he owns a piece of that business he is dealing in, and, those that live out of State who pay the tax, as Trump if he ever paid taxes, could deduct that as an expense off of their own State’s income tax

 

[Taichiliberal]

Telling you are wrong and need to post good evidence is not an ad hom.

An ad hominem remark is a type of logical fallacy where someone attacks the person instead of addressing the argument.

Instead of responding to what someone said, the speaker goes after who they are.

He'll just reject that in favor of his own interpretations and definitions. That's why he's now on my ignore list. You can't argue with stupid.

 

[Teflon Don]

Where did I say NYC taxes baseball players? If you own a team in NYC and turn a profit you pay a City tax on that profit, just as Trump does off his real estate, if he paid taxes, employees of that team or Trump do not pay that tax, not that difficult to understand

And the guy schlepping into NYC to conduct business doesn’t pay the tax unless he owns a piece of that business he is dealing in, and, those that live out of State who pay the tax, as Trump if he ever paid taxes, could deduct that as an expense off of their own State’s income tax

Are you so stupid that you don't know that professional athletes pay taxes to the state they play in? It is called the jock tax. Now many states allow you to deduct it so they aren't double taxed, but it does create a bigger filing hassle.

So yes, if a baseball player plays against the NY Yankees, they are taxed by NY State.

I can't believe you don't know that.

And Trump pays his taxes according to the tax code as it is written. If he didn't he would have been arrested by now by you marxists. This whole "Trump doesn't pay taxes" is just a stupid saying by stupid people who either don't understand the tax code or don't mind lying. Which are you?

Here is the bottom line from someone who has owned his own business, the tax code is built for business owners like me. It is built to screw W2 workers like you.

 

[archives]

Are you so stupid that you don't know that professional athletes pay taxes to the state they play in? It is called the jock tax. Now many states allow you to deduct it so they aren't double taxed, but it does create a bigger filing hassle.

So yes, if a baseball player plays against the NY Yankees, they are taxed by NY State.

I can't believe you don't know that.

And Trump pays his taxes according to the tax code as it is written. If he didn't he would have been arrested by now by you marxists. This whole "Trump doesn't pay taxes" is just a stupid saying by stupid people who either don't understand the tax code or don't mind lying. Which are you?

Here is the bottom line from someone who has owned his own business, the tax code is built for business owners like me. It is built to screw W2 workers like you.

Wait a minute, so you think the majority of any group outside of professional athletes know what a “jock tax” is, most professional athletes themselves probably don’t know what it is.

And wasn’t it in post #28 above where you directly stated “New York can't make people that no longer live in their state pay taxes,” showing you also had no idea of a “jock tax,” so forget the “are you so stupid” and “I can’t believe you didn’t know that”bullshit

How do you know Trump pays taxes, all we do know is that he was penalized a million and half for tax fraud and $355 million for falsifying business records

 

[Truth Detector]

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Her statement about remote work is fascinating. She said they were “captive” meaning they could do anything they wanted because they were the states prisoner

these marxists hate freedom

I hope more people move out. That means lost electoral votes and less political power as well as shrinking tax base. However they should not be allowed to vote in new state for 10 years so they don’t fuck those places yp

Veruca wouldn’t be happy if Florida turned left wing. He likes his low taxes

Democrats are the most dishonest, hypocritical morons on the planet.

 

[Truth Detector]

Love it!!! the MAGAt boneheads wouldn't know shit from shinola about Marx, much less Engles

We sure know you're a repugnant, vulgar, brainless moron on steroids though.

 

[QP!]

she said what she said, you seem to want to quibble over a single word as if you are proving some point.

the reality is that their policies are turning people away, not inviting them

all you are left with are takers

The problem you have is you are stupid.

It is Red States that are the 'TOP takers' and REQUIRE the welfare Blue States provide them to maintain their services and way of life.

Red States NEED the strong Blue States to generate the wealth so that via Federal SOCIALISM it can be redistributed to Red States, who are the welfare cousin States.


AI Overview





Studies consistently show that Republican-leaning "red" states are generally more dependent on federal funding than Democratic-leaning "blue" states. This reliance is measured by high federal funding, high returns on tax dollars, and significant federal employment, with states like New Mexico, West Virginia, and Mississippi leading in dependence, often due to Medicaid and low tax revenue.

 

[QP!]

Irrelevant appeal to authority on your part now. Webster is hardly the be-all, end-all of defining what a logical fallacy is.

The problem you have is your argument is the equivalent of a 5 year old saying 'nuh uh, i am right' and just hand waving the 100 year old authority on defining words away while saying 'i am more trusted in this realm'.

You do this all the time PROCLAIMING you are the one correct and the data, science, facts, authorities are wrong and you do not make an argument for it. You just say it.

 

[Teflon Don]

Wait a minute, so you think the majority of any group outside of professional athletes know what a “jock tax” is, most professional athletes themselves probably don’t know what it is.

And wasn’t it in post #28 above where you directly stated “New York can't make people that no longer live in their state pay taxes,” showing you also had no idea of a “jock tax,” so forget the “are you so stupid” and “I can’t believe you didn’t know that”bullshit

How do you know Trump pays taxes, all we do know is that he was penalized a million and half for tax fraud and $355 million for falsifying business records

well I know about the jock tax, but then I am smarter than you. So you think a professional athlete doesn't know how they are taxed? Trust me they do. Why do you think so many move to Florida or want to play for Florida teams?

And you are taking my comment out of context. Clearly if they are doing business in NYC they have to pay business taxes. I was referring to personal income taxes. Don't be so obtuse just because you can't prove your point and I have fisted you yet again on a topic

 

[Teflon Don]

The problem you have is you are stupid.

It is Red States that are the 'TOP takers' and REQUIRE the welfare Blue States provide them to maintain their services and way of life.

Red States NEED the strong Blue States to generate the wealth so that via Federal SOCIALISM it can be redistributed to Red States, who are the welfare cousin States.


AI Overview




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Studies consistently show that Republican-leaning "red" states are generally more dependent on federal funding than Democratic-leaning "blue" states. This reliance is measured by high federal funding, high returns on tax dollars, and significant federal employment, with states like New Mexico, West Virginia, and Mississippi leading in dependence, often due to Medicaid and low tax revenue.

Another marxist pushing bogus shit. Maybe you call tell us about Nixon's southern strategy too