Social Conservatism = nanny state!

Jarod said:
Its not hard, if you have an interest and can grasp large concepts Id recomend it.

If you are expecting to be graded on your spelling ability you will be met with a suprise!
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I thouht they wure anal about teeching you how to prepare all the numerus legal documunts, down to marjins and evrything?
 
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Threedee said:
I thouht they wure anal about teeching you how to prepare all the numerus legal documunts, down to marjins and evrything?
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THey dont teach you any of that shit. The legal research and writing class in the first semester of the first year has some of that about margens and stuff, but not spelling. Hell I got a B+ in that class, I did all of my assignments on a computer in word perfect, it was easy.
 
Jarod said:
So to you Christianity is not our national religen?
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I don't think SM has ever said it is our national religion. But he has said we are a christian nation.




But SM, isn't outlawing smoking in a privately owned restaurant the action of a nanny state?
 
WinterBorn said:
I don't think SM has ever said it is our national religion. But he has said we are a christian nation.




But SM, isn't outlawing smoking in a privately owned restaurant the action of a nanny state?
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So, being a christian nation is not the same thing as having a national religion?
 
Damn Yankee said:
1. In private retirement accounts, you can choose who manages your money or do so yourself. Only the government can "manage" your social security funds, and if you die young, they take what's left. Which plan has more freedom?

2. We don't have a free market with hospitals in the US, due to the huge influence of government dollars in Medicare and Medicaid. They control how many hospital beds can be built in all regions of the country. An actual free market would drive prices down. Which side promotes more freedom?

3. Conservatives are for the Flat Tax or Fair Tax systems, which would eliminate "tax cuts for the rich", and everyone would have to pay their "fair share". Why are Liberals against this?
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1. The way conservatives have ground our economy into the ground, most people can't afford to save for retirement. Bush found out what happens when you start talking about profitizing SS. If you want to manage your own retirement more power to ya, but it's still the law that you pay into SS.

2. Without Medicare/medicaid people wouldn't be able to get hospital care. So much for compassionate conservatives. Society still means something to liberals. With SS and healthcare for the poor and old, conservatives show their real colors.

3. Flat/Fair. I dont want to have to write a check to the govt every month. I will adjust my withholding to a break even point if need be. Taxes are the price you pay for a civilized society, get over it.
 
WinterBorn said:
I don't think SM has ever said it is our national religion. But he has said we are a christian nation.




But SM, isn't outlawing smoking in a privately owned restaurant the action of a nanny state?
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I know a lot of Conservatives who voted for this when it was a Florida Ballot innititative. I was against it, even though an argument can be made that it was a ban on companies, not individuals.
 
Damn Yankee said:
1. In private retirement accounts, you can choose who manages your money or do so yourself. Only the government can "manage" your social security funds, and if you die young, they take what's left. Which plan has more freedom?

2. We don't have a free market with hospitals in the US, due to the huge influence of government dollars in Medicare and Medicaid. They control how many hospital beds can be built in all regions of the country. An actual free market would drive prices down. Which side promotes more freedom?

3. Conservatives are for the Flat Tax or Fair Tax systems, which would eliminate "tax cuts for the rich", and everyone would have to pay their "fair share". Why are Liberals against this?
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The Fair Tax Act has been opposed by conservatives and liberals alike.

Conservatives use the current tax system as a reward/punishment system just like the liberals.
 
Jarod said:
I know a lot of Conservatives who voted for this when it was a Florida Ballot innititative. I was against it, even though an argument can be made that it was a ban on companies, not individuals.
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When the gov't steps in and forces a privately owned business to ban smoking in his restaurant, its hard to argue that that is part of protecting our freedoms.

In fact, it shows a proclivity to limit more and more of our freedoms.
 
Jarod said:
So, being a christian nation is not the same thing as having a national religion?
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DING!! DING!!

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Its a fucking miracle!!!
 
Crashk said:
1. The way conservatives have ground our economy into the ground, most people can't afford to save for retirement. Bush found out what happens when you start talking about profitizing SS. If you want to manage your own retirement more power to ya, but it's still the law that you pay into SS.
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Yes, the people are proles. They are so fucking stupid, that they don't mind government screwing them over, and spending all of their precious retirement benefits, but dare to shift the burden of mis-managing it over to themselves (which was only going to be optional, so only an intelligent few were going to be at risk of doing that), and they were manipulated into a frenzy.

Oh, but its still the law to pay into that black hole, because even though SS is as good as non-existent, we still have to believe in it. There's your national religion, Gerud - the retirement savings plan that isn't there!!
 
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