We Should Not Be Attacking Iran

You're on the wrong side of this issue.
You're brilliant, excellent argument, lol. Just like the BBB, you were an idiot then, and guess what? You're an idiot now.
You are conflicted. You are both an American and a Christian.
More brilliance. Don't you scumbags worship pigs or do you fuck pigs, I can't keep it straight.
As an American, you know that Iran is not a threat to the US, and we should be focusing on America.
Tell that to all the dead American you complete simpleton. The thousands killed and maimed. I know, it's all Israel's fault. I'm sure you'll tell us all.
Unfortunately, as a Christian, you adhere to the Ted Cruz doctrine, i.e. that you must OBEY Israel or you won't be blessed and you won't go to heaven. As such, when Israel orders America to support it's genocide against Arabs, you fall in line and OBEY. When Israel demands that the US attack Iran while having US taxpayers subsidize the free healthcare and college tuition for all Israelis, you fall in line and OBEY. If Israel orders you to bend over and drop 'em, you OBEY. Your desire to be "blessed" assumes priority, and Israel knows this.
What can I say, more idiocy. You're really bad at this. Bigots are always drooling idiots as soon as they see the word Jew. Maybe you could explain that to me, please. I'll admit my ignorance about how losers like you become bigots? Parenting? Mental Illness? Do you live in the mountains with a really big family, really friendly with each other??
If Israel were to vanish tomorrow, it would only bode well for America, i.e. no more slave-master ordering Americans to bully and kill those who Israel HATES.
A bigot would say, lol. Again, you lose all logic and reason, I know it's in there, I've seen it. Like I said, it's a real mystery. I'm leaning on the bigotry was beaten into you by daddy theory, but there's too many possibilities to pick from.
I am deeply opposed to following Israel's orders. Put America first.
You're opposed to Jews breathing, and Israel's existence. A lot of you heroes around the globe agree with you. Your favorite? He's dead now, lol. Oh, guess who did it? That's right, Israel, you must have been so upset, lol.
If the US hadn't been OBEYING Israel's mandates to US foreign policy, we wouldn't have been fuqqing with Iran in the first place. Perhaps you are aware that while the US was in Iraq and Afghanistan, we had effectively surrounded Iran with US military forces and proceded to blatantly interfere in Iran's commerce ... and Iran had done nothing to us.
Obviously, you're sad about your hero getting turned to dust, lol. Don't worry isn't he the one that gets to fuck a pig, no it's that he gets to fuck a whole bunch of pigs and to sweeten the deal, the pigs are virgins. Right? I said I can't keep it straight, you tell me. Take your time, I know it's hard for you to think about. Israel has ruined another day for you.
There is nothing more dangerous than a moron who thinks he's a genius. How do you want me to treat you? Like the OBEDIENT moron you are, or should I pretend you are capable of being rational?
I agree with that first part. You can treat me like the guy that could turn you into a fine powder, lol. I'll treat you like a raging pig fucking bigot. See how easy that is, bigot covers it all.
You pretend that Iran was somehow a threat to America as a distraction away from the fact that the US is a wholely owned subsidiary of Israel, who is calling the shots.
Now you're getting all Jew hater stupid again, you're repeating yourself and clearly getting all triggered. Again, all the dead Americans would disagree and the thousands of Americans with missing parts might think differently. After seeing all the intel from his trusted cabinet and American and Israeli intelligence agencies Trump thought different too. I know, those super crafty Israelis tricked Trump while they picked his pockets. I got all that, although I'm waiting for the evidence. I seen the predictable delusions, not the evidence.

But no worries, IBDABigot knows best. He knows what's really going on. He's really smart you know. Iran was only doing what they needed to do. They use what they've got. The fight has never been fair because...........well, obviously, Israel. Israel is the reason they fight like cowards, Israel says the hate filled simpleton. I'll bet Oct 7th was a very good day for you, just a guess. After all, they had it coming. So did the Americans killed and tortured that day, right?
Step 1. AIPAC meets with Trump and Rubio and tells them who must be attacked
Shocker, straight out of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion playbook. Actually, I'm surprised you haven't worked in USS Liberty or the false flag operation. I hope that's coming, can't wait to learn more from you, lol.
Step 2. The US provides Israel all intelligence and $$ needed to carry out the attack
The US shares intel and aid with Israel because they're our strongest ally against shared enemies just like Iran. Your twisted view ignores how this partnership has saved American lives by dismantling threats we both face. Also, I love the 'all intelligence' part. Israel is well-known for their intelligence operations and they have definitely help save American lives many times.

Now, the bigot will point out every time Israel did something against our interests. Some true for sure, but he ignores that we do the same and every other country does as well. It's called acting in their interests not ours. Luckily those interest line up with ours much more than not. We could spend weeks trading stories of all our many allies screwing us over, and us screwing them over. Countries are run by people and people are far from perfect. Politics change, leaders change, you only need to consider the difference in American policy between Obama and Trump for an example. Bigots full of hate like you can't see past your own ignorance, you are hardly attempting to apply fairness when evaluated history if there's a Jew involved.
Step 3. The US humbly asks AIPAC if massa needs anything else
The US shares intel and funds with Israel because it's a vital ally in smashing shared threats like Iranian terror, not some Zionist puppet show you fantasized about with all three inches in your hand. Your bullshit ignores reality. I know, I don't really know what's going on, you and your band of bigots do. After all, there are books about it, lol.

Now I'll get a rant about why our soldiers shouldn't be over there getting killed by Iran's proxies, it's not our problem. True or not, sane adults need to act in what is, not what should be if IBDABigot had been running things for the last 75 years. Jew haters have an entire historical narrative to jerk off to, so let me give you a quick overview of reality. Whether our strategy in the middle east was right or wrong, we have to operate understanding where we are now, not where we wish we were if things were done differently. Do I think we should have all those bases there? It's irrelevant because they are there and Americans are threatened every day. Trump is cleaning up the mess made in the past and then putting his focus on our hemisphere. At least, that's how I see it.

In the late sixties we were in the Russia business, Cold War and all that. Israel had a little scuffle with an Arab coalition and kicked some serious ass. The US noticed their competence much like a talent scout sees the next big thing and figured out pretty quick that Israel would make a good friend in the region since we were both free countries with common enemies, so we hooked up. Since then, decades of mutual defense pacts, joint ops that have saved countless American lives by dismantling proxy militias killing our troops and sharing critical intelligence. Has it been all roses? What friendship ever is? On balance it's been a good alliance, despite the Isreal hate club's version of the story. You won't be able to verify any of the bigot's version, you'll need a little faith.
Step 4. AIPAC tells Trump into which accounts to deposit the next installment
Pure hallucinated bullshit, AIPAC doesn't bribe presidents, this isn't some fictional payoff, it's policy. Like it or not, it's all legit and AIPAC doesn't tell Trump to do shit, that's your delusions caused by hatred of again. Can you say conspiracy nut?
Step 5. Tobytone applauds with glee
Yes, because your pathetic list didn't continue. Shitty fiction bores me quickly, not my thing, but it's the 'thought' that counts, thanks.
Iran has no nuclear weapons and no capability to deliver one if they were to get one; nonetheless, Iran has fully registered it's nonexistent nuclear program for international inspection.

Israel, on the other hand, has hundreds of illicit nuclear weapons that they refuse to register or to allow be inspected. This is perhaps the planet's single biggest concern behind Israel's genocide of Arabs, considering that the IDF is the world's most active terrorist organization.

Israel should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and if the US is to be consistent, the US should rain down holy hell on Israel, just as we did on Iran who didn't even have any weapons.
Just more delusions. All feelings, zero evidence. For example, Iran has no nukes yet, sure, but claiming no delivery capability is laughable when they've got the Middle East's biggest ballistic missile arsenal, ready to rain hell on Israel or US bases, and they're enriching uranium to 60 percent, just a hop from bomb-grade, with enough stockpiled for multiple weapons if they sprint for it.

Fully registered and inspected? What a joke, they've kicked out IAEA inspectors, smashed cameras, and stonewalled probes into undeclared sites for years, all while bragging about their 'peaceful" program that's anything but. You have alternative facts pulled from your ass.

Israel's nukes are undeclared, yeah, ok, but they're not signatories to the NPT like Iran pretends to be while cheating and lying like the pigs they were, you know, before Israel just killed them, lol. Israel hasn't threatened to wipe anyone off the map or funded terror proxies killing Americans either.

Israel should not be allowed to have nuclear weapons, and if the US is to be consistent, the US should rain down holy hell on Israel, just as we did on Iran who didn't even have any weapons.
Has to be the winner of the Most Delusional Comment in a tough group of competitors. Sure, sane people definitely agree with this brilliant comparison, lol. And everybody knows that good foreign policy is being 'consistent' with all countries. If we give aid to one, we must give aid to all, if we share intel with one, we must share intel with all, to be 'consistent.' Brilliant point.
You know that we bombed Iran just because Israel ordered it.
I think we've covered that already. Your concerns are noted.
 
Yes, it's about Israel, and Israel's control over the US. The US is attacking Iran at Israel's order. Of course, the Trump Administration is pivoting to "we're freeing the Iranian people" but we are supposed to be focusing on America, not focusing on attacking Israel's enemies at Israel's orders.


I don't care. We should be focusing on America. Iran should not be our concern, and we should not be OBEYING Israel's commands to attack other countries that are not threats to us.


If Israel were to disappear tomorrow, ... big fucking deal. How is that America's concern? Other than America slipping out from under control of its slave-master, there would be no effect.


Don't care.


Which Jews? Who is God? Why did he choose them?


OK, I have read the Bible. Let me check. Nope, nothing has changed.


Was this covenant passed by the UN Security Council?


You, not he, appear to be focused on the wrong thing.
President Trump shouldn't abandon the security and safety of the citizens of the United States of America, just because you and your ilk don't like the Jews. Get over it.
 
Yes. Exactly. Israel should have done this and the US should not have. Let me know if you'd like me to clarify further.
No further clarification needed. I just wanted to verify my understanding of your nuanced view of supporting Israel's decision to finally attack the Ayatollah himself (as you've said in the past that they should do) while opposing USA's involvement in the attack (with your main concern being that the USA is ultimately doing Israel's bidding rather than the USA's bidding).
you and I shouldn't be paying for all Israelis to receive free healthcare and free college tuition.
I'm wholeheartedly with you on this part. My frustration with this sort of thing is also directed toward other countries and organizations such as Canada, Ukraine, much of the European Union, and NATO. We The People shouldn't be subsidizing their defense, healthcare, education, social programs, etc.
... but don't worry, I'm still MAGA.
Ha! I've never doubted your desire to Make America Great Again. :)
 
You're brilliant, excellent argument, lol. Just like the BBB, you were an idiot then, and guess what? You're an idiot now.
All anyone needs to see is that you are an excellent representation of mainstream American Christianity, i.e. normally a positive force for good in America, but totally irrational and evil when Israel is introduced into the subject. Normally, leftists are the single greatest proponent of death and HATRED on planet earth, but when Israel is involved, American Christians become genocidal maniacs who can't get enough atrocities and war crimes.

Your American Christian virtue-signaling hasn't made you any more intelligent. On this topic, there is no intelligent contribution to be had.

More brilliance. Don't you scumbags worship pigs or do you fuck pigs, I can't keep it straight.
Taking a page right out of the undereducated leftist playbook, you are resorting to abandoning your antecedents and treating me as a plural. How many of me are there this time?

Tell that to all the dead American you complete simpleton.
Did you just tell me to tell dead people something?

The thousands killed and maimed.
Thousands? There is no rational discussion to be had with you. You've made that perfectly clear.

I know, it's all Israel's fault. I'm sure you'll tell us all.
I already have. Yes, it's all Israel's fault ... along with all the complicit American Christians.

Bigots are always drooling idiots as soon as they see the word Jew.
This is where you forfeit. Come back when you learn the difference between "Israel" and "Jews". I'll wait.

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its best to stick to "only ally in the region" type arguments.
There's one problem with this. American Christians refer to Israel as our "ally" when they are definitely not. The US government considers Israel one of its top adversaries, based on the extent to which they spy on the US and actively endanger the US, almost as if they know that they get to act in this manner with impunity.

Israel is not considered an ally, despite rhetoric of American Christians, including those Christians who happen to hold US government positions and who deny Israel's antagonism towards the US.

Remember the US Liberty. Never forget.
 
There's one problem with this. American Christians refer to Israel as our "ally" when they are definitely not. The US government considers Israel one of its top adversaries, based on the extent to which they spy on the US and actively endanger the US, almost as if they know that they get to act in this manner with impunity.

Israel is not considered an ally, despite rhetoric of American Christians, including those Christians who happen to hold US government positions and who deny Israel's antagonism towards the US.

Remember the US Liberty. Never forget.
but its better than the "we must serve God's people" argument.

you can only peel an onion from the outside.
 
These are dark days.....it is time to saddle up and ride against EVIL.

For the kids if you cant figure out a better reason.

WE NEED U!
 
what are you watching?
I'm glad you asked.

On the topic of the bombing of Iran, Karoline Leavitt was uncharacteristically dishonest. In fact, she reminded me of Karine Jean‑Pierre. I think we can all agree that Karoline is usually honest, straightforward and thorough when answering questions. It was rather disappointing to hear her EVADE a direct question about the bombing of Iran.

The question was "Nobody from this administration has laid out the imminent threat that was supposed to be taken care of by this [bombing of Iran]..."

Karoline opened with "I completely reject the premise of your question." I found this response troubling since there was no premise to the direct, straightforward question. Karoline's response was exactly the dishonest dismissal that I normally expect from leftists to almost any substantive question. Karoline did not answer with "In case you missed it, the imminent threat posed by Iran was X." Instead she berated the person asking the question, just like a leftist would, saying that "we" were told by the President, the Vice President, the Secretary of State, and many others, and that the President doesn't make these kinds of decisions in a vacuum ... excellent EVASION with feigned indignance.

She never answered the question. I was very disappointed.
 
I'm glad you asked.

On the topic of the bombing of Iran, Karoline Leavitt was uncharacteristically dishonest. In fact, she reminded me of Karine Jean‑Pierre. I think we can all agree that Karoline is usually honest, straightforward and thorough when answering questions. It was rather disappointing to hear her EVADE a direct question about the bombing of Iran.

The question was "Nobody from this administration has laid out the imminent threat that was supposed to be taken care of by this [bombing of Iran]..."

Karoline opened with "I completely reject the premise of your question." I found this response troubling since there was no premise to the direct, straightforward question. Karoline's response was exactly the dishonest dismissal that I normally expect from leftists to almost any substantive question. Karoline did not answer with "In case you missed it, the imminent threat posed by Iran was X." Instead she berated the person asking the question, just like a leftist would, saying that "we" were told by the President, the Vice President, the Secretary of State, and many others, and that the President doesn't make these kinds of decisions in a vacuum ... excellent EVASION with feigned indignance.

She never answered the question. I was very disappointed.
The people who run things dont give a Flying Fuck what you think you want/need/whatever.

Sit Down and Shut Up.
 
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