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Exactly, why don't people understand this, they will marry or unite in a court house or at their homes, they just want legal rights as a couple! The ones Bud and I enjoy!
Not that's just wrong!

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You stumbled on part of an analogy here Yurt. Queers aren't allowed to marry just as the blind aren't allowed to drive, because they are not qualified.

lol...this is getting good

pray tell what physical limitation homosexuals have that would bar them from being qualified for marriage.

blind is easy...if you can't see, you put other people's lives in danger...

very weak, i expected better from you bud
 
lol...this is getting good

pray tell what physical limitation homosexuals have that would bar them from being qualified for marriage.

blind is easy...if you can't see, you put other people's lives in danger...

very weak, i expected better from you bud
That's the point, there is no physical limitation, but a mental one. Like we don't allow felons to own guns. :)
 
Yurt, don't you think it rather odd that a man could get it up hard enough to jam his manhood up where another defecates? I could never understand rapists either, getting hard on a woman crying and screaming. There's something seriously wrong with these guy's brains. Why should that behavior be rewarded?
 
The CA law forbids you from marring a another man as well Yurt. How is that discrimination?

what if i was black and wanted to marry a white person and california law said i could not....how is that discrimination, i could marry any black person, just as a white could marry any white person

further, as needs repeating...marriage is a fundamental right, subject to strict scrutiny...tell me what valid reasons under strict scrutiny does a state have for denying marriage licenses to same sex couples....
 
what if i was black and wanted to marry a white person and california law said i could not....how is that discrimination, i could marry any black person, just as a white could marry any white person

further, as needs repeating...marriage is a fundamental right, subject to strict scrutiny...tell me what valid reasons under strict scrutiny does a state have for denying marriage licenses to same sex couples....

Blacks and whites don't choose their race Yurt.
 
Yurt, don't you think it rather odd that a man could get it up hard enough to jam his manhood up where another defecates? I could never understand rapists either, getting hard on a woman crying and screaming. There's something seriously wrong with these guy's brains. Why should that behavior be rewarded?

it is odd...then again i think a man plugging his wife's anus is also odd...YET, we "reward" that behavior...i think it is odd we allow britney spears type marriages, yet we "reward" that behavior...

it is not an award at all....as they can do that now, all we are giving them are equal rights and their due process...which you have not yet come up with any valid reason to deny them, other than you are morally opposed to ass sex...what i note is that you conveniently leave out lesbians
 
it is odd...then again i think a man plugging his wife's anus is also odd...YET, we "reward" that behavior...i think it is odd we allow britney spears type marriages, yet we "reward" that behavior...

it is not an award at all....as they can do that now, all we are giving them are equal rights and their due process...which you have not yet come up with any valid reason to deny them, other than you are morally opposed to ass sex...what i note is that you conveniently leave out lesbians

Society don't reward that behavior Yurt. Some elements might, but not society as a whole.
 
That's the point, there is no physical limitation, but a mental one. Like we don't allow felons to own guns. :)

no, you compared it to a blind person driving...now you realize what a lame argument that was and so move the goal post....a state has legitimate reasons to deny felons rights to guns....there is no reason to deny marriage to homosexuals

i'm enjoying knocking down your arguments....with you though, it will simply be me knocking down all your arguments, but you never admitting you were wrong in making the argument...:)
 
no, you compared it to a blind person driving...now you realize what a lame argument that was and so move the goal post....a state has legitimate reasons to deny felons rights to guns....there is no reason to deny marriage to homosexuals

i'm enjoying knocking down your arguments....with you though, it will simply be me knocking down all your arguments, but you never admitting you were wrong in making the argument...:)
Its both Yurt. Either or. How is that moving goal posts?
 
Assume for a moment that traditional marriage is a fundamental right, who is stopping a gay man from marrying a consenting woman?
Ya know SM. That comment reminds me of the unique legal precedence set in Montana in the late 19th century when some cattle ranchers lynched some sheep herders. The judge, a cattle rancher himself, exonerated the other ranchers on the unique legal precedence that the sheep herders were better off dead.
 
They are asking for legal rights, not the right to the ceremony, you know this is the underlying issue, right. they want to be able to cover their partner under their insurance plans, to be able to adopt and have legal rights in medical situations. You know, those kinds of things! They just want to be 'normal', whatever that is?
Right!
 
Well, no one gives a shit about two gay people getting "married" in a "church." It's about the rights and obligations conferred by the state.

And states have long been neck deep in marriage so your gobbledygook about "freedom" and all that is just nonsense.

I understand your position full well, I just think it is impractical and historically ignorant.
And I was giving a reason that I believe they should have the same "rights" (actually benefits, not rights, there is a difference). I don't believe you do understand my position because your argument "against" it makes it clear you don't.
 
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