President Trump calls for 'mentally deranged' Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib to 'be institutionalized' for SOTU antics

[AProudLefty]

No that either. It simply asks you to choose between two groups, Who do you put at the head of the line? would be another way of phrasing it.

No, they're not. They protest ICE arresting vicious criminal aliens and fight tooth and nail to keep every illegal alien in the US. That's proven by sanctuary policies, policies that hinder and even obstruct ICE operations, and their open rioting against any attempts to remove illegals.

Their version is, well the vicious criminals are only a small fraction of the whole and ICE is removing the whole. When confronted that anyone here illegally is by definition a criminal, they switch to an argument about the severity of the crime rather than trying to deny the obvious.

You just committed the same fallacy. Being concerned about the asylum seekers is not the same as not caring about America and the citizens and their protections.

I'm surprised at you. Do better.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

My bet is that clip showing some Democrat sitting will get played in a few months during the mid-term campaign season and more vulnerable Democrats running for office will be doing everything they can to walk it back and deny participation.

Also, it wasn't a complex question fallacy, but rather a straightforward question Trump and his speech writers knew the Democrats would answer just as they did. Their hatred of Trump outweighed everything else, and they paid the price for that.

No Doubt it will be play over and over again on Fox News, OAN, etc.

What your former self might have understood and what you clearly don't understand now is that American voters are going to compare Trump's promises to their own wallets and pocketbooks next November.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

You just committed the same fallacy. Being concerned about the asylum seekers is not the same as not caring about America and the citizens and their protections.

I'm surprised at you. Do better.

Prioritizing one over the other isn't "Us versus them" but rather ranking who gets put where in line. You are, at best, saying neither group deserves preferential treatment and should be treated equally. That would mean you are in favor of illegals getting all the same rights and benefits as legal immigrants and even US citizens.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You just committed the same fallacy. Being concerned about the asylum seekers is not the same as not caring about America and the citizens and their protections.

I'm surprised at you. Do better.

Sorry, but you're seeing the best possible version of the current Terry Gardner, ex-USN. Sad.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

No Doubt it will be play over and over again on Fox News, OAN, etc.

What your former self might have understood and what you clearly don't understand now is that American voters are going to compare Trump's promises to their own wallets and pocketbooks next November.

You'll need a major economic trainwreck between now and then to get that to the top of the ticket.

 

[Hawkeye10]

MAGA is splintering, and it is all Trumps fault.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Prioritizing one over the other isn't "Us versus them" but rather ranking who gets put where in line. You are, at best, saying neither group deserves preferential treatment and should be treated equally. That would mean you are in favor of illegals getting all the same rights and benefits as legal immigrants and even US citizens.

QED.

I took the oath at least 7 times and expect Terry did similarly at every promotion. The fact he doesn't support and defend the Constitution now tells me that his mind is going.

 

[AProudLefty]

Prioritizing one over the other isn't "Us versus them" but rather ranking who gets put where in line. You are, at best, saying neither group deserves preferential treatment and should be treated equally. That would mean you are in favor of illegals getting all the same rights and benefits as legal immigrants and even US citizens.

There is no prioritizing. That's a talking point.

And who is favoring that? You don't favor the asylum seekers being on the path?

This is a country of immigrants.

 

[Hawkeye10]

Declaring dissidents mentally ill and putting them away is what the Soviets did.

At the time we bragged about being better.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

You'll need a major economic trainwreck between now and then to get that to the top of the ticket.

Nice backpedal.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

There is no prioritizing. That's a talking point.

And who is favoring that? You don't favor the asylum seekers being on the path?

This is a country of immigrants.

MAGAts love arresting kids. Remember the cancer kid they laughed about deporting? They are evil...and their neighbors know it.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

There is no prioritizing. That's a talking point.

Exactly! That's the problem! American citizens should be prioritized over those here illegally.

And who is favoring that? You don't favor the asylum seekers being on the path?

I have no problem with someone seeking asylum by the rules and for reasons set in international and US law. That means if you claim that you are economically deprived (poor as shit), or that the country you're from is racked with crime and gangs, you get kicked to the curb and told, essentially, That's you and your country's problem. Go home and solve it yourself.

That means Haitians and Somalis have ZERO or near zero grounds to claim asylum in the US, as one example.

This is a country of immigrants.

That's about as hollow a platitude as they come.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Exactly! That's the problem! American citizens should be prioritized over those here illegally.


I have no problem with someone seeking asylum by the rules and for reasons set in international and US law. That means if you claim that you are economically deprived (poor as shit), or that the country you're from is racked with crime and gangs, you get kicked to the curb and told, essentially, That's you and your country's problem. Go home and solve it yourself.

That means Haitians and Somalis have ZERO or near zero grounds to claim asylum in the US, as one example.

That's about as hollow a platitude as they come.

^^^
Hates brown people from shithole countries....and his neighbors know it.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

^^^
Hates brown people from shithole countries....and his neighbors know it.

Fallacy fallacy. Oh, and your racism is showing in that statement.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Fallacy fallacy. Oh, and your racism is showing in that statement.

More proof you are not the man who retired from the Navy. You have no honor and you take never take responsibility for your posts.

In your favor, I believe you are suffering from cognitive decline and, therefore, not responsible for your own actions. No doubt your former coworkers know this to be true.

 

[AProudLefty]

Exactly! That's the problem! American citizens should be prioritized over those here illegally.

Looks like nobody's disagreeing.

Are you okay?

I have no problem with someone seeking asylum by the rules and for reasons set in international and US law. That means if you claim that you are economically deprived (poor as shit), or that the country you're from is racked with crime and gangs, you get kicked to the curb and told, essentially, That's you and your country's problem. Go home and solve it yourself.

So you recognize the fallacy? Good.

That means Haitians and Somalis have ZERO or near zero grounds to claim asylum in the US, as one example.

Okay?

That's about as hollow a platitude as they come.

Nope. Unless you say that about the plaque under the Statue of Liberty.

 

[christiefan915]

That's what he said! Listen to his statement and the question.

Do you understand that I'm objecting to the words "not illegal aliens?" Because I'm one of those liberals you and trump hate, and I don't believe the government is protecting undocumented aliens over American citizens.

"One of the great things about the State of the Union is how it gives Americans the chance to see clearly what their representatives really believe. So tonight I’m inviting every legislature to join with my Administration in reaffirming a fundamental principle. If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens."

 

[ziggy]

Awwww, I have a follower! LOL

No, I'm not going to give you a follow. Mostly because I don't want you knowing who I am with your upcoming "Day of Rage." If you do want followers, I would suggest you change your content away from whining about people they don't know or care about.

If you want to continue to troll my every post leaving me hundreds of notifications because of your Legion bullshit, then I really should know what I'm being accused of doing to you.

 

[T. A. Gardner]

Looks like nobody's disagreeing.

Are you okay?

So you recognize the fallacy? Good.

Okay?

Nope. Unless you say that about the plaque under the Statue of Liberty.

Yes, the plaque on the Statue of Liberty is nothing but platitudes.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

No, I'm not going to give you a follow. Mostly because I don't want you knowing who I am with your upcoming "Day of Rage." If you do want followers, I would suggest you change your content away from whining about people they don't know or care about.

If you want to continue to troll my every post leaving me hundreds of notifications because of your Legion bullshit, then I really should know what I'm being accused of doing to you.

Derp derp. Yet you do it anyway. If you were smarter, you're realize X is a tool for me. I'm not in it for the "likes" or to collect followers.

I dislike liars and enemies of the Constitution.