What god did Einstein believe in?

[Into the Night]

Time as measured in units of measurement is of necessity relativistic.

Correct. Just as all measurements are.
Zero, or 'ground' is nothing more than a reference point that you choose.

However, the concept of something before and after everything is independent of units of measurement,

Nope. You are using 'now' as your 'zero point'. Anything in the future relative to that point. Anything before is relative to that point.

at least in the way my perception of a mind is working.

Yet, before and after alone are still relativistic by definition.

Quite right.

As a geriatric, my intellectual curiosity is rapidly waning,
yet I can be moved to think about this stuff when you post about it!

Heh. Sometimes an old dog CAN learn new tricks!

Thinking that the universe is all that there is is precisely why I think that it's infinite.
If it's not infinite, there would be something outside of it, in which case it would not be a UNIverse.

By definition. Quite right.

What I DON'T understand is why the speed of light is regarded as a limitation on time.

It isn't. It is simply a speed.

A photon will travel at different speeds depending on the medium it is traveling within. That is why things like rainbows, glories, blue sky, prisms, Snell's window in water, and camera lenses all work. The speed of light in a medium, regardless of that medium is the speed of the photon in that medium.

The Speed of Light, as used as a reference point in several theories of science, refers to the speed of a photon in a vacuum, about 299 792 458 m / s. It really can't be measured accurately, since the communications path for any measuring equipment is also subject to the speed of light.

I think that it theoretically is--
they don't teach that in either accounting or labor relations courses--
but we don't know for sure that something can't happen faster than that, do we?

Rather tough to measure, since all measurement equipment is subject to the same speed of light to communicate between the distance of the source and detection.

Therefore, as Heisenberg so eloquently declared, it's not possible to know the speed of a particle and it's location at the same time.

Because of that, there really is no way to observe anything being faster than the speed of light. Of course, that does NOT preclude that something may be faster.

This problem is sometimes referred to as 'probe interference'. The act of measurement itself changes what you measure!

 

[Into the Night]

If scientists are correct that an arrow of time is an result of entropy and motion,

Nope. Time is not an arrow. The 'arrow of time' is simply the 2nd law of thermodynamics providing an indicator of a direction of time.

then time is an emergent property of our universe.

Buzzword fallacy. The Universe is not a property of the Universe. Divisional error fallacy.

Time is not a fundamental physical universal principle.

Time is not the Universe nor a principle. It is simply a dimension. It can be represented as a vector, just as a shift of length, breadth, or height can be.

So when the universe originated,

How do you know it originated?

This is but one of the religions, the Church of the Big Bang. It is a nonscientific theory. It has problems of developing a paradox.

The Theory of the Continuum (that the Universe has always existed and always will) has no problem with a paradox. In the Theory of the Continuum, there is no origin, and there is no end.

there is no fundamental principle that says time had to extend into the past before the origin point.

There is no known 'origin point'. Time is not the Universe. Time is a dimension.

Energy and matter will curve space,

Space is not curved. This is a mathematical model. It is a way to describe the lens affect of object close to a star, such as the observance of the planet Mercury. Mercury follows it's orbit around the Sun in accordance with Kepler's laws, just like any planet. Our observation of it is distorted by it's proximity with the Sun, however, so it appears in a different location than where it actually is, as observed from Earth.

so it's possible you can never reach the boundaries of the universe to find out what's on the other side.

There are no know boundaries of the Universe, so there is no 'other side'.

Nothing exists but the universe itself, and if you set off traveling in one direction, you would end up right back at where you started trillions of years later.

The Universe is not a sphere.

The speed limit of light only applies to matter and energy.

Nope. It only applies to a photon, which is both matter (it has weight) and energy (it has speed).
When a photon is absorbed, it is destroyed...utterly. All of it's energy is converted to the energy of the mass it struck. All of it's mass becomes part of the mass it struck.

The speed of light IS the speed of the photon. Nothing more, nothing less. It is not a 'speed limit'. No cop is going to ticket a speeding photon.

Space can expand at any speed it wants,

The Universe has no known boundary. What is 'expanding'?

that's why distant parts of the universe are receding from us faster than the speed of light,

Nope. We can see 'em.

and we will never see it because the light cannot overcome the recession speed to reach us.

Nope. We can see 'em.

The reason relativity works as a theory

Relativity is not a theory. It is simply two things relative to each other.

is because the speed of light is perfectly constant for everyone,

It isn't. The speed of light is the speed of a photon, which is dependent on the medium that photon is traveling through. That's why the sky is blue, camera lenses work, prisms work, and why there is a "Snell's Window" underwater.

no matter how fast they are going. It's because of this fact that for anything moving at high speeds space and time have to warp themselves (i.e., time slows down, distances decrease) in order to maintain the constancy of the speed of light c for that observer.

Nope. Time as measured by any type of clock is the same for any observer relative to that clock.

The Lorentz equation tells us that for anything that travels at the speed of light time stops.

Nope. Clocks would still operate the same for those moving with that clock.

The Lorentz transformation (not an equation) indicates that any matter moving at the speed of light has infinite energy and therefore IS light. This also agrees with Einstein's and Heisenberg's theories.

So from the perspective of a photon the beginning of the universe and today occurred instantaneously.

Nope. Light has a speed, even in a vacuum. The Universe has no known beginning or end.

 

[Into the Night]

I think a reasonable inference is that the universal mathematical laws of physics represent some kind of rational agency underlying the origin of the universe.

I have not been able to convince myself that universal mathematical rationality just randomly popped into existence by chance.

Buzzword fallacies (universal mathematical laws of physics, rational agency, universal mathematical rationality, randomly popped into existence).
The Universe has no known origin or end.

 

[IBDaMann]

Einstein “was a pantheist who maintained certain Jewish traditions,”

Nope.

and he preferred to be called an agnostic and disliked militant atheists.

You don't get to speak for any dead people. You don't get to say what Einstein liked, disliked or preferred. Einstein did not recognize your bogus term "militant atheist". Einstein was intelligent, unlike you.

But what did Einstein mean by “God”?​

Not a personal god. For Einstein, "God" encapsulated the forces of nature.

In truth, Einstein was likely at neither extreme

You like to pretend that you calculate probabilities and likelihoods.

“Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that some spirit is manifest in the laws of the universe, one that is vastly superior to that of man. In this way the pursuit of science leads to a religious feeling of a special sort, which is surely quite different from the religiosity of someone more naive.”

Yep, that's what I wrote above.

Scholars generally agree

Nope ... and you don't speak for "scholars."

that the theoretical physicist was an actual pantheist, believing that God is “in everything,”

That's not what "pantheist" means.

“I believe in Spinoza’s God, who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, not in a God who concerns himself with the fate and the doings of mankind.”

Yep. That's what I wrote above.

Big Think concludes that Einstein “was a pantheist who maintained certain Jewish traditions,”

... which is why we discard Big Think's position.

 

[Dutch Uncle]

So was Epstein.

Was he also a Brazilian or did he only give Brazilians to his girls?

Epstein, like you, worship evil in the form of the Lord of the Flies.

 

[Monad Portal]

Very interestingly put, C.

For you, it's something of which you cannot convince yourself.
For me, when somehow moved to contemplate the subject,
that which you cannot believe is the first explanation that pops into my head.

Is it because I cannot imagine an alternate way for it to happen
whereas you not only have the imagination to do so,
but that which you do imagine seems most logical to you?

he's a fucking idiot.

 

[Monad Portal]

Correct. Just as all measurements are.
Zero, or 'ground' is nothing more than a reference point that you choose.

Nope. You are using 'now' as your 'zero point'. Anything in the future relative to that point. Anything before is relative to that point.

Quite right.

Heh. Sometimes an old dog CAN learn new tricks!

By definition. Quite right.

It isn't. It is simply a speed.

A photon will travel at different speeds depending on the medium it is traveling within. That is why things like rainbows, glories, blue sky, prisms, Snell's window in water, and camera lenses all work. The speed of light in a medium, regardless of that medium is the speed of the photon in that medium.

The Speed of Light, as used as a reference point in several theories of science, refers to the speed of a photon in a vacuum, about 299 792 458 m / s. It really can't be measured accurately, since the communications path for any measuring equipment is also subject to the speed of light.

Rather tough to measure, since all measurement equipment is subject to the same speed of light to communicate between the distance of the source and detection.

Therefore, as Heisenberg so eloquently declared, it's not possible to know the speed of a particle and it's location at the same time.

Because of that, there really is no way to observe anything being faster than the speed of light. Of course, that does NOT preclude that something may be faster.

This problem is sometimes referred to as 'probe interference'. The act of measurement itself changes what you measure!

now if you only understood basic universal human morality you might not be an idiot.

 

[Monad Portal]

Was he also a Brazilian or did he only give Brazilians to his girls?

Epstein, like you, worship evil in the form of the Lord of the Flies.

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Brazilian Dollars, boy that's a lotta money....W. Bush.

 

[Monad Portal]

holy fuck cypress is dumb.

 

[Cypress]

How do you know (the universe) originated?

"Cosmologist Alex Vilenkin does the math to show that the universe indeed had a starting point"​

https://now.tufts.edu/2012/05/29/beginning-was-beginning

Space is not curved!

“Matter tells space how to curve and space tells matter how to move.”​

--> Preeminent 20th century physicist John Archibald Wheeler ​

The speed of light is the speed of a photon, which is dependent on the medium that photon is traveling through! That's why the sky is blue!

99.999999999999999999999999999999999% percent of all photons in the universe are traveling through interstellar space. That's why the laws of physics use the mathematical constant c for the speed of light in a vacuum. The universal mathematical laws of physics do not depend on the speed of light in water or air.

 

[Into the Night]

"Cosmologist Alex Vilenkin does the math to show that the universe indeed had a starting point"​

https://now.tufts.edu/2012/05/29/beginning-was-beginning

“Matter tells space how to curve and space tells matter how to move.”​

--> Preeminent 20th century physicist John Archibald Wheeler ​

99.999999999999999999999999999999999% percent of all photons in the universe are traveling through interstellar space. That's why the laws of physics use the mathematical constant c for the speed of light in a vacuum. The universal mathematical laws of physics do not depend on the speed of light in water or air.

No mathematics shown. Try again.
Random numbers and random guesses are not the Universe.

Argument from randU fallacy.
Math error: Failure to declare boundary.

You obviously don't understand Einstien's equation. Reversal fallacy.

 

[Into the Night]

Was he also a Brazilian or did he only give Brazilians to his girls?

Epstein, like you, worship evil in the form of the Lord of the Flies.

YARP.

 

[Cypress]

No mathematics shown. Try again.
Random numbers and random guesses are not the Universe.

Argument from randU fallacy.
Math error: Failure to declare boundary.

You obviously don't understand Einstien's equation. Reversal fallacy.

Esteemed Cosmologist Aleksandr Valenkin:

"The universe had a beginning."​

Obscure message board poster IntoTheNightgown:

"NO! It didn't!! "​

 

[Into the Night]

Esteemed Cosmologist Aleksandr Valenkin:

"The universe had a beginning."​

Obscure message board poster IntoTheNightgown:

"NO! It didn't!! "​

Courtier's fallacy.

 

[Cypress]

Courtier's fallacy.

Expertise counts.

 

[Margot]

now if you only understood basic universal human morality you might not be an idiot.

Humans are not really good at morality! It's a one bad apple situation.

 

[Margot]

Expertise counts.

It's better to know then not know! But ignorance is bliss! Until you're the sheep being lead to the slaughter!

 

[Into the Night]

Expertise counts.

Courtier's fallacy.