Federal troops kill a man because he carried a concealed gun.

FastLane said:
Do you know if he put his hand on it and tried to remove it before the LEO wrestled it out of his hand? I have watched the video multiple times and cannot determine if he fought them for possession of the gun.
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YOU can see he did not. Watch the videos. there are a number of different angles and perspectives.

On that note, where are the ICE bodycam videos on all this shit?
 
Crepitus said:
YOU can see he did not. Watch the videos. there are a number of different angles and perspectives.

On that note, where are the ICE bodycam videos on all this shit?
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I've asked this before, do they wear bodycams? Evidence in front of me says no. If you are wearing bodycams you would turn those on and not walk around recording on a cell phone, for instance.
 
FastLane said:
But but but the man had a gun and a mod behind him screaming to kill ICE. The Dems said it was OK to kill an unarmed woman because she had a mob behind her. So this shooting of an armed man that was fighting with Federal law enforcement must be OK.:dunno:
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False equivalency is your only trick and it's getting worn threadbare.
FastLane said:
Truth ^^^^^
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Something you avoid like a plague.

Which is ironic as hell since you are part of a plague... 🤔
FastLane said:
But but but Tampon Tim told him to be there. :dunno:
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Show us some kind of official quote where any elected official told Pretti to be anywhere.

We'll all wait for you to cook up one of your usual bullshit responses.
 
goat said:
Keep telling yourself that because it's only a matter of time before they come for you and yours.
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Yeah, ya know what? They're not coming for Americans, dipshit. :BKick:
They're not coming for crackers like me, or American blacks, or any legal immigrants that assimilated.
I'm a cracker with a long, long bloodline in America. You better go tell that retarded bullshit to some dumbfuck that will believe ya.
It ain't this cracker. :nono:
 
Jarod said:
I heard that, not sure the sequence when it was first shouted. But "Gun" does not justify killing.

The NYT reports the guy's hands were penned down next to his head when the first shot was fired.
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Trumptards- and make no mistake Damo is one - love that innocents are being beaten and murdered.

Their crime? They didn't vote for Trump. And that's it.
 
Damocles said:
However, when it was shouted and the perspective of the officer can make it so a reasonable officer may believe that there is a threat even if in hindsight we "know" there was not (I am giving benefit of the doubt here, there are folks out there with frame by frames that they say appears to show a gun in his hand)...
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You're better than this.
 
Matt Dillon said:
Yeah, ya know what? They're not coming for Americans, dipshit. :BKick:
They're not coming for crackers like me, or American blacks, or any legal immigrants that assimilated.
I'm a cracker with a long, long bloodline in America. You better go tell that retarded bullshit to some dumbfuck that will believe ya.
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Alex Pretti was protecting women who were being pushed around by gang bangers. Now he's a martyr for the civil war our morally and financially bankrupt government is trying to start. Don't give me anymore of your bullshit 2nd amendment talk.
 
goat said:
Keep telling yourself that because it's only a matter of time before they come for you and yours.
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goat said:
Alex Pretti was protecting women who were being pushed around by gang bangers. Now he's a martyr for the civil war our morally and financially bankrupt government is trying to start. Don't give me anymore of your bullshit 2nd amendment talk.
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So why did the LEOs come at him like that? Why was he there?
Here's the difference between me and fucktards like Pretti was: I know how to do things, that is not the way.
And I'll never tell how it goes, either, bitch! I am damn sure not giving any cocksucks like you and that any ideas.
One of us has scared the shit out of drug dealing assholes that I know murdered somebody, and it ain't you.
They don't wanna fuck with me. We are not the same.
 
Damocles said:
However, when it was shouted and the perspective of the officer can make it so a reasonable officer may believe that there is a threat even if in hindsight we "know" there was not (I am giving benefit of the doubt here, there are folks out there with frame by frames that they say appears to show a gun in his hand)...
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A bit of a segue question but ...

Do you ever wonder why you or I, in any shooting where we claim self defense MUST ABSOLUTELY establish the threat is real before shooting. That our defense cannot be 'we thought he had a gun... we were told he had a gun... we were scared he had gun...' and instead we must ESTABLISH the legit threat before we can kill?

Do you wonder why citizens, with no training, are held to a much higher standard than gov't officials or police with all their training and usually superior fire power and numbers????
 
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