Better training for ICE

ICE's mission is to make the American people fear them and fear Trump's state. They are not looking for justice. They are trying to make you afraid to express an opinion that Trump and the right do not like. ICE is Trump's army. They are not working for us. Trump uses brutality to make you fear him. He shows he will kill people on the shores of Venezuela because he wants to. He will beat up and kill protesters in America. He does not have the restraints of a normal president. he does what he wamnts and defies you to do anything about it. He is a dangerous and demented man with incredible power.
 
I propose better training for ICE. It's all about the training. Here's my basic outline:

1- Train them to collect all their belongings, weapons excluded
2- Train them to go the fuck home
3- Train them to accept their permanent termination and the absolute and permanent abolition of their agency

ps: the VA ICU Nurse murdered today was not brandishing a gun.
What I love mist about this is the absolute simple mindedness of it. You're like a 13 year old girl whose mom just told you you can't go to the mall with your friends so you think it's ok to smash dishes against the wall and you blame her for it. Then you get mad when she grounds you.
 
Nope. Nobody was aware that the gun was quickly removed a moment before Pretti reached for it to kill some ICE officers.
It is the officers duty to inform the other officers that he has the gun? Did it discharge during the process? Is that what started the ordeal?
These were a bunch of poorly trained keystone cops wannabes.
 
It is the officers duty to inform the other officers that he has the gun? Did it discharge during the process? Is that what started the ordeal?
These were a bunch of poorly trained keystone cops wannabes.
Just like the poorly trained keystone cop wannabe that murdered ashli babbitt in cold blood.
 
What I love mist about this is the absolute simple mindedness of it. You're like a 13 year old girl whose mom just told you you can't go to the mall with your friends so you think it's ok to smash dishes against the wall and you blame her for it. Then you get mad when she grounds you.

Fallacy of false equivalency. And a strawman again.

Shut up, for you have no added value here.
 
It is the officers duty to inform the other officers that he has the gun?
How much time do you think he had to send out an email to that effect? Are you aware of what was going on? Several ICE officers were wrestling with Pretti trying to arrest him and they were all focused on dealing with Pretti's violent resisting arrest.

Seriously, how much time was there between Pretti's gun being grabbed and Pretti reaching for it? 0.86 seconds? I don't know exactly, but Pretti's gun was grabbed just in time to prevent dead ICE officers as well.

Did it discharge during the process?
I don't know. It might have.

Is that what started the ordeal?
Nope. Pretti started the ordeal by bringing a loaded gun to a FAFO with ICE. Pretti was armed and belligerent. He is co-winner of the Minneapolis Darwin Awards.

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These were a bunch of poorly trained keystone cops wannabes.
Nope. They appeared to be well trained.
 
How much time do you think he had to send out an email to that effect? Are you aware of what was going on? Several ICE officers were wrestling with Pretti trying to arrest him and they were all focused on dealing with Pretti's violent resisting arrest.

Seriously, how much time was there between Pretti's gun being grabbed and Pretti reaching for it? 0.86 seconds? I don't know exactly, but Pretti's gun was grabbed just in time to prevent dead ICE officers as well.


I don't know. It might have.


Nope. Pretti started the ordeal by bringing a loaded gun to a FAFO with ICE. Pretti was armed and belligerent. He is co-winner of the Minneapolis Darwin Awards.

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Nope. They appeared to be well trained.
It doesn’t take that long to tell, disarmed! I’ve got the gun!
 
ICE's mission is to make the American people fear them and fear Trump's state.
Nope. Honesty any you are nary to meet.

They are not looking for justice.
ICE does law enforcement, not justice.

They are trying to make you afraid to express an opinion that Trump and the right do not like.
Nope. Conservatives want to hear your opinion. Please, tell us what that is.

What? Don't you even know what your opinion is?

ICE is Trump's army.
Nope. You apparently don't understand law enforcement. I think we just discovered the root of your problem.

They are not working for us.
ICE works for We the People. Right now, ICE is doing exactly what We the People demand that ICE be doing.

Trump uses brutality to make you fear him.
Trump doesn't use brutality. Leftists strive on their own to win Darwin awards.

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He shows he will kill people on the shores of Venezuela because he wants to.
Nope. Trump shows that he will assist world leaders in eradicating criminal threats; all they have to do is ask.

He will beat up and kill protesters in America.
Leftists will do anything and everything to get themselves killed, such as try to kill law enforcement officers. Leftists are the stupidest shitheads on the planet.

He does not have the restraints of a normal president.
If I were to ask you the human population of planet Earth, would you answer "Just one, Donald Trump"?

he does what he wamnts and defies you to do anything about it.
How has Trump defied me?

He is a dangerous and demented man with incredible power.
Explain the "dangerous and demented" part.
 
It doesn’t take that long to tell, disarmed! I’ve got the gun!
I noticed that you weren't one of the officers involved in Pretti's armed assault on ICE. Do you armchair-quarterback often? Who is going to be interviewing you for your expertise and step-by-step analysis of ICE procedures? How did you react the last time you were in that exact scenario?
 
I noticed that you weren't one of the officers involved in Pretti's armed assault on ICE. Do you armchair-quarterback often? Who is going to be interviewing you for your expertise and step-by-step analysis of ICE procedures? How did you react the last time you were in that exact scenario?
I have eyes, I’ve listened to witnesses. I have listened to expert law enforcement who have given their analysis. I have had many family and friends in law enforcement. I know what well trained officers do.
 
I have eyes,
... but you only see what the DNC allows you to see.

I’ve listened to [leftist activists who regurgitate the DNC's party line].
FTFY. You still aren't willing to speak the truth.

I have listened to [yet more leftist activists who regurgitate the DNC's party line] give their [DNC party line]
FTFY. Pretti was armed and belligerent. He assaulted ICE officers while carrying a loaded gun. He violently resisted arrest.

Then we have you blaming ICE. Stupid.

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I have had many family and friends in law enforcement.
Who hasn't?

I know what well trained officers do.
Stupid. You have friends and family in law enforcement and suddenly you're a preeminent law enforcement expert who blames law enforcement for leftists' Darwin awards.

Seriously, who will be interviewing you for this expertise of yours?
 
It is the officers duty to inform the other officers that he has the gun? Did it discharge during the process? Is that what started the ordeal?
These were a bunch of poorly trained keystone cops wannabes.
Another right lie. he did not even have the gun when they began to beat on him. Pretti told them he had a gun. The ICEman in gray took it away. When they decided to shoot him a bunch of times, he was unarmed, and they knew it. Those cops were trained to do exactly what happened. Trump says they have immunity, and to make sure, they wear masks. ICE commits offenses against the law routinely. They had no reason to push that woman down. They were trained to be aggressive and brutal. Trump encourages brutality and breaking the police norms.
 
Yep. They have no business being there.
There are illegal alien criminals there, so yes, they absolutely do have business there, fucktardo.
Pedophile rapist ones that Minnesota for whatever reason released back onto the streets.
So you're defending illegal pedophile rapists? Like my strawman?
Actually, I can pull pull up probably quite a few of them. Ya wanna play?
:D
 
Another right lie. he did not even have the gun when they began to beat on him.
Another leftist lie. Pretti wasn't aware that he had been disarmed and reached for his weapon. Stupid move.

Pretti told them he had a gun.
Which is why they all knew he was packing heat.

The ICEman in gray took it away.
... and nobody knew it at that moment he did, not even Pretti.

When they decided to shoot him a bunch of times, he was unarmed, and they knew it.
Nope. I find your omniscience fallacy amusing. Pretti was disarmed surreptitiously about one second before he was shot. Your claim that EVERYBODY was somehow made aware of this is totally absurd. You are one of the most dishonest shits on the internet. I can't think of a single honest post that you have ever written.

After Pretti was shot, the ICE agents tried to secure Pretti's gun, didn't immediately see it and asked "Where's the gun?" That's when the agent who grabbed it showed them that he had it.

Those cops were trained to do exactly what happened.
No shit. Did you just learn this?

Trump says they have immunity, and to make sure, they wear masks.
What do you believe the masks have to do with immunity?

ICE commits offenses against the law routinely.
Dismissed. You have no plans to support this ridiculous assertion, do you?

They had no reason to push that woman down.
We have another omniscient leftist here who, for some strange reason, still can't get it right.

Trump encourages brutality and breaking the police norms.
Dismissed. You have no plans to support this ridiculous assertion, do you?
 
Shooting an unarmed man who is already dead sounds like a total coward to me, and I did not do that.
What problem do you see with shooting a dead man? I'm curious.

The footage is clear.
It absolutely is.

The ICE agents removed Pretti's gun from his wristband.
Waistband ... and it was ICE agent, singular. Remember, the video is clear.

He never grabbed his gun,
He reached for his gun. He didn't know the gun had been taken, and he reached for it. The video is clear.

and was not armed when they started shooting him.
Nobody knew that. All everyone knew (except for the one, singular ICE agent who snatched the gun) was that Pretti was armed and WAS REACHING FOR HIS GUN.

The video is extremely clear.

They continued to shoot him after he had died.
Two things:

1. When was Pretti pronounced "dead"? The video is clear; no ICE agents shot him after he was pronounced "dead." Your assertion is absurd.
2. What problem do leftists have with a dead man being shot? Are leftists just stupid?

I think it is going to get far worse before there is any hope of getting better.
Given your track record, it will be getting better within the next couple of weeks.


The video confirms that they shot an unarmed man,
The video confirms they shot a violent belligerent who was resisting arrest and who appeared to be reaching for a gun. It looks rather cut-n-dried.

Again, they cannot be exonerated by the video.
The video completely exonerates them.
 
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