Feds: Oil, gas leaking from cap on ruptured well 7/19/2010 6:43:00 PM

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Feds: Oil, gas leaking from cap on ruptured well
7/19/2010 6:43:00 PM

Associated Press/AP Online
they dithered and dithered about whether to draw on the oil via the cap and now it is leaking

By COLLEEN LONG and MATTHEW DALY NEW ORLEANS - BP's broken well was leaking oil and gas again Monday for the first time since the company capped it last week, but the Obama administration's spill chief said it was no cause for alarm. The stopper was left in plac for now.
Ever since the cap was used to bottle up the oil last week, engineers have been watching underwater cameras and monitoring pressure and seismic readings to see whether the well would hold or spring a new leak, perhaps one that could rupture the seafloor and make the disaster even worse.
Small amounts of oil and gas started coming from the cap late Sunday, but "we do not believe it is consequential at this time," retired Coast Guard Adm. Thad Allen said.
Also, seepage from the seafloor was detected over the weekend less than two miles away, but Allen said it probably has nothing to do with the well. Oil and gas are known to ooze naturally from fissures in the bottom of the Gulf of Mexico.
At an afternoon briefing in Washington, Allen said BP could keep the cap closed at least another 24 hours, as long as the company remained alert for leaks.
BP and the government had been at odds over the company's desire to simply leave the cap in place and employ it like a giant cork in a bottle until a relief well being drilled deep underground can be used to plug up the well permanently.

Allen initially said his preference was to pipe oil through the cap to tankers on the surface to reduce the slight chance that the buildup of pressure inside the well would cause a new blowout. That plan would require releasing millions more gallons of oil into the ocean for a few days during the transition - a spectacle BP apparently wants to avoid.
On Monday, Allen budged a bit, saying unless larger problems develop, he's not inclined to open the cap.
Also on the table: Pumping drilling mud through the top of the cap and into the well bore to stop up the oil flow. The idea is similar to the failed top kill plan that couldn't overcome the pressure of the geyser pushing up.
BP said it could work now because there's less oil to fight against, but it wasn't clear how such a method would affect the cap's stability. Allen said the relief well was still the plan for a permanent fix.
BP and the government are still trying to understand why pressure readings from the well are lower than expected. Allen offered two possible explanations: The reservoir the oil is gushing from is dwindling, or there is an undiscovered leak somewhere down in the well.
"I'm not prepared to say the well is shut in until the relief well is done," which is still several weeks away, Allen said. "There are too many uncertainties."
BP and the Coast Guard learned that lesson the hard way after they initially said no oil was coming from the site of the Deepwater Horizon rig after it exploded April 20, killing 11 workers. Even after it became clear there was a leak, the company and its federal overseers drastically underestimated its size for weeks.
Robert Carney, a Louisiana State University expert on biological oceanography, said the seepage is far enough away from the well that it could be occurring naturally.
"You have little bubbles rising up from the bottom frequently; that's the methane gas" he said. "Oil would be a little black dot, more difficult to see. But both escape into the water regularly."
One other possibility: There are around 27,000 abandoned wells in the Gulf and two of them are about two miles away. While officials gave no indication that the seepage was from another well, they're not checked for leaks, according to an Associated Press investigation.
Work on a permanent plug is moving steadily, with crews drilling into the side of the ruptured well from deep underground. By next week, they could start blasting in mud and cement to block off the well for good. Killing the well deep underground works more reliably than bottling it up with a cap.
Somewhere between 94 million and 184 million gallons have gushed into the Gulf over the past three months in one of America's worst environment crises.
BP said the cost of dealing with the spill has now reached nearly $4 billion. The company said it has made payments totaling $207 million to settle claims for damages. Almost 116,000 claims have been submitted and more than 67,500 payments have been made. BP stock was down slightly Monday.
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Daly reported from Washington. Associated Press writers Erica Werner in Washington and David Dishneau in New Orleans contributed to this report.
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Gotta harvest the oil. Of course lib-tards would rather have the ocean polluted then have American petroleum, American jobs and corporate profits.
 
BP would rather have the oil seep from other locations than open the cap again for the two days it would take to set up the harvesting rig, that way they can argue later that it was natural seepage and they should not be responsable.
 
OK, but why?
Jarod actually put forward a logical reason, but nobody can really say why except those making the decision and they have provided no motivation that I have read or heard. It is reality, the administration wants them to start relieving pressure by harvesting while they continue to drill the relief well for a permanent solution.
 
Jarod actually put forward a logical reason, but nobody can really say why except those making the decision and they have provided no motivation that I have read or heard. It is reality, the administration wants them to start relieving pressure by harvesting while they continue to drill the relief well for a permanent solution.
BP would be able to prove that anyway, since seepage occurs naturally all over the Gulf. Nah, I think its due to a technical concern, and those rarely get correctly reported by the press. You don't want to start wrenching on a cap that may not be on good.
 
BP would be able to prove that anyway, since seepage occurs naturally all over the Gulf. Nah, I think its due to a technical concern, and those rarely get correctly reported by the press. You don't want to start wrenching on a cap that may not be on good.
If it is, they need to talk about it in camera. Whether or not somebody is "reporting" it correctly information is their best option if they are at odds with the administration. In this case the administration agrees with you, they should harvest to relieve pressure.
 
If it is, they need to talk about it in camera. Whether or not somebody is "reporting" it correctly information is their best option if they are at odds with the administration. In this case the administration agrees with you, they should harvest to relieve pressure.
The problem is Damo that journalists, in general, loathe science and technical issues. That's why they became journalists instead of engineers or scientists. And they naturally assume, correctly, that most people are the same way. So the technical facts aren't important to them. Plus the politics and drama are much more interesting to them. So the tech stuff rarely gets reported, and if it does gets reported wrong.
 
The problem is Damo that journalists, in general, loathe science and technical issues. That's why they became journalists instead of engineers or scientists. And they naturally assume, correctly, that most people are the same way. So the technical facts aren't important to them. Plus the politics and drama are much more interesting to them. So the tech stuff rarely gets reported, and if it does gets reported wrong.
That's why you state it at a live news conference, regardless of whether people are "reporting" it, the information gets out. Or you put it on your own website (they have one you know).

It isn't like the company exists in a vacuum. They can disseminate the information even if they are "unfairly" reported. At this point you thought the administration was stopping them from harvesting, you've found out differently then attempt to give reasons that the company itself hasn't given. Silence is their enemy, it allows speculation. Even "incorrect" reporting is better than that.
 
why do they have to let the oil flow when there are two outlets built into the cap

why not fit a pair of hoses to the cap outlets and let the oil flow to a processing ship(s)
 
That's why you state it at a live news conference, regardless of whether people are "reporting" it, the information gets out. Or you put it on your own website (they have one you know).

It isn't like the company exists in a vacuum. They can disseminate the information even if they are "unfairly" reported. At this point you thought the administration was stopping them from harvesting, you've found out differently then attempt to give reasons that the company itself hasn't given. Silence is their enemy, it allows speculation. Even "incorrect" reporting is better than that.
Damo I've been there, as an engineer dealing with public discourse on environmental issues. You can speak until you're blue in the face but the journalist will report on the "controversial nature" or the "intensity of the debate" or the "number of people opposed" or the woman who is "worried about her groundwater". When it comes to facts and figures their eyes glaze over. On the national level like this you may see a press conference with technical issues on C-Span but the popular networks will always gloss over the technical portions.
 
Damo I've been there, as an engineer dealing with public discourse on environmental issues. You can speak until you're blue in the face but the journalist will report on the "controversial nature" or the "intensity of the debate" or the "number of people opposed" or the woman who is "worried about her groundwater". When it comes to facts and figures their eyes glaze over. On the national level like this you may see a press conference with technical issues on C-Span but the popular networks will always gloss over the technical portions.
Yet people like you and I could read what they have to say on their website, if they just gave us the information. Instead all you have is speculation.
 
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