I don't know about you, but I don't remember a time in the past 200 years where the people storming churches were the good guys...

Damocles said:
Not being charged yet does not mean the same thing as innocent. Though I think Walz can only be charged by state charges in regard to not reporting known fraud...
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Nor guilt, and as noted, neither has been actually even indicted, which makes it pure innuendo, you don’t send ICE and Gestapo tactics into a city based upon innuendo, well, unless one had another political end in mind
 
Damocles said:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT06ls3WxuE


They just "believed" the pastor was part of ICE....
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They're petulant 3
archives said:
Not condoning such, and the pastor has been associated with ICE, but, and you had to know it was coming, is such any worse than what occurred on 1/6?

It is all political theatre, the Administration’s goal was never about enforcing immigration law, rather creating reality TV for political ends, these dummies are just playing their role exactly as Trump had hoped
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He definitely can count on you twats being brainless idiots.
 
Damocles said:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT06ls3WxuE


They just "believed" the pastor was part of ICE....
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Agreed attacking the church was wrong.

OTOH, the heated rhetoric has been ramped up a lot since 2015. Calling people Nazis is considered "inciting violence" by the MAGA morons but they call anyone who disagrees with Trump RINOs, Marxists, Leftists, Communists, blah, blah, blah. They supported Renee Good being shot in the face. While the storming of the church, especially based upon a rumor, is both stupid and wrong, it's also what's known as blowback due to the violence ramped up by the MAGAts. The threats of deploying the Marines to take out anyone protesting ICE, no matter how peaceful they might be. The events of LA last year. Is it really any wonder why people think Trump is a wannabe king who is willing to use violence to quell dissent?

This will get worse before it gets better and my guess is that a lot of Americans are going to be massacred by Trump's secret police or a Red State National Guard which will create even more blowback.
 
Yakuda said:
Disrupting the business of the federal govt. It's exactly the same.
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Are you agreeing those who attacked the Capitol on 1/6 should have been shot down or should still be in prison?

Why did Trump pardon all of his White Nationalist militia supporters and offer them jobs at ICE?
 
Damocles said:
In what way was the pastor associated with ICE? I keep hearing they thought he was, I have heard no evidence that he was.
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Yes — according to multiple news outlets, the pastor in question is also an ICE official.

Here’s what the sources say:

  • PBS News reports that David Easterwood, listed publicly as a pastor at Cities Church in St. Paul, has personal information that matches the acting director of the ICE St. Paul field office.
  • Religion News Service and CBS News independently report the same: protesters alleged that one of the church’s pastors “also leads the local ICE field office,” and the DOJ confirmed it is investigating the protest incident at the church where this ICE official serves as a pastor.
So the short answer:🟦 Yes — the pastor whose church was disrupted is also an ICE field office director, according to these reports
 
Jake Starkey said:
Yes — according to multiple news outlets, the pastor in question is also an ICE official.

Here’s what the sources say:

  • PBS News reports that David Easterwood, listed publicly as a pastor at Cities Church in St. Paul, has personal information that matches the acting director of the ICE St. Paul field office.
  • Religion News Service and CBS News independently report the same: protesters alleged that one of the church’s pastors “also leads the local ICE field office,” and the DOJ confirmed it is investigating the protest incident at the church where this ICE official serves as a pastor.
So the short answer:🟦 Yes — the pastor whose church was disrupted is also an ICE field office director, according to these reports
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Nonetheless attacking the Church is wrong. They were free to protest outside the church or outside the ICE office, but storming the building with innocent people inside crosses the line.

OTOH, same goes for ICE busting into a church to detain suspects.

peoplesworld.org

ICE now grabbing people out of churches

CHICAGO—ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement), in an ever-expanding unconstitutional crime spree, is ushering in the Christmas season by launching immigration raids inside churches across the country.
peoplesworld.org peoplesworld.org

www.pbs.org

DOJ says it will investigate, press charges after activists disrupt church where Minnesota ICE official is a pastor

A livestreamed video posted on the Facebook page of Black Lives Matter Minnesota shows a group of people interrupting services at the Cities Church in St. Paul by chanting "ICE out."
www.pbs.org www.pbs.org
 
"I don't know about you, but I don't remember a time in the past 200 years where the people storming churches were the good guys..."

Damocles said:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT06ls3WxuE


They just "believed" the pastor was part of ICE....
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Stone said:
Yep.........this is getting to be a bit much now. Actually,...its all been a bit much for awhile now. But storming in on CHURCHES? yeah,.....these people are crazy. High time to start locking people up. All this just because they actually believe that throwing fits like this about ICE is going to make Trump back off on digging deeper into the billions in fraud. Its not,....if Trump is anything its that he's bullheaded. All this nonsense is only going to make him drop the hammer even harder.
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Lionfish said:
You need to understand that the Somalis who benefited the most from the multi billion dollar fraud and the black population do not get along at all.
The Somalis have a highly organized scam organization, and the blacks in most cities are a disorganized group of opportunists.
This particular church attack was led by a black activist who understands that she has to involve the general black
population in the fray, so when the spoils are divvied up, she will get a taste of the action. Her name came up repeatedly when Walz allowed the cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul burn during the Floyd riots.
Think of this like BLM lite.
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Hmmmmmmm...... 🤔

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I guess with trumpers, the poutrage depends on who's doing the storming ...
 
archives said:
Ice is now in Minneapolis investigating fraud?
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Poor anchovies,
ICE is in Minnesota because the spotlight was on the fraud committed by a group of immigrants, many of them illegals.
archives said:
And millions of immigrants live in Minneapolis?
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Did I say millions of immigrants live in Minneapolis?

archives said:
Are you ever correct?
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Yes, most of the time.
archives said:
There are less than half a million immigrants in all of Minnesota, and you got millions in Minneapolis
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No, I did not say millions of immigrants live in MN.
archives said:
((https://lims.minneapolismn.gov/Down...reign-Born-Population-Minneapolis-St-Paul.pdf ) and Minnesota doesn’t have market on fraud
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That was my point. The fraud is spread all over the country, and we all can thank Tampon Tim for being the major cause of the investigation. I am sure you will agree.
For your reference,

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Lionfish said:
Poor anchovies, Billions in stolen takpayer money is not political theater. Millions of undocumented immigrrants is not political theater.
ICE is here enforcing laws because of the above two reasons.

People who do not understand this are the political theater.
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Lionfish said:
Poor anchovies,
ICE is in Minnesota because the spotlight was on the fraud committed by a group of immigrants, many of them illegals.

Did I say millions of immigrants live in Minneapolis?


Yes, most of the time.

No, I did not say millions of immigrants live in MN.

That was my point. The fraud is spread all over the country, and we all can thank Tampon Tim for being the major cause of the investigation. I am sure you will agree.
For your reference,

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Fake ignore is the best. <snicker>
 
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