ZenMode
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No it's not and you know it. Mental illness, viral infections, lightning, etc we're all attributed to extraterrestrial beings and we're all completely explainable by science.
If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book
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ZenMode
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Again, things that were attributed to extraterrestrial beings were later explained by science. You know it's true. Stop playing dumb.
Into the Night
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No such rule in the gospel. The Bible does describe societies with these laws though. Islam still practices them.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
he stated explicitly the golden rules IS THE WHOLE OF THE LAw.
what does that mean to you?
that one statement indicates his intention for it to replace all others.
You're the one who kept bringing up morality. Why get shy about admitting to moral relativism suddenly now?
If nothing is real but matter and energy, then objective morality and truth are delusions. Humans don't have inherent innate value. Everything is just based on opinion, popular whim, or social convention.
Into the Night
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Obviously, you have never read the Bible. It does contain the word of God. It also contains descriptions of societies that disobeyed God. It contains some genealogical information, etc.
It is YOU cherry picking. That's a fallacy.
ZenMode
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Christian denial.
ZenMode
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No he didn't. He references god's law multiple times in the new testament.
ZenMode
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My opinion is irrelevant to Christians. You're trying to change the subject.
Monad Portal
Was it me?
no.
there is morality and there is not morality.
and then there is coping and justification and denial.
ZenMode
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Pointing out what the Bible says, and the fact that it's inconsistent, has nothing to do with me.
ZenMode
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And according to Christians, objective morality comes from their God... even though their God endorses, and ignores, clearly immoral behavior.
Into the Night
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Both of them.
Nothing about the ten commandments makes them the 'top ten'. The gospel is not a song hit chart.
God does not need to glorify Himself, and none of the Ten commands talk about God glorifying Himself.
1. You shall have no other gods before me.
This is not self glorifying. It is a directive. Don't waste your time with false idols (which has been a problem, and still is). Don't worship a statue (graven image). This includes images of Mary, images of Baal, images the Pope, images of Santa Claus. This includes not worshiping the weather, climate, Gaia, etc.
2. Make no idols.
A similar directive. Do not worship anything for God, which gave you life and light.
3. Do not take the Lord's name in vain.
This is similar to the 1st command again, not self glorifying. Worshiping God does not mean using Him as a curse, or to take his gospel lightly.
Let's look at a few others:
4. Keep the Sabbath holy.
This is for the benefit of Man. A day of rest, just as God took. Also a good day to acknowledge what God has done for the world.
5. Honor thy father and mother.
A directive for children. After all, they brought you into this world, and taught you many things about it. The came before you and you can benefit from this experience they have.
Abuse of children is also covered elsewhere in the Bible.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
This means other people. This is referring to the act of murder, not self defense or protecting the public from harm.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultry.
Pretty simple. Don't cheat on your wife, don't spend your time in whorehouses, don't treat sex lightly.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
Pretty simple as well. Don't swipe what isn't yours.
9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
Pretty simple. This not just a council for a courtroom. It is about libel and slander as well. In general gossip is an evil thing.
10. Thou shalt not covet.
Pretty simple as well. Keeping up with the Jones's is an expensive habit, easily lands you into a debt you can't afford, and can lead to stealing and abusing others.
This is not the entirety of the gospel (not even near it!), but it's a good start.
Into the Night
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Into the Night
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He doesn't know what the word means. It's like so many others he doesn't know.
Morals is not 'relativism'. Apparently you don't know what 'morals' means either.
The number one is real. It is neither matter nor energy.
Your perception of why the sun rises is real. It is neither matter nor energy.
Go learn what 'real' means ans how it's defined that way.
No such thing. Morality is simply morality. It is neither subjective nor objective.
Truth is not a delusion.
Sure they do. Food is value. Keeping warm is value. Shelter from the weather is value. Water is value. A pot to piss in has value.
Oh? Try getting along without food, water, shelter, etc. Let me know how it goes.
Into the Night
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There is nothing inconsistent about the gospel, or about God. Go learn what 'fact' means.
Into the Night
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There is no such thing as 'objective morality'. There is just 'morality'. For Christians, their morality comes from the Bible and their own relationship with God.
For you, your morality comes from your religions as well.
Void argument fallacy. Your morals are not the same as Christian morals. Buzzword fallacy.
Into the Night
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Save a child from what?
gfm7175
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Why would the 10 Commandments (ageless moral law) have anything to do with a specific age's societal view of slavery?
Monad Portal
Was it me?
copout faggot.