ZenMode
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What Christians say when they know it all makes no sense.
If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book
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IBDaMann
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That's the topic of discussion.
... and you acknowledge that any group of people can say the same thing about the story of your life, yes? ... especially when examining your posts, correct?
Of what aspects do you speak?
The Bible does not say that Noah built the ark by himself, and an ark is more like a barge than a cruise ship.
... for which you will have a solid point once you prove that no miracles occurred. I'm standing by for that because I'm sure it will be good.
I take it that you don't know the difference between a barge and a cruise ship.
FTFY. I think we're all waiting for your demonstration of a lack of miracles at that time.
It was in the contract they signed prior to boarding.
Yep. That's what they say.
IBDaMann
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Too funny! You are once again diving into another relgious doctrine that claims to be thettled thienth.
Any "date" that one gets from radiometric dating is its age upper limit, not its age.
Into the Night
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Go learn English. It's your biggest problem.
Into the Night
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Buzzword fallacy. YARP
IBDaMann
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God doesn't need to be discussed where he didn't intervene.
ZenMode
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You are just straight up pulling shit out of your ass at this point.
IBDaMann
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Your king is once again tipped.You are just straight up pulling shit out of your ass at this point.
If God doesn't intervene, there is little need to mention Him.
Let me know when you wish to play again.
ZenMode
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It's actually pretty funny how you, @Into the Night and @gfm7175 claim to be all about science one minute and then, when your religious beliefs clearly fly in the face of scientific feasibility, you literally start pulling nonsense out of your asses without breaking stride.
All of you are playing tennis without the net.
The Old Testament doesn't say anything about the age of the Earth, you have to do backflips and gymnastics to come up with an interpretation, and even if it did who cares? Radiometric dating wasn't invented until the 1950, and the Bible is not a scientific report. Your outage is both misplaced and meaningless.
Bottom line: You are fortunate you grew up and inherited a western civilization in which science, capitalism, representative democracy were directly or indirectly a consequence of a Christian monotheistic legacy. A monotheism which viewed a lawfully designed universe to be the logical consequence of an all powerful law-giver.
Complaining about the western tradition and it's Christian legacy is a luxury for you, given that you didn't grow up in a world where Islam, Hinduism, Shamanism didn't take over and dominate the world.
Asserting or suggesting, "There are no gods" or "It is more likely that there are no gods than that there is at least one" IS NO MORE SCIENTIFIC than asserting or suggesting, "There is a GOD" or "It is more likely that there is at least one god than that there are no gods."
Neither theists or atheists make much sense at all.
The constant attacks on theists by atheists is as absurd as Trump constantly attacking Presidents Obama and Biden for incompetence.
Neither theists or atheists make much sense at all.
The constant attacks on theists by atheists is as absurd as Trump constantly attacking Presidents Obama and Biden for incompetence.
gfm7175
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Most of the aspects are quite reasonable, actually.
FTFY. Completely reasonable. People build things by themselves all the time. OR, maybe he had some help... He wasn't the only human in existence at that time...
What do you consider to be a "power tool"? Tools existed and were used. Animals existed and were used. Again, completely reasonable.
I doubt that Noah went around and gathered all of the relevant animals by his lonesome. I suspect that God directed all of them to board the ark. You can consider this event to be a miracle.
FTFY. Arks can float on water for a really long time.
Food isn't magic.
Maybe they had separate enclosures? Otherwise, you can consider this event to be a miracle as well, as God could've directed them to peacefully coexist for the time being (or whatever divine explanation suits your fancy).
See above.
It is not impossible to manage waste. Systems can be (and are) built.
The Bible doesn't say precisely how this was handled. Maybe there were initially lots of carcasses of dead animals for the predators to eat (while the prey populated faster)? Maybe the predators were kept on the ark longer than the prey? Who knows... or maybe it was another miracle.
Yep. That's what happened!And Christians are like "Yep. That's what happened!"
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gfm7175
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I'm "all about science" whenever the subject matter is all about science, and I am "all about religion" whenever the subject matter is all about religion.
What, exactly, aren't you grasping about this?
Freddy Figbottom
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you're an insane idiotic and historically inaccurate fool.
yes. eat your medicine and stay shutted up, fool.
Noah's Ark is a fable. More importantly, there is nothing in Christian doctrine and creed that requires you to believe the Noah story was literally true.
ZenMode
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No backflips or gymnastics, just a reasonable extrapolation based on human life expectancy.
As I said earlier, there are 20 different Biblical claims that fly in the face of what we know from science and physics and your answer for all of them is either ridiculous speculation (maybe there were carcases just laying around!) or to invoke your sky wizard as though the various laws of physics and scientific realities suddenly don't apply on Earth because the sky wizard somehow turns them off.
I don't ever want to hear shit about how pro-science you are. It's all a lie.
ZenMode
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And science, along with reason and common sense, apparently ceases to exist when religion is involved.
Who is saying that?
Seriously, who is making that positive claim?
Because the atheists that you fear the most are the ones who merely fail to believe the claims of a God.
That's a very different thing. But you'd have to be a LOT smarter to understand the difference.
One of my social groups is comprised of Lutherans, I have never heard any of them say anything about atheists. Another social group I'm in are all non-theists and one almost can't get through one meeting without hearing something derogatory about Christians.
Now I have no experience with the fire-and-brimstone fundamentalists; for all I know they might be howling and hand wringing about the scourge of atheism! lol