If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[Into the Night]

If you call not believing very important things on bad evidence a problem, sure?

Evidence is not 'good' or 'bad'. It is simply evidence.

 

[gmark77]

Oh wise one, how I love to bask in your intelligence...... /sarcasm

Seriously, don't debate a topic if you haven't read anything about it. Implicit atheism is a brand of atheism and the most logically robust.

And you are impressed by my intelligence because I know what the meaning of a word is? Wow. You are easily impressed.

 

[gmark77]

Religion is not science, skidmark...

You are so out of your depth on this one.

Science relies on the concept of the "null hypothesis" when testing any given claim. It is a perfectly rational method for assessing the truth value of any claim.

You then gather evidence to test AGAINST the null. If you have sufficient evidence you are sure you are less likely to be making a Type I error (false positive) then you REJECT THE NULL hypothesis.

So far insufficient evidence has been presented to reject the null hypothesis without having a high likelihood of a "false positive" result.

It's the basis of how drugs are tested for efficacy, it's the basis of how any hypothesis is tested. It's even the basis of the justice system in the US (you start with the Null of "not guilty" and then test against that. )

Now, move along. Or learn more about the topic.

 

[Cypress]

Either way, it is an entity that could, and has according to the Bible, made its presence known.

Yes, The ignorance of man has resulted in all kinds of crazy beliefs.

Sure, but a concept has no method for revealing itself or making its presence felt in a way that in all-powerful being would.

I associate the term faith with religion. If you're saying that I have varying degrees of confidence in my beliefs, I would absolutely agree with that.

Agree. Man has used all kinds of writings to infer a god.

I'll let someone, much smarter than I, address that....

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/bwHqrooeYmw?si=K6hADR44ypvwME5u

I didn't make the case Piers Morgan made.

I didn't make the God of the gaps argument Nike Tyson brought up.

Your YouTube video has nothing to do with me and the case I presented.

Niel also said he doesn't know what caused the universe, aka he is agnostic about it.

 

[ZenMode]

RQAA

Lol...of course it was. Questions you don't want to answer are always already answered.

BLNT

 

[ZenMode]

Evidence is not 'good' or 'bad'. It is simply evidence.

Really? So hearsay is equal in quality to first person witnessing?

Oh, let me guess...RQAA.

 

[ZenMode]

I didn't make the case Piers Morgan made.

I didn't make the God of the gaps argument Nike Tyson brought up.

Your YouTube video has nothing to do with me and the case I presented.

Niel also said he doesn't know what caused the universe, aka he is agnostic about it.

You made, and have made, EXACTLY that argument. That which can't be explained by science is explained by a god.

That's quite literally your argument.

 

[Ross Dolan]

LOL. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Glad you enjoyed it.

Look it up if you don't believe me. It's called Implicit Atheism.

You tell me what the definition of atheism is...and then tell me to look up what implicit atheism is. C'mon.

My point is that when someone uses "atheist"...you have to ask other questions, because the word itself is a mess.

Under any circumstances...why not just say what you mean rather than use the word atheist.

Fact is, any atheist uses that word as a self-descriptor because he/she has made a guess that there are no gods. Most hide that fact, because they want to bloviate about being scientific and using evidence....and mocking the theists. But atheists are just like the theists...making guesses about the unknown.

Why do you hold forth on topics you clearly don't even begin to understand?

I have been discussing this topic for fifty years...and I understand it a lot better than you.

Then you didn't read what I wrote. Not surprising given that it appears you don't read much closely.

I read it very carefully. And I can show you definitions of atheism that are much different from the one you gave.

LOL.

Why do you think your ignorance is something anyone who knows the topic is going to be interested in?

If you think you know the topic better or more thoroughly than I...you are mistaken.

But...be smug rather than actually discuss the subject. That is your best bet.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Great. That's atheism (term correctly used)... It's #3 within my examples of positions. You don't accept #1 (God exists), but you also don't accept #2 (God doesn't exist).

I am not sure why you think my position is "atheism"...but it is not.


Anyway, I would love for you to answer my question in the posting that you quoted.

 

[Ross Dolan]

Either way, it is an entity that could, and has according to the Bible, made its presence known.

Yes, The ignorance of man has resulted in all kinds of crazy beliefs.

Sure, but a concept has no method for revealing itself or making its presence felt in a way that in all-powerful being would.

I associate the term faith with religion. If you're saying that I have varying degrees of confidence in my beliefs, I would absolutely agree with that.

Agree. Man has used all kinds of writings to infer a god.

I'll let someone, much smarter than I, address that....

View: https://youtube.com/shorts/bwHqrooeYmw?si=K6hADR44ypvwME5u

Neil deGrasse Tyson proudly identifies as an agnostic.