Socrtease
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40k per year is more than I made right out of law school. I started at the Public Defender's Office at 36k. What a fucking tard. You aren't going to be a mid level manager right out of college.
awwww, the poor little college grad
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HA I worked there for 12 months and hated that company.. BUT for the record that's a sweet entry level position. Its a customer service position but great for learning the business. For a young aggressive person with a decent degree behind them it is by no means a dead end job. They can work there way out of that job into a non phone attached job within 12-18 months.
A dead end job is specializing in something with no job growth. The above job can go to at least 5 different career paths within insurance.
A dead end job is specializing in something with no job growth. The above job can go to at least 5 different career paths within insurance.
cawacko
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ahhhhhh, my bad. Thanks.
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The Almighty
true... but you started out of law school in 1912... so you need to adjust for inflation.
cawacko
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Yeah, when I started in commercial real estate brokerage right out of school they paid us $30k. Being single and living in SF on $30k is not a very glamorous lifestyle.
I cant find where it says what degree he got. If its general management it was a waste of money. its the major at my college that everyone that couldnt hack the accounting, finance, or economic classes fell back into.
The landscape has changed. I would even venture to say that college may not even be worth it anymore unless its a specific degree from a specific college that has a good chance of paying back within 4years.
Rule of thumb dont is dont waste your money on a kids college unless she/he can earn back the value of that degree within 4years.
College cost: 50K per year x 4 = 200k.. kid gets job making avg of 35K over 4 years or 140k = not worth the investment.
I know a guy who went to a maritime college for degree in emergency management. 20k a year instate tuition. 90% of the grads in that major will make 50k starting.. now thats a good investment.
The landscape has changed. I would even venture to say that college may not even be worth it anymore unless its a specific degree from a specific college that has a good chance of paying back within 4years.
Rule of thumb dont is dont waste your money on a kids college unless she/he can earn back the value of that degree within 4years.
College cost: 50K per year x 4 = 200k.. kid gets job making avg of 35K over 4 years or 140k = not worth the investment.
I know a guy who went to a maritime college for degree in emergency management. 20k a year instate tuition. 90% of the grads in that major will make 50k starting.. now thats a good investment.
im not saying non skilled. im just saying you should be looking at college or even other trade type skills as an investment. The age of if you go to college you are going to have a good life is coming to an end.
The future is going to be what degree/skill am i getting what does it cost to get and what is the %/Avg salaries as a new fish.
Gone are the days of spending boatloads of money on your kid for a bullshit degree. Im 35 and my generation has no pension, 10years of a flat market, and high expenses. My generation and younger wont have the loot to send kids to college just for the hell of it.
Topspin
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I dissagree, ask anyone without a degree how hard it is to find a job now at pay they were getting a couple years ago. College is rarely a bad choice, even a general studies degree will get you looked at for thousands of careers that just use the college degree as a dummy screen.
We are on the cusp now. To many crappy colleges turning out crappy degrees now. Its a dime a dozen. Whats better to get a history degree from a 3rd level school or to get a welding certificate from a trade school.
I can tell you what would be cheaper..
and I could tell you what you would make more money with over the course of 10years.
Topspin
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there have always been shitty degrees and a welder or auto mechanic likely always made more than a History major even from a good school. A welder is not unskilled labor. Not that I'd ever want to work that hard.
Topspin
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Cracker ass cracker cawacko, this memory I'm trying to erase.
My Son was recruited by Stanford for a wrestling scholarship. I clipped articles about thier grads business success etc. His coach went to Iowa, he was a 17yr old graduating Sr he picked Iowa.
hahah did onceler really describe a 24 yr old college graduate as a kid?
This must be familar to onceler. He must have spent some time sponging off his parents to have that attitude.
The rest of us have been paying our way since adulthood.
I worked full time at a bank while I was in college. I had to take 3 hr long night courses that met once a week because I was working full time to pay rent and tuition. I was too white to get finacial assitance. They didn't even have the tax credit for tuition at that time either so I got taxed for every penny I tried to invest in my education.
This kid doesn't even know what work is, let alone paying for his bills.
This must be familar to onceler. He must have spent some time sponging off his parents to have that attitude.
The rest of us have been paying our way since adulthood.
I worked full time at a bank while I was in college. I had to take 3 hr long night courses that met once a week because I was working full time to pay rent and tuition. I was too white to get finacial assitance. They didn't even have the tax credit for tuition at that time either so I got taxed for every penny I tried to invest in my education.
This kid doesn't even know what work is, let alone paying for his bills.
What's your point? Are we supposed to feel bad for you?
Clearly, different circumstances demand different responses. And yeah, I have no problem with the characterization of "kid." By kid, I don't mean dependent; I'm talking in terms of life experience.
Topspin
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I'll admit I would be open door to any one of my boys 24, 26, 27 should they find the need and they might. So far they are making decent money.
I raised them to think they needed to man up as soon as school or wrestling/football scholarships ran out. My youngest who partied like me in HS whom I never though would even go to college say's to me on the way to Iowa after a spring and summer roofing with his uncle (Jah bless his uncle) Dad the 100 degree roof is waiting for me if I fail.
I raised them to think they needed to man up as soon as school or wrestling/football scholarships ran out. My youngest who partied like me in HS whom I never though would even go to college say's to me on the way to Iowa after a spring and summer roofing with his uncle (Jah bless his uncle) Dad the 100 degree roof is waiting for me if I fail.
cawacko
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I remember you telling this story. Is your son still happy with his decision today or has he ever said he wishes he went to Stanford?