Hegseth issues an illegal order.

Damocles said:
I think we'll know soon enough. I think it is more likely they will "find" that he didn't order what they are saying he ordered.
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Indeed. But that won't stop the unhinged loons with their next TDS conspiracy theory.

The Russia Russia hoax
The Dossier hoax
The pee video hoax
The Mueller investigation hoax
The Election insurrection hoax
The election interference hoax
The Ukraine Phone Call hoax

It never ends with these halfwits. :palm:
 
signalmankenneth said:
Question, why did they follow an illegal order? Didn't they here what Mark Kelly said about refusing an illegal order?!!

Article 92 and Obeying Orders​

Under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ), Article 92, service members must obey lawful orders. Failure to obey a lawful order can lead to serious punishment, including court-martial.

But there is a key qualifier: the order must be lawful. If an order is manifestly illegal, service members not only may refuse it — they have a duty to do so. Obeying an illegal order can expose a service member to criminal liability.

When Is an Order “Manifestly Illegal”?​

Not every questionable order counts. Courts have held that for an order to be manifestly illegal, its unlawfulness must be clear and obvious. Classic examples include:

  • Orders to target civilians.
  • Orders to falsify official documents.
  • Orders to commit crimes such as theft or assault.
Most operational or deployment orders, even if later challenged in court, are not “obviously” illegal in the moment.

https://www.ucmjlaw.com/article-92-can-service-members-refuse-an-illegal-order/
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Damocles said:
I do not know if they did violate the law. This is what I have stated. anonymous reports that get Democrats excited about "getting Trump" have never been reliable in the past. Do you never learn from history? Wait for information, stop predicting the doom of Donald Trump prematurely, take some time to really satisfy....

East a snickers, you turn into a troll when you're hungry.
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Of course you don't because, like the Epstein Files, Trump has refused to produce evidence these are drug runners or terrorists. All we've seen are videos of killings on the high seas, two survivors returned to their home countries to Trump's chagrin and zero evidence of drugs.

Thanks for the personal attack. It fits you. :thup:
 
Dutch Uncle said:
$20 says it's because he's just another MAGAt cracker retard. :thup:
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:lolup: Going full retard again. :laugh:
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Jarod said:
You still have not answered my question.

Are you saying you do not give a shit if Hegseth is issuing illegal orders?
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When he posts personal attacks against you, then you'll know you're getting to him. LOL

A top Republican and Democrats in Congress suggested on Sunday that American military officials might have committed a war crime in President Trump’s offensive against boats in the Caribbean after a news report said that during one such attack, a follow-up strike was ordered to kill survivors.

The remarks came in response to a Washington Post report on Friday that said that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth had given a verbal order to kill everyone aboard boats suspected of smuggling drugs, and that this led a military commander to carry out a second strike to kill those who had initially survived an attack in early September.

“Obviously if that occurred, that would be very serious, and I agree that that would be an illegal act,” Representative Mike Turner, Republican of Ohio and a former chairman of the Intelligence Committee, said on “Face the Nation” on CBS.
 
Damocles said:
Personally I don't even like blowing up the boats to begin with, if you know where they are and where they are going then arrest them when they get there. It will still deter them, without just blowing up boats because you suspect there are drugs on it.
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I guess it doesn't occur to you that you cannot catch up to boats designed to go over 50 knots on the water. :palm:

They cannot catch them, ergo, you blow them up. It's similar with aircraft. You don't "catch" them. You shoot them down. ;)
 
Jarod said:
You still have not answered my question.

Are you saying you do not give a shit if Hegseth is issuing illegal orders?
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What question? Most of your questions are stupid ass questions.

Whenever you assholes start a sentence with, "Are you saying..." The end of the sentence is always retarded. You're not even clear yourself that hegseth have a illegal order and like always we're discussing unicorn topics with a unicorn lawyer whenever anyone talks to you.
 
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Dutch Uncle said:
Why would any officer violate the law if not given an order to do so? Implied or directly?
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What "law" are you emoting about? There is no law that says we cannot interdict narco terrorists on the open seas. We've been interdicting for most of our existence as a nation you uneducated dotard. The barbary pirates come to mind.

Dutch Uncle said:
While the officer who gave the order will certainly be the first on trial, it will lead up the chain of command to whoever originated the order to "kill them all" to eliminate witnesses.
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More speculative bullshit on the inference that some law was violated. I don't think you can even name what law you are referring to.

Dutch Uncle said:
No doubt this is directly related to the fact two survivors had been previously recovered and the heat that came down on Trump for sending them to their home countries instead of bringing them in for trial...which is SOP.
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No doubt you're full of shit as usual and haven't the slightest clue what you are emoting about.
 
Jarod said:
I agree with your second paragraph, but you did not address the question, I guess it was to braud.

What are your thoughts on Hegseth issuing that order, (if he did), and the military men or women carrying it out?

If Hegseth issued an order to kill everyone, even after the boat was destroyed, was that illegal?
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So, you are speculating that someone issued an order and now demand an answer on a purely hyperbolic speculative claim? STFU dumbass.
 
Truth Detector said:
I guess it doesn't occur to you that you cannot catch up to boats designed to go over 50 knots on the water. :palm:

They cannot catch them, ergo, you blow them up. It's similar with aircraft. You don't "catch" them. You shoot them down. ;)
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If that were true they'd never be able to blow them up, they're just too fast... Follow them with the drone, get them later.
 
FastLane said:
You prove they aren't using anonymous sources. Washington loves to spread lies about people they want to hurt. They use anonymous sources to spread lies.
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It is based on several people.

On the record, are you okay with it being investigated?

Also demonstrate your claim that "Washington loves to spread lies about people they want to hurt."
 
Dutch Uncle said:
Of course you don't because, like the Epstein Files, Trump has refused to produce evidence these are drug runners or terrorists. All we've seen are videos of killings on the high seas, two survivors returned to their home countries to Trump's chagrin and zero evidence of drugs.

Thanks for the personal attack. It fits you. :thup:
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.......TRUMP.....TRUMP......BUT TRUUUUUUMP.....dontchyaknow.....
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