‘Kill Everybody’: Hegseth Reportedly Ordered SEAL Team 6 to Leave No Survivors After Caribbean Boat Strike

I will tell you... This one is very difficult for me. Just blowing up boats with civilian criminals on board doesn't seem like a valid wartime action to me.
What about shooting down a plane that won't land? If armed criminals won't stop for law enforcement, what is to be done?

I am uncomfortable at best with this idea that we should use air to surface missiles to destroy suspected drug cartel boats on open water.
What should be used, harsh language?

I need far more assurance that those boats were actually terrorists bringing drugs to the US
Wait, do you need law enforcement, who share your concerns, to be sufficiently assured, or are you saying that you personally need to review the intelligence before you will support law enforcement activities?

than just watching them blow up and folks asking "what other use" can the boats have.
What is your basis for your rather egregious mischaracterization? I get it, you weren't handed a copy of the evidence. What are we, the public, supposed to be told other than

1. the boat was destroyed,
2. they were shipping drugs,
3. they wouldn't stop for law enforcement because they really didn't believe that the US would actually take any action, but now future drug smugglers will halt when ordered

?

Their frikkin boats, they can be used to travel on water.
Not if they're mooning law enforcement while not stopping.
 
And have never sent their ships in the area to collect any of the scattered drugs as proof when they easily could.
Are you sure about that?

...said it recovered 377 packages of cocaine from the boat which was allegedly carrying 1,000 kilograms, or more than 2,200 pounds, of the drug. The drugs were recovered after "an aerial military strike by the United States against a speedboat of narcoterrorists," the DNCD said.



 
Sounds like one of those illegal orders to me?!!

Defense Secretary
Pete Hegseth reportedly ordered SEAL Team 6 to kill every individual aboard a suspected drug-trafficking boat.

In a Friday report from The Washington Post, sources described the scene and aftermath of the Trump administration’s first Caribbean airstrike in September.

Those with knowledge of the inner workings of the operation claimed Hegseth explicitly told the SEAL Team to leave no survivors. The Washington Post report continued:

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth gave a spoken directive, according to two people with direct knowledge of the operation. “The order was to kill everybody,” one of them said.

A missile screamed off the coast of Trinidad, striking the vessel and igniting a blaze from bow to stern. For minutes, commanders watched the boat burning on a live drone feed. As the smoke cleared, they got a jolt: Two survivors were clinging to the smoldering wreck.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kill-everybody-hegseth-reportedly-ordered-194554215.html

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Not just an illegal order, shooting the survivors is a war crime.
 
Trump and his choices have no respect for human life. To be so casual about killing people from a distance shows serious problems. It is apparent that his whole cabinet feels that way. Trump is not offering a case against them. He pronounces them guilty , executes them and laughs about it. Trumpys do not care about that. Trump is getting closer and closer to a war with Venezuela. He is king, so he can wage war if he feels like it. The right will quietly accept it.
 
Sounds like one of those illegal orders to me?!!

Defense Secretary
Pete Hegseth reportedly ordered SEAL Team 6 to kill every individual aboard a suspected drug-trafficking boat.

In a Friday report from The Washington Post, sources described the scene and aftermath of the Trump administration’s first Caribbean airstrike in September.

Those with knowledge of the inner workings of the operation claimed Hegseth explicitly told the SEAL Team to leave no survivors. The Washington Post report continued:

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth gave a spoken directive, according to two people with direct knowledge of the operation. “The order was to kill everybody,” one of them said.

A missile screamed off the coast of Trinidad, striking the vessel and igniting a blaze from bow to stern. For minutes, commanders watched the boat burning on a live drone feed. As the smoke cleared, they got a jolt: Two survivors were clinging to the smoldering wreck.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/kill-everybody-hegseth-reportedly-ordered-194554215.html

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This 'news' story smells like two-week old fish.

Not one "source" in the article is named. Then there's the FACT that SEAL teams don't operate helicopters, aircraft, or ships. The whole thing reads like it was made up out of thin air--a fiction.

The ship(s) involved aren't named.

This article originally appeared here on the Mediaite web site. Mediaite is a well-known radical Leftist site that regularly posts stuff bordering on conspiracy theories.


In this case, unnamed sources, vague descriptions of locations and persons involved all point to something made up out of thin air.
 
Trump and his choices have no respect for human life. To be so casual about killing people from a distance shows serious problems. It is apparent that his whole cabinet feels that way. Trump is not offering a case against them. He pronounces them guilty , executes them and laughs about it. Trumpys do not care about that. Trump is getting closer and closer to a war with Venezuela. He is king, so he can wage war if he feels like it. The right will quietly accept it.
You and your political party have no respect for human life. To be so casual about people dying from drug poison smuggled into the country from a distance shows serious problems. It is apparent that your whole party feels that way. Youare not offering any solution to help them, you just pronounce that they must die and you laugh about it. Leftists do not care about US citizens, only about foregners. Trump is protecting US citizens. There is no risk of war with Venezuela. The right will quietly fight the good fight.
 
What about shooting down a plane that won't land? If armed criminals won't stop for law enforcement, what is to be done?


What should be used, harsh language?
Evidence and warrants... the military is not the tool for this.
Wait, do you need law enforcement, who share your concerns, to be sufficiently assured, or are you saying that you personally need to review the intelligence before you will support law enforcement activities?
I need there to be more evidence than the previously stated: "What else could those boats be for?" (in this thread).
What is your basis for your rather egregious mischaracterization? I get it, you weren't handed a copy of the evidence. What are we, the public, supposed to be told other than

1. the boat was destroyed,
2. they were shipping drugs,
3. they wouldn't stop for law enforcement because they really didn't believe that the US would actually take any action, but now future drug smugglers will halt when ordered

?
again, I was talking about a post within this thread that gave you a picture of a boat and literally asked, "What else could these boats be used for?"
Not if they're mooning law enforcement while not stopping.
Who cares if they are mooning law enforcement while not stopping. Is that an offence you would say would be good enough to shoot someone in a car during a chase? Asking for a friend.
 
The boats cannot go to America. They are not capable of a 2000 mile trip. Part of the craziness is Trump's claim that they were delivering fentanyl. He does not know what it is, but he figured it would be scary to Trumpys. https://www.dea.gov/clan-lab
  • Long Range: Narco-submarines are capable of travelling vast distances, frequently thousands of miles, to transport illegal drugs from South American production hubs to North American distribution sites.
 
You'd certainly like to pivot to "morality" since all your previous flailings have been baseless. Your problem now, however, is that you have no morality to guide you into establishing a coherent position. You support contract killings and violent lawlessness. You support open borders and tyrannical lawfare. You should have written that you are talking about IMMORALITY here.
No pivot here. Morality has always been at the heart of my opposition to trump's immorality.
This is what I'm talking about. You should have written that for all you know, the people in the boats could have been pawns, but that you only know what the DNC tells you to believe. Those who received FMV from HUMINT and IMINT sources, on the other hand, know full well that those mules were completely aware of their cargo, of their mission, and of their anticipated amazing paychecks.
And you believe that because the biggest LIARS in the history of American government tell you to.
Just admit that you mourn the deaths of vicious narco traffickers and not the deaths of the countless victims of vicious narco traffickers... because it's your IMMORALITY that you are talking about, right?
Just admit that you applaud the deaths of anyone who is a citizen of Central and South America regardless of guilt or innocence. Being a narco trafficker is of minor/secondary importance to you. The main thing is that they look and sound just like those desperate and dirt poor people who try to get into America desperately searching for a chance at having a life free of poverty and violence. The ones you couldn't give a rat's ass about because it's your IMMORALITY at the heart of everything about trump that you support.
Please help me understand your position. Please list here, in this thread, the ten most egregious specific law violations that Trump has committed:

1. ________________________________________
2. ________________________________________
3. ________________________________________
4. ________________________________________
5. ________________________________________
6. ________________________________________
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Ten???

How about 36???

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Evidence and warrants... the military is not the tool for this.
In international waters, the military is the tool for this. Now what?

I need there to be more evidence than the previously stated: "What else could those boats be for?" (in this thread).
We, the public, were assured that our national command authorities had the evidence and that it was conclusive. What more are you saying that you need short of the classified intelligence itself being released to the public?

again, I was talking about a post within this thread that gave you a picture of a boat and literally asked, "What else could these boats be used for?"
I get it. I have seen the same. Our government is not trying to hide the shootdown. Our government is being open and forthright, even sharing videos of the endgame. Are you suggesting that the US should not defend itself against narcotraffickers? If your position is that the US should certainly defend itself, then blowing the fuck out the enemy is what the military does and is what should be expected. Have you ever questioned US Naval intelligence before?

The US Navy has been defending the US for a long time and I don't recall you complaining previously that more information was needed for the Navy to do what it does. Have you ever demanded that the US Navy secure warrants before engaging an enemy?

Who cares if they are mooning law enforcement while not stopping.
Everyone should care. That's the crux of the matter. If the US Navy tells your ship to stop, you stop. If you moon the US Navy and keep evading, you get the fuck blown out of you.

Yes, it's everything.

Is that an offence you would say would be good enough to shoot someone in a car during a chase?
In international waters, yes. Not only would that be good enough to warrant a shoot-down, it is the only possible response.

Let me ask you, should the police just not enforce the law if the violator simply refuses to be aprehended?

Asking for a friend.
Answering for a friend.
 
No pivot here. Morality has always been at the heart of my opposition to trump's immorality.
... then you've got nothing.

How about 36???
You don't have any.

Letitia James' lawfare was totally bogus and the fines were eventually tossed. You put your own immirality on display for supporting the indefensible lawfare of that level of tyranny.

The Supreme Court will be vacating the ridiculous E. Jean Carrol awards. You've got nothing.

So, get back to the list. Give me the top ten law violations that Trump has committed.
 
No pivot here.
You haven't stopped pivoting and have never started being honest.

Just admit that you applaud the deaths of anyone who is a citizen of Central and South America regardless of guilt or innocence.
Nope. I don't want to see anyone die. I'm not a Democrat. I'm not a leftist. I am not affiliated with the party of death.

Being a narco trafficker is of minor/secondary importance to you.
Remind me when you became empowered to declare what is important to me.

The main thing is that they look and sound just like those desperate and dirt poor people who try to get into America desperately searching for a chance at having a life free of poverty and violence.
You have a shitty view of foreigners. You treat them as subhuman. You write like a privileged person whose bigotry is on full display.

I hate to interrupt your raving, but please get back to the topic. You were explaining why the US federal government shouldn't protect Americans from international threats. You were explaining how you HATE America and Americans. Please continue elaborating.
 
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