You must refuse illegal orders!

QP! said:
The very fact a ruling and appeal might come to differing conclusions and you do not know how the ultimate ruling will end up is why it is important for leaders to not put those under their charge of potentially being on the wrong side of the law when the finally ruling comes down.

If you have leaders who do not put those under their charge first and tell them to hold off until the ruling is finalized, so they do not end up on the wrong side of the law is why OTHERS should remind them that saying 'I was only following orders' will not be a defense to any law breaking was done.
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What 'law breaking'?
 
Nomad said:
He ordered Mike Pence to UNLAWFULLY refuse to confirm the electoral vote count after the 2020 election, trumptrash.
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What 'electoral vote'?? There was no 2020 election, Sybil.
Nomad said:
If he'd order his VP to something as blatantly illegal as that, are you so fucking stupid and blind that you don't think he'd order the military to do something illegal as well?

Or is it just a case of when trump does something illegal, you just don't give a shit?

Keep in mind also, that these boat strikes in the ocean off the coast of South America with no proof or evidence of wrongdoing and no due process, have all been UNLAWFUL.

Brainhater.
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It is lawful to destroy pirates and drug runners at sea.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
What? Are you really claiming that illegal orders are commonly given on a regular basis?
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I can see how a stupid person reading my post might take that away but a smart person reading my post would see i said nothing like that. Not even close.

My statement had NOTHING to do with how often illegal orders are given.

The reason military academies, police academies and law schools all teach that has nothing to do with the frequency of the illegal orders given.

You really need to try and be a less stupid person.

Trump is consistently pushing people around him to partake in illegal activities on his behalf which resulted in his first administration and Campaign team having more indictments and convictions than all other Presidential campaigns combined.

Reminding the service people who work for him that 'follow orders' will not save them from indictment and conviction so they should remember their duty to obey the law and not follow any orders that would see them break it, is just sound advice.
 
Military lawyers are saying what I'm saying.

Troops risk court-martial if they follow Democrats’ ‘illegal orders’ advice, former military lawyers warn​

www.foxnews.com

Troops risk court-martial if they follow Democrats’ ‘illegal orders’ advice, former military lawyers warn

While the lawmakers behind the video framed the appeal as a defense of the Constitution, military legal codes make clear that refusing orders can carry devastating penalties.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com

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Just follow orders or obey the law? What US troops told us about refusing illegal commands

A majority of service members understand the distinction between legal and illegal orders.
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martin said:
Good question. It sounds like Trump is apoplectic at the suggestion his militarization of American cities is subject to the law. What a cross he bears…
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It's disturbing how many of his followers see nothing wrong with that militarization. Thankfully they are too few in number, and mostly far too old, to do anything but carp about it.
 
QP! said:
I can see how a stupid person reading my post might take that away but a smart person reading my post would see i said nothing like that. Not even close.

My statement had NOTHING to do with how often illegal orders are given.

The reason military academies, police academies and law schools all teach that has nothing to do with the frequency of the illegal orders given.

You really need to try and be a less stupid person.

Trump is consistently pushing people around him to partake in illegal activities on his behalf which resulted in his first administration and Campaign team having more indictments and convictions than all other Presidential campaigns combined.

Reminding the service people who work for him that 'follow orders' will not save them from indictment and conviction so they should remember their duty to obey the law and not follow any orders that would see them break it, is just sound advice.
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You're right. To equate stating the truth and telling others to obey our laws with "sedition" is just more of the #Gropingfuehrer's hyperbole, grievance, and divisiveness.

We can just about guarantee that if these had been (R) politicians during the administration of a (D) POTUS, the MAGATs would be cheering them on.
 
martin said:
Sad all this MAGA happy talk about putting the military in American cities. What this thread is really about.
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There would be no need for the military in American cities, Marty, if your terrorist friends would stop attacking ICE agents and rioting.

You loons are a hoot, Your intentionally open borders brought drug dealing, child raping, illegal terrorists into America and when our LE has to deal with the problem that you caused, you squeal.

Too funny…not.
 
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SmarterthanYou said:
those 6, at the least, by issuing a very vague statement with zero followup of what is, and isn't, illegal
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By telling the truth? It is ok to refuse unlawful orders.

You guys are hysterical. If TACO says it, you don’t care how stupid it is, you run with it.
 
Yakuda said:
Post #45 you retarded fuck head

"Sorry, I do not have the time, there are many accounts on the internet, its not so important to me that you be educated, illustrating your ignorance to you and others is enough for me."
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Many accounts of the Mi Lai massacre.
 
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