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[Scott]

Well, we agree on the innefective vaccine part at any rate.

ineffective and cancer and disease causing.

be fair.

You're preaching to the choir with me when it comes to covid vaccines. As you may remember, I started a thread on the mRNA covid vaccines a while back:

Thread 'Inside mRNA Vaccines: The Movie'

Aug 12, 2025

Just finished watching the film that shares the title of this thread. As some here know, I no longer believe in biological viruses, so I don't agree with that part of the documentary, but the focus is on the mRNA vaccines, and I thought that part was quite well done, including some video testimonials of some who have shown clear signs of being injured from these vaccines. Anyway, the film can be seen free of charge here:

Inside mRNA Vaccines: The Movie

This hard-hitting film rips the lid off the disastrous mRNA rollout — with stunning 3D animation and unfiltered testimony from the world’s leading experts.

www.thefocalpoints.com

Constructive feedback welcome.

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[Scott]

what do we call people who knowingly inject poison into the population at large using government coercion and profiting from it?

Ask yourself this- how many people who inject others with one of the covid vaccines believe that they're injecting them with poison? I suspect that number is quite low. Also, I think that a lot of the people doing the injecting aren't making a lot of profit from it- I think for most, it's just part of their job description.

 

[Scott]

What question?

You found the question in your next post, I'll get to that post now.

 

[Scott]

I think it's good to hear that you're not claiming you're unbiased. I suspect no one is completely unbiased.

I don't find the concept interesting.

What concept?

The concept of bias. Like asking whether people want to eat food to survive.

I suspect you're suggesting that everyone is biased, which I suspect is true. That being said, I think people rarely think about how their biases affect their interactions with others and how they sometimes make it so that they don't see the truth because of them.

 

[Freddy Figbottom]

Feel free to provide any evidence you have that domer is a "big pharma fascist depopulation Nazi".

I'm happy with my position.

it is evident.

ask him yourself.

nobody has denied it.

 

[Scott]

Feel free to provide any evidence you have that domer is a "big pharma fascist depopulation Nazi".

I'm happy with my position.

Alright, I just wanted to know if you actually had any evidence for your position. It appears that you don't.

 

[Yakuda]

I -think- what you're saying is that gay people could still marry heterosexually before 2004, if that was their desire. Is that what you mean?

What I mean is no one ews refused marriage because they are gay. Desire is not a consideration of the law. If you want to discuss this start a different thread

 

[Yakuda]

Well, Trump has now won and, unfortunately, we now have injustices, Trump style. Again from Hedges' article:
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Oswald Spengler in “The Decline of the West” predicted that, as Western democracies calcified and died, a class of “monied thugs,” people such as Trump, would replace the traditional political elites. Democracy would become a sham. Hatred would be fostered and fed to the masses to encourage them to tear themselves apart.

[snip]

All cults are personality cults. Cult leaders are narcissists. They demand obsequious fawning and total obedience. They prize loyalty above competence. They wield absolute control. They do not tolerate criticism. They are deeply insecure, a trait they attempt to cover up with bombastic grandiosity. They are amoral and emotionally and physically abusive. They see those around them as objects to be manipulated for their own empowerment, enjoyment and often sadistic entertainment. All those outside the cult are branded as forces of evil, prompting an epic battle whose natural expression is violence.
**

Source:

Chris Hedges: The Politics of Cultural Despair

It is despair that is killing us. It fosters what Roger Lancaster calls “poisoned solidarity,” the intoxication forged from the negative energies of fear, envy, hatred and a lust for violence.

scheerpost.com

And we had we had injustices Biden style and obama style. Now what?

 

[Scott]

I -think- what you're saying is that gay people could still marry heterosexually before 2004, if that was their desire. Is that what you mean?

What I mean is no one ews refused marriage because they are gay.

Sure, as long as the marriage was a heterosexual one, right? I think what you're saying is akin to what Henry Ford said back in the day when Ford only made one color of car:
"You can have any color you like, as long as it's black".

 

[Scott]

Well, Trump has now won and, unfortunately, we now have injustices, Trump style.

And we had we had injustices Biden style and obama style. Now what?

Work towards a world where such injustices no longer happen, regardless of style. There's a line from one of Frank Herbert's Dune books that I think encapsulates what I'm trying to say here:
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Remember that there exists a certain malevolence about the formation of any social order. It is the struggle for existence by an artificial entity. Despotism and slavery hover at the edges. Many injuries occur and, thus, the need for laws. The law develops its own power structure, creating more wounds and new injustices. Such trauma can be healed by cooperation. The summons to cooperate identifies the healer.

• The Stolen Journals

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Source:

Dune - Wikiquote

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[Yakuda]

Sure, as long as the marriage was a heterosexual one, right? I think what you're saying is akin to what Henry Ford said back in the day when Ford only made one color of car:
"You can have any color you like, as long as it's black".

No a gay man could have always married a gay woman. That marriage would not have been stopped because they were gay. If a law I discriminatory you have to show it stops people from gaining access to something because of, in this case being gay

 

[Scott]

Sure, as long as the marriage was a heterosexual one, right? I think what you're saying is akin to what Henry Ford said back in the day when Ford only made one color of car:
"You can have any color you like, as long as it's black".

No a gay man could have always married a gay woman. That marriage would not have been stopped because they were gay.

Agreed. However, a gay man couldn't have married another gay man and a gay woman couldn't have married another gay woman.

If a law I discriminatory you have to show it stops people from gaining access to something because of, in this case being gay

The issue was never that it was discriminatory because it stopped some from marrying heterosexually. It was discriminatory because it stopped people from marrying homosexually. The courts have largely agreed at this point, which is why the only parts of the U.S. where same sex marriages aren't licensed and recognized are the America territories of American Samoa and some native tribal lands.

 

[Yakuda]

Work towards a world where such injustices no longer happen, regardless of style. There's a line from one of Frank Herbert's Dune books that I think encapsulates what I'm trying to say here:
**
Remember that there exists a certain malevolence about the formation of any social order. It is the struggle for existence by an artificial entity. Despotism and slavery hover at the edges. Many injuries occur and, thus, the need for laws. The law develops its own power structure, creating more wounds and new injustices. Such trauma can be healed by cooperation. The summons to cooperate identifies the healer.

• The Stolen Journals

**
Source:

Dune - Wikiquote

en.wikiquote.org

You will never wile injustice when humans have power over other humans. That's the problem today. The govt has gotten so big it doesn't feed the people anymore. Therefore the govt ceases to a servant to the people but becomes a weapon for those currently in power to punish opponents for previous injustice perpetrated against them.

 

[Yakuda]

Agreed. However, a gay man couldn't have married another gay man and a gay woman couldn't have married another gay woman.



The issue was never that it was discriminatory because it stopped some from marrying heterosexually. It was discriminatory because it stopped people from marrying homosexually. The courts have largely agreed at this point, which is why the only parts of the U.S. where same sex marriages aren't licensed and recognized are the America territories of American Samoa and some native tribal lands.

Neither could a straight man or a straight woman. So....

Im married and no one asked me if I straight or gay before I got married. Same with my wife. You're assuming when a man and a woman marry it's because they are heterosexual.

 

[Scott]

You will never wile injustice when humans have power over other humans. That's the problem today. The govt has gotten so big it doesn't feed the people anymore. Therefore the govt ceases to a servant to the people but becomes a weapon for those currently in power to punish opponents for previous injustice perpetrated against them.

I agree that injustices are frequently perpetrated because of previous injustices. The only thing we can do is try to stop the cycle of injustices- in general, people can't do that on the national level, but we -can- try to be nicer to the people we interact with and also refrain from responding in kind we are attacked verbally.

 

[Scott]

Agreed. However, a gay man couldn't have married another gay man and a gay woman couldn't have married another gay woman.

The issue was never that it was discriminatory because it stopped some from marrying heterosexually. It was discriminatory because it stopped people from marrying homosexually. The courts have largely agreed at this point, which is why the only parts of the U.S. where same sex marriages aren't licensed and recognized are the America territories of American Samoa and some native tribal lands.

Neither could a straight man or a straight woman. So....

Im married and no one asked me if I straight or gay before I got married. Same with my wife. You're assuming when a man and a woman marry it's because they are heterosexual.

No, I'm not making that assumption at all. I'm simply saying that, prior to 2004, no U.S. state allowed same sex marriage. Now, every state allows it, with the only holdouts being the American Samoa U.S. territory and some native tribal lands.

 

[Yakuda]

I agree that injustices are frequently perpetrated because of previous injustices. The only thing we can do is try to stop the cycle of injustices- in general, people can't do that on the national level, but we -can- try to be nicer to the people we interact with and also refrain from responding in kind we are attacked verbally.

We can do it nationally but we don't have the stomach for it. The gift is too big and too many people depend on it. That's a cancer. This becomes a matter of "survival" not just an exchange not ideas. I think that's why these times are so vitriolic, it's not about ideas anymore it's survival. There are people that actually believe they can't survive without govt and Democrats in particular.

 

[Yakuda]

No, I'm not making that assumption at all. I'm simply saying that, prior to 2004, no U.S. state allowed same sex marriage. Now, every state allows it, with the only holdouts being the American Samoa U.S. territory and some native tribal lands.

Right and the law didn't prevent gay people from marrying because they were gay. Also no state allowed marrying animals either should we legalize the too? How about marrying your sibling?

 

[QP!]

the political division and split in American society is a deliberate design by the Federalist Society and Supreme Court Justice John Roberts.

It is directly tied to 'unlimited dark money in politics', and 'extreme gerrymandering'.

When you allow extreme gerrymandering creating safe seats it REQUIRES a politician trying to be successful to appeal and spur on the extremes in their party. You simply will not win trying to be a centrist or uniter.

the reason they are pushing is because they want to remake the US governance system of one of 'minority rule forever' seeing the threat that America was heading towards being a majority minority country.

That was something they could not tolerate as it was clear for the Republicans to continue winning they would have to embrace brown and black people and women voters and maybe even promote them to top positions including running for POTUS.

For the hard core right racists and misogynists (Steven Miller types) that was a no go. Better to break the system then embrace winning with a big tent diverse party, which they really had a good chance to do.

 

[Nordberg]

Sorry, just bullshit. Trump is the problem. Has nothing to do with a divided nation.

He is dividing it deliberately. He talked about us against them. He pushes, hating the left. and demonizes them with insulting and childish names which are used on this board tirelessly. Not buillshit, but a plan carried out by the right.