SCOTUS protects marriage equality

ZenMode said:
Great, so then you'd be ok with changing all laws to allow same-sex marriage under the term "marriage", so that all legally recognized couples are recognized equally, right?

For you, this is ONLY a question of legality?
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You really can't understand things can you? Marriage is the union of one man one woman. If you want to be married you need to marry someone of the opposite sex. If you want to "marry" a chicken it's a civil union.
 
ZenMode said:
Why would I give up defending equal rights for all Americans... Not Americinis.

It's infinitely stupid that we would allow marriage for only those who have mismatched genitals.
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First marriage isn't a right and second no gay person was denied marriage because of their gayness. Third, straight people couldn't marry someone of the same sex therefore everyone was treated the same. You haven't shown any evidence of either.

Right they could have a civil union.
 
Yakuda said:
First marriage isn't a right and second no gay person was denied marriage because of their gayness. Third, straight people couldn't marry someone of the same sex therefore everyone was treated the same. You haven't shown any evidence of either.

Right they could have a civil union.
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You keep playing this dumb game where you ignore the fact that a gay person does not want to marry a person of the opposite sex.
 
Let's apply The logic of @Yakuda @gfm7175 and @IBDaMann to voting:

Government: "every legally registered voter is allowed to vote for the Democratic candidate of their choice"

Conservatives: "but, but, but... We don't want to vote for a Democratic candidate. We want to vote for the Republican candidate."

Government: "There is no issue here. Everyone has the same right to vote for the Democratic candidate of their choice."
 
ZenMode said:
You keep playing this dumb game where you ignore the fact that a gay person does not want to marry a person of the opposite sex.
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I'm going to try again, are straight people required to show they want to marry the person they are going to marry? If not then want is useless bullshit.
 
ZenMode said:
Let's apply The logic of @Yakuda @gfm7175 and @IBDaMann to voting:

Government: "every legally registered voter is allowed to vote for the Democratic candidate of their choice"

Conservatives: "but, but, but... We don't want to vote for a Democratic candidate. We want to vote for the Republican candidate."

Government: "There is no issue here. Everyone has the same right to vote for the Democratic candidate of their choice."
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That's a good effort B+. Here's the difference in your scenario the government is dictating which party you can vote for. The one man one woman law only defines what constitutes a marriage just like the define who is a valid voter. Hey but a B+ is pretty good. You should feel good about yourself
 
Yakuda said:
That's a good effort B+. Here's the difference in your scenario the government is dictating which party you can vote for. The one man one woman law only defines what constitutes a marriage just like the define who is a valid voter. Hey but a B+ is pretty good. You should feel good about yourself
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Generally, there are three voting options. You vote Democrat, you can vote Republican and you can vote for what is generically called a third party

They are also three options for marriage. Woman and woman, man and woman and man and man.

My example uses exactly your logic. The government isn't saying can't vote. They are just saying that you can only vote for one of three options and, in doing so, everyone has equal opportunity, right?
 
ZenMode said:
Generally, there are three voting options. You vote Democrat, you can vote Republican and you can vote for what is often called a third party

They are also three options for marriage. Woman and woman, man and woman and man and man.

My example uses exactly your logic. The government isn't saying can't vote. They are just saying that you can only vote for one of three options and, in doing so, everyone has equal opportunity, right?
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No it's about what constitutes a legal voter just like what constitutes a legal marriage. You keep trying to shoe horn the issue of want into the discussion. It's fine if you want to do that but you first have to show that the govt requires proof you want to marry the person you are going to marry.
 
Yakuda said:
No it's about what constitutes a legal voter just like what constitutes a legal marriage.
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Correct. A legal voter, in my example, is one that votes for a Democratic candidate. A legal married couple is one that is a male and female.

The second and third options are off the table.
 
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