I am very happy that we will no longer be lectured by Kamala voters over gerrymandering.

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‘Extreme’ gerrymander: Utah judge rejects GOP lawmakers’ congressional map, picks districts favoring Democrats​

The map submitted by Republicans “does not comply with Utah law,” Judge Dianna Gibson wrote.​

(Francisco Kjolseth | The Salt Lake Tribune) Third District Judge Dianna Gibson holds a hearing on Utah’s congressional district maps in Salt Lake City on Thursday, Oct. 23, 2025.

Utah will get one or two of Utah's four congress critters, which will cut the GOP by one or two seats.

(Francisco Kjolseth | The Salt Lake Tribune) Third District Judge Dianna Gibson holds a hearing on Utah’s congressional district maps in Salt Lake City on Thursday, Oct. 23, 2025.
By https://author-service-images-prod-us-east-1.publishing.aws.arc.pub/sltrib/018796ae-a238-4261-8b37-b91a265f498b.png Robert Gehrke
| Nov. 11, 2025, 12:59 a.m.
| Updated: 10:17 a.m.
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Third District Judge Dianna Gibson rejected new congressional boundaries proposed by Republican legislators late Monday night, instead choosing a map that will create a heavily Democratic-leaning district in Salt Lake County and shake up Utah’s political landscape.

“In short, [the Legislature’s map] does not comply with Utah law,” Gibson wrote in her ruling. “Because the Lieutenant Governor’s November 10, 2025, deadline for a map to be finalized is upon us, the Court bears the unwelcome obligation to ensure that a lawful map is in place, which the Court discharges by adopting” a map submitted by the plaintiffs in the yearslong lawsuit.

The map Gibson selected makes a district of the northern portion of Salt Lake County, and splits Utah County into eastern and western districts, ultimately creating a district that truly favors Democrats for the first time in a quarter century.

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:lolup: Brainless Kamala voting moron doesn't think California, New Mexico, New York, Connecticut, Maryland or Massachusetts have gerrymandered districts. :laugh:
 
EdwinA said:
I don't know; some 30% of them identify as faggots and most of the rest are pretty loony, so I think Jake may be one of those himself. Credibility as a professional standard disappeared from the 'mental health' industry in the 1970's, so it's now a magnet for halfwit deviants like Jake.
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he's not even a psychologist.

that's all a lie.

he's fake as fuck.

he doesn't know basics.
 
Walt said:
Both declared war on us and attacked us, much like the Republicans started the wrong time gerrymandering. Democrats responded by doing their own, but can still complain about Republicans starting it.
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Actually, in Germany's case, an argument can be made the US attacked Germany first. During 1940 and 41, the US mounted "Neutrality patrols" in international waters in the Atlantic and were also escorting convoys of often foreign flag ships headed to or from England. In those patrols the USN attacked with the intent to sink German U-boats. The German U-boat crews responded in kind torpedoing several US destroyers including sinking one.

FDR, as Commander-in-Chief authorized that and it amounted to an undeclared war on Germany.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Actually, in Germany's case, an argument can be made the US attacked Germany first. During 1940 and 41, the US mounted "Neutrality patrols" in international waters in the Atlantic and were also escorting convoys of often foreign flag ships headed to or from England. In those patrols the USN attacked with the intent to sink German U-boats. The German U-boat crews responded in kind torpedoing several US destroyers including sinking one.

FDR, as Commander-in-Chief authorized that and it amounted to an undeclared war on Germany.
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So U-boats sinking commercial merchant vessels in the open seas were there legally and should not have been stopped? :palm:
 
Truth Detector said:
So U-boats sinking commercial merchant vessels in the open seas were there legally and should not have been stopped? :palm:
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Wrong! The Germans declared an exclusion zone around England and announced they would attack shipping at will within it. With US help, the British were making that hard for the Germans so they expanded the zone to the Eastern Atlantic.

Non-US flag merchant ships are not necessarily protected by the US. We can, but it's optional. Ships carrying war materials and supplies to a nation at war are fair game for the other side to seize or sink. It's commonly referred to as a guerre de course. This has been a facit of naval warfare since ancient times.

The USN was ordered by FDR to start escorting shipping because the RN was short on escorts to a point in the mid-Atlantic known as the MOMP (Mid-Ocean Meeting Point). The USN and RN were colluding to actively fight German U-boats waging war on Britain. The US being neutral had no legal justification to be attacking German submarines in the Atlantic in a declared war zone, but they did.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Wrong! The Germans declared an exclusion zone around England and announced they would attack shipping at will within it. With US help, the British were making that hard for the Germans so they expanded the zone to the Eastern Atlantic.

Non-US flag merchant ships are not necessarily protected by the US. We can, but it's optional. Ships carrying war materials and supplies to a nation at war are fair game for the other side to seize or sink. It's commonly referred to as a guerre de course. This has been a facit of naval warfare since ancient times.

The USN was ordered by FDR to start escorting shipping because the RN was short on escorts to a point in the mid-Atlantic known as the MOMP (Mid-Ocean Meeting Point). The USN and RN were colluding to actively fight German U-boats waging war on Britain. The US being neutral had no legal justification to be attacking German submarines in the Atlantic in a declared war zone, but they did.
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Trying to argue that we started the war with Germany because we defended ships from U-boats is about as moronic as Newsome saying he hates liars.
 
T. A. Gardner said:
Actually, in Germany's case, an argument can be made the US attacked Germany first. During 1940 and 41, the US mounted "Neutrality patrols" in international waters in the Atlantic and were also escorting convoys of often foreign flag ships headed to or from England. In those patrols the USN attacked with the intent to sink German U-boats. The German U-boat crews responded in kind torpedoing several US destroyers including sinking one.

FDR, as Commander-in-Chief authorized that and it amounted to an undeclared war on Germany.
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Sure, the US did good. And good for attacking the drug pirates on the high seas.
 
Jake Starkey said:
And T D continues to babble, frothe, and gaslight.
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Projection

The process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another.

What Are Internet Trolls?​

If you've been on the internet for any period of time, you've likely run into a troll at some point. An internet troll is someone who makes intentionally inflammatory, rude, or upsetting statements online to elicit strong emotional responses in people or to steer the conversation off-topic. They can come in many forms. Most trolls do this for their own amusement, but other forms of trolling are done to push a specific agenda.
 
Truth Detector said:
Projection

The process of displacing one’s feelings onto a different person, animal, or object. The term is most commonly used to describe defensive projection—attributing one’s own unacceptable urges to another.

What Are Internet Trolls?​

If you've been on the internet for any period of time, you've likely run into a troll at some point. An internet troll is someone who makes intentionally inflammatory, rude, or upsetting statements online to elicit strong emotional responses in people or to steer the conversation off-topic. They can come in many forms. Most trolls do this for their own amusement, but other forms of trolling are done to push a specific agenda.
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:ohboy:
 
Truth Detector said: But that isn't declaring war silly goofball.
T. A. Gardner: It's just short of war.
Jake Starkey: We all lose something if war happens, but MAGA will lose all.
 
Walt said:
Both declared war on us and attacked us, much like the Republicans started the wrong time gerrymandering. Democrats responded by doing their own, but can still complain about Republicans starting it.
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so Republicans just starting gerrymandering after it being a solid Democrat tradition is the wrong time?

wow.

:tardthoughts:

I have the most hope for republicans if they can shed the globalist Zionist demons.
 
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