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Supreme Court Upholds Law School's Anti-Discrimination Policy

The Supreme Court on Monday upheld a state law school's anti-discrimination policy that requires recognized student groups to admit "all comers" as members, over the objection of a religious group that did not want to allow nonadherents to join. The Christian Legal Society chapter at the University of California Hastings College of the Law argued that the policy violated its First Amendment rights to free expression, free exercise of religion and freedom of association by requiring it to allow members who do not share their religious beliefs.

But the high court ruled, 5-4, that the policy is a "reasonable and viewpoint-neutral" condition placed on becoming a recognized group, which entitles organizations to certain funding and access to campus facilities. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg noted that the religious group is free to exclude nonadherents if it forgoes recognized status. "Hastings ... is dangling the carrot of subsidy, not wielding the stick of prohibition," Ginsburg wrote. She dismissed concerns voiced by the society that the policy would encourage "hostile takeovers" of groups like theirs by nonadherents whose aim is sabotage. "This supposition strikes us as more hypothetical than real," she wrote. "Students tend to self-sort."

The policy, Ginsburg said, also serves the valid purpose of encouraging tolerance and diversity, and of declining to subsidize discrimination.

In a sharply worded dissent, Justice Samuel Alito Jr. said the Court's decision is "deeply disappointing" and will give state universities "a handy weapon for suppressing the speech of unpopular groups." He also argued that there is evidence in the record that the university enforced the policy selectively to target the Christian Legal Society. Chief Justice John Roberts Jr. and Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas joined Alito's dissent.

"The Supreme Court has now enshrined political correctness as a central tenet in American society and in American university life," said John Whitehead, president of The Rutherford Institute, which filed a brief supporting the society. "It will force well-meaning groups to abandon the tenets of their faith in order to be granted the same privileges and freedoms afforded to other campus groups and organizations. If not, they will face discrimination."

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schizo as in multiple personalities......nine people by definition have at least nine personalities.....okay, you win.....

by the way, did you hear that following the recent influx of new members, Planned Parenthood passed a resolution to use all PAC money to lobby for the outlawing of abortion......in other news, the Sierra Club voted to invest all it's funds in BP stock and Peta opened a McDonalds......
 
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Schizo as in lots of 5-4 decisions or did you have something else in mind?
Schizo in that on one hand they find that the 2d amendment applies to individuals, that it is a basic freedom, but then finding that a group of like minded individuals that they have to accept people that are not like minded. Lefties love this decision because it involves a rightwing religious legal organization, but this kind of rule can run the other way as well. The school should either let students form groups based on ideological beliefs or not at all. A law school, a place that should understand the right and freedom to associate should understand not trying to force any group to accept whoever applies. This means homophobes can join GLBT groups and be hateful and disruptive and nothing can be done about it.
 
Schizo in that on one hand they find that the 2d amendment applies to individuals, that it is a basic freedom, but then finding that a group of like minded individuals that they have to accept people that are not like minded. Lefties love this decision because it involves a rightwing religious legal organization, but this kind of rule can run the other way as well. The school should either let students form groups based on ideological beliefs or not at all. A law school, a place that should understand the right and freedom to associate should understand not trying to force any group to accept whoever applies. This means homophobes can join GLBT groups and be hateful and disruptive and nothing can be done about it.


Groups have to abide by school policies if they want funding from the school. What's the big deal?
 
read the last sentence.... I think that is his main point...


Well, a GLBT group is free to discriminate against homophobes under the policy as "gay-hater" is not a race, color, religion, national origin, ancestry,disability, age, sex or sexual orientation
 
Well, a GLBT group is free to discriminate against homophobes under the policy as "gay-hater" is not a race, color, religion, national origin, ancestry,disability, age, sex or sexual orientation

The Supreme Court on Monday upheld a state law school's anti-discrimination policy that requires recognized student groups to admit "all comers" as members
 
The Supreme Court on Monday upheld a state law school's anti-discrimination policy that requires recognized student groups to admit "all comers" as members


I understand what the article says, but the opinion itself lays out the relevant language of the school policy.
 
Well, a GLBT group is free to discriminate against homophobes under the policy as "gay-hater" is not a race, color, religion, national origin, ancestry,disability, age, sex or sexual orientation

except many believe religious people are homophobes....thus it is discrimination against religious beliefs

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Well, a GLBT group is free to discriminate against homophobes under the policy as "gay-hater" is not a race, color, religion, national origin, ancestry,disability, age, sex or sexual orientation

This case had NONE of those qualities about it. This is about requiring a christian organization to admit non-believers and people unwilling to to not have sex outside of marriage, NOT just homosexual sex. You really can't be this dense. You ONLY applaud the case because it is against the christian legal society. This will require groups to admit people who do not follow their beliefs.
 
This case had NONE of those qualities about it. This is about requiring a christian organization to admit non-believers and people unwilling to to not have sex outside of marriage, NOT just homosexual sex. You really can't be this dense. You ONLY applaud the case because it is against the christian legal society. This will require groups to admit people who do not follow their beliefs.


The case is about an organization that refuses to accept non-Christians and those engaging in "unrepentant homosexual conduct" being denied official school recognition (and thereby funding) because the school requires all organizations to comply with its non-discrimination policy, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of religion and sexual orientation.

It will require religious-based groups to admit people who do not subscribe to their specific beliefs, but that's about it.
 
The case is about an organization that refuses to accept non-Christians and those engaging in "unrepentant homosexual conduct" being denied official school recognition (and thereby funding) because the school requires all organizations to comply with its non-discrimination policy, which prohibits discrimination on the basis of religion and sexual orientation.

It will require religious-based groups to admit people who do not subscribe to their specific beliefs, but that's about it.
It goes much further than that. BUt if that was it, the fact that you find that acceptable is antithetical to the founding principals of this country. It makes you as much of an authoritarian as SM.
 
Here's Nigel's philosophy. It is ok for Gay and lesbian groups to discriminate against homophobes, but not ok for Christians to keep non-believers out of their groups. You can force ideology on one group but not the other. Very democratic of you.
 
Here's Nigel's philosophy. It is ok for Gay and lesbian groups to discriminate against homophobes, but not ok for Christians to keep non-believers out of their groups. You can force ideology on one group but not the other. Very democratic of you.

well... in all fairness to Nigel... that IS the liberal way... and he really has no choice but to believe what his masters tell him to believe.
 
This will require groups to admit people who do not follow their beliefs.

....IF they want funding and an endorsement from the school. The school even agreed to allow them the use of facilities and access to bulletin boards. They were only denied funding and an endorsement as an RSO group.
 
....IF they want funding and an endorsement from the school. The school even agreed to allow them the use of facilities and access to bulletin boards. They were only denied funding and an endorsement as an RSO group.


Careful, String. You're libel to be labeled a liberal authoritarian.
 
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