If God were real, you wouldn’t need a book

[Diesel]

Oh, that's a nice attempt to minimize and downplay the fact you were willing to write me off just based on the word of a sock puppet who is festering with petty grievances about me -->

I'm not a closet anything. If it's important for you to know anything about me just ask.

I asked *you* if *you* are agnostic. I didn't write you off until you accused me of being anti-Christian simply because I said that a belief in god is irrational. You have some deep-rooted psychological issues revolving this topic that need to be addressed outside the board.

 

[gmark77]

You nailed it. That's exactly what happened. He's calling me anti-Christian even though all I said was that I don't know if a god or gods exist and any belief -- including the Christian belief -- that one or more of them do exist is irrational. That's a factual statement without hate or hostility as he attempted to accuse me of.

Yeah, Cy has "issues". Just wait until his only friend, Doc Douche, starts attacking you. That's the 9th circle of hell. He's an obsessive who is on JPP solely to troll and attack people.

The one thing Cy has going for him is his use of Google AI often leads to interesting topics. He can't discuss them without getting pissy but they are interesting topics. It's a testimony to the power of Google AI and Wikipedia.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I would dearly love to meet a person who, without ever hearing of the Bible or any details of Christianity, who could come up with the concepts behind Christianity without reliance on the Bible or Christian writings. Just from "first principles".

Any religion for that matter.

I would dearly love to meet a person who, without ever seeing a book, written page, computer screen or any other sort of medium, who could come up with the concepts behind writing, without anyone explaining it to them. Just from "first principles".


Or in simpler terms - stupid post is really fucking stupid.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Telling "christians" to RTFM makes sense since most of them have barely bothered to open it.

You've never actually been in a Christian Church, have you? You just let your Christophobic bigotry define reality for you.

 

[Cypress]

I asked *you* if *you* are agnostic. I didn't write you off until you accused me of being anti-Christian simply because I said that a belief in god is irrational.

You started calling me irrational before I even considered responding in kind.

I doubt your claim that I ever said anything genuinely derogatory to you, before you started gossiping to your little troll friend about writing me off.

You have some deep-rooted psychological issues revolving this topic that need to be addressed outside the board.

You think it's possible animals have religion.

Talk about irrational and delusional

 

[gmark77]

I would dearly love to meet a person who, without ever seeing a book, written page, computer screen or any other sort of medium, who could come up with the concepts behind writing, without anyone explaining it to them. Just from "first principles".

Ummmm, humans already did that. We saw it with our own eyes. Language is a human invention.

Or in simpler terms - stupid post is really fucking stupid.

Or in even simpler terms: you are the stupid one in the equation. But by all means, if you think language came from God or some such then you really are out there.

 

[gmark77]

You started calling me

^^^^The Grievance Machine fires up!

Get Doc to hound him too! That way he'll understand how things work here on JPP. You blather trying to convince people you are smarter than you are and Doc backs you up by calling people every name in the book or obsessively reacting to every.single.post.

 

[Cypress]

When's the last time you saw an art or an aardvark build a church or a synagogues or ritually paint ancient caves? Do you think before you post?

That's nice. I'm neither. And you aren't agnostic. You described your personal philosophy pretty thoroughly. You either don't know what the word means or are embarrassed to identify outwardly with your Christianity. That's a you problem.

You were willing to entertain the idea that animals have religion.

That's crazy.

You have made assertions that you never back up with a logical deduction.

I told you I am willing to hear your logical deductions for:

Animals having religion.

And how a mathematically organized and finely tuned universe sprang into existence.

 

[gmark77]

And how a mathematically organized and finely tuned universe sprang into existence.

Show us one that was undesigned then we'll have something to compare with.

That's the problem with you "Intelligent Design/Creationist" types. You hypothesize things you have no comparison for. You see something it confuses you so you assume it was created by God.

Talk about a weak thought process.

 

[Cypress]

No, you fucking idiot. I said Christian beliefs are irrational. That's an objective word. There was no hate, demeaning, or hostility involved in a single thing I said (until I called you a fucking idiot right here).

Here is the proof you were being derogatory to me. Early on. Yesterday morning. Before I ever said anything genuinely derogatory to you.

You are not a rational person.

.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Ummmm, humans already did that. We saw it with our own eyes. Language is a human invention.

The same is true with Judaism and Christianity.

But in all cases it was iterative over hundreds of generations. No person sat down and came up with these complex ideas en toto.

Or in even simpler terms: you are the stupid one in the equation. But by all means, if you think language came from God or some such then you really are out there.

God or gods are irrelevant. Your statement was abysmally stupid. A failure of logic. Complex ideas grow and develop. Religion is no different than language in that regard.

Your "gotcha" seemed clever to you, but fell flat.

 

[Cypress]

I read everything Cypress posts, think about him constantly, and lurk his threads!

ftfy

 

[gmark77]

I use Google AI to formulate my posts!

ftfy.

 

[gmark77]

The same is true with Judaism and Christianity.

Nope.

God or gods are irrelevant. Your statement was abysmally stupid.

LOL. Sorry but morons telling me my points are stupid makes me laugh.

Complex ideas grow and develop. Religion is no different than language in that regard.

ANd it's all made up. That's the point.

Your "gotcha" seemed clever to you, but fell flat.

Goddamn you are dim.

 

[Diesel]

Yeah, Cy has "issues". Just wait until his only friend, Doc Douche, starts attacking you. That's the 9th circle of hell. He's an obsessive who is on JPP solely to troll and attack people.

The one thing Cy has going for him is his use of Google AI often leads to interesting topics. He can't discuss them without getting pissy but they are interesting topics. It's a testimony to the power of Google AI and Wikipedia.

Dutch and I have our own interactions. I don't particularly care what he and Cypress think about each other.

 

[Cypress]

I don't believe what Cypress writes, and then I get fucking mad when he provides corroboration from independent sources!

ftfy

 

[gmark77]

ftfy

Wow, Cy you are getting really really mad.

Maybe you need to lay off the Google AI for a bit.

 

[Cypress]

Maybe you need to lay off the Google AI for a bit.

^^ Perry aka Gmark aka Khafka aka Obtenebrator is so impressed with the content and organization of my posts, he thinks it can only conceivably come from artificial intelligence.

 

[Cypress]

I would dearly love to meet a person who, without ever seeing a book, written page, computer screen or any other sort of medium, who could come up with the concepts behind writing, without anyone explaining it to them. Just from "first principles".


Or in simpler terms - stupid post is really fucking stupid.

Would Christianity exist without the written stories and accounts of Christ?

That is a really stupid question.

Of course if Christ hadn't existed and hadn't been documented, Christianity would not exist.

What kind of a stupid "gotcha" point is that?

 

[Dutch Uncle]

Does he identify as agnostic? I assume so considering your exchange here. If so, he is taking an unusually defensive approach (in favor of religion) in his responses to me. I don't understand the contradiction.

Now, if he's just embarrassed of being religious and calls himself agnostic for appearance purposes, then I don't have time or patience for people who are not honest with and about themselves. I say the same thing about bashful Republicans who call themselves libertarians for public relations.

Perry is a proven liar who claims to have a PhD in GeoChem and changes his socks as often as Asshat Zombie. I don't trust habitual liars, bullshitters and perverse stalkers.

You would be shocked at my age. I'm 12.

Well, you nailed it 100% 12 years old, homeschooled, what else ya got?