The next IPCC scandal. Judithgate

"Judith-gate!!!!!!"

Nice! :hand: HaHa, Now that "Clmate Gate" has blown up in the face of science deniers,why not invent another fabricated "scandal"(!)?? I'll just sit back patiently, like I did with "climate gate", and wait for this one to blow up in your face. Good times!

Latest news from CERN regarding the CLOUD experiment.

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1221088

I understand people that spent two decades emotionally investing themselves in climate denial have an understandable need to flail around for the last remaining little factoids that allegedly support their lifelong denial of climate change.

However, beyond the realm of message board theorizing, and unsubstantiated assertions, clinging to climate denial hope is highly problematic: The CLOUD experiment isn’t an alternative theory to anthropogenic climate change. It’s not out to debunk human-influenced climate change.

Indeed, if you read the actual scientific literature (and not press releases or media accounts) the lead scientist on the CLOUD project - Jasper Kirkby - himself doesn’t deny anthropogenic forcings on recent climate change

This is from a scientific paper Dr. Kirkby wrote in late 2007, early 2008. (note: The evidence for human influenced climate change has only become even stronger since he wrote this paper)

"Despite these uncertainties, the question of whether, and to what extent, the climate is influencedby solar and cosmic ray variability remains central to our understanding of the anthropogenic contribution to present climate change."

--JASPER KIRKBY, Lead CLOUD scientist, in

Published in Surveys in Geophysics 28, 333–375, March 2008*


The reader’s digest version of this scientific publication is this:

-The Lead CLOUD scientist himself in his own published literature doesn’t deny anthropogenic forcing of climate change.

-The author hypothesizes that cosmic radiation may influence cloud cover, and therefore provide an external forcing mechanism to explain part of the recent observed climate change.

-The problem with a hypothesis is that amounts to an educated guess. The author concludes that at present there is no known physical mechanism to link cosmic radiation to aerosol formation and cloud formation.

-The bottom line, is that this CLOUD research may be helpful in resolving some uncertainty about the fraction of climatic change that can be attributed solar external forcings on climate. Or, alternatively, it might demonstrate the cosmic radiation has negligible effect on recent climate change. That's what a hypothesis is: an educated guess that can be tested to see if it can be nullified. Either way, it’s premise is not to debunk, or turn on its head, the broader conclusions and observations of human-influence climatic forcings.




*http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0804/0804.1938v1.pdf
 
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cypress, you fuckhead, how many times do we have to say that we don't deny CO2 forcing? It doesn't drive the climate and it's not catastrophic
 
It's funny how cypress ignores the point of the story. The IPCC is a fraud. They aren't even clever about it.


Please link me up to one single, solitary statement from any National Academy of Science from any nation on the planet, or from any reputable and internationally recognized scientific organization whom have concluded IPCC was fraudulent, and the report has been debunked.

Amazingly, I'm not going to take the word of an Iraq War-supporting message board dupe, with no scientific education whatsoever.

I'm going to assume that if IPCC was a fraud, the brightest and most reputable scientific organizations on the planet would have been able to crack the case, and penetrate the scandal. You were duped by climate gate, and the iraq war, and I can't trust you to not be easily duped by rightwing blog propaganda.


So, link me up bro. Show me the reputable scientific organizations that have issued conclusions or statements debunking or denouncing IPCC.

I'll check back.
 
Please link me up to one single, solitary statement from any National Academy of Science from any nation on the planet, or from any reputable and internationally recognized scientific organization whom have concluded IPCC was fraudulent, and the report has been debunked.

Amazingly, I'm not going to take the word of an Iraq War-supporting message board dupe, with no scientific education whatsoever.

I'm going to assume that if IPCC was a fraud, the brightest and most reputable scientific organizations on the planet would have been able to crack the case, and penetrate the scandal. You were duped by climate gate, and the iraq war, and I can't trust you to not be easily duped by rightwing blog propaganda.


So, link me up bro. Show me the reputable scientific organizations that have issued conclusions or statements debunking or denouncing IPCC.

I'll check back.

You really don't know how to think for yourself, do you?
 
Cypress expects the fox to conclude its done wrong to the henhouse.

Seriously, what kind of idiot expects government funded scientists to out fraud by their source of income?

How can you call one scientist agreeing with her own work a consensus?


http://climatechange.thinkaboutit.e...e_ipcc_consensus_was_only_one_solar_physicist

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“climatechange.thinkaboutit.eu/blog/blah_blah_blah_blah_blah/wingnut/flatearther/DupedDenialist_blogspot.com”

:lolup::lolup::lolup:

Just as I thought.

No credible sources,
no links to reputable science organizations,
and pathetic attempts to pass of wierd, obscure blogs no one's ever heard of as a "reputable" source.

Try again, my easily duped Climate Gate Clown. I'm not accepting blog postings. Those partisans cherry pick, deceive, and dupe. Which is exactly how you were duped into supporting the Iraq War and Climate Gate. Because you rely on hilarious horseshit like this.
 
with respect to the science deniers, for the past three years all I've ever asked for is a link to a reputable and credible scientific body with expertise in climate science, to support your yelps, hollers, speculations, and conjectures that IPCC is a fraud, that climate science is some fantastical liberal conspiracy, and that natural sources account for the recent warming.

I don't think that's an unreasonable request on my part. But, all you can come up with is obscure blogs no one's heard of, and the odd news "account" in a british tabloid.

Can you explain why - for years on end - you haven't been able to come up with, or post one single, solitary, reputable scientific link? Not One.. I'd really like to know why that is.
 
You are hilarious. I've seen you make the argument that solar influence has been debunked as being a relevant factor in climate. Here's the proof that the there was no consensus and even worse, the data has been fudged to hide an increase. You clearly do not comprehend what you are reading. I doubt you read it. You probably just think since some denier said it, it has to be false. Like I said, you aren't worth the time it takes to glance at your posts.

I don't post this news for you so i don't care what lazy people like you choose to believe.

Those of us who like our science to be "science" will continue to expose the frauds at the IPCC.

How anyone can continue to trust this farce is amazing.

Dude, the scientist adjusted the temp sensitivity index data to weaken the solar correlation. What part of that don't you get? Oh yeah, I lost you at the TSI.
 
You are hilarious. I've seen you make the argument that solar influence has been debunked as being a relevant factor in climate. Here's the proof that the there was no consensus and even worse, the data has been fudged to hide an increase. You clearly do not comprehend what you are reading. I doubt you read it. You probably just think since some denier said it, it has to be false. Like I said, you aren't worth the time it takes to glance at your posts.

I don't post this news for you so i don't care what lazy people like you choose to believe.

Those of us who like our science to be "science" will continue to expose the frauds at the IPCC.

How anyone can continue to trust this farce is amazing.

Dude, the scientist adjusted the temp sensitivity index data to weaken the solar correlation. What part of that don't you get? Oh yeah, I lost you at the TSI.


This is why you should probably stick to dry wall installation, instead of arm chair science.

Nobody with a minimum requisite of knowledge about climate science is claiming anymore that solar radiation is causing the warming trend. That particular bit of crack pottery has been relegated to the denizens of rightwing blogs, and Iraq War-supporting hacks. It's almost on a level with medieval alchemy and creation science.

Calling out solar radiation as the culprit for recent climate change isn’t even discussed anymore in polite and intelligent company. It’s only discussed among Climate Gate Clowns and Science Deniers.

Your rightwing blogs obviously didn’t inform you of this, but solar irradiance has been at a recent minimum. In other words, over the last decade the loss of solar irradiance should have been having its maximum cooling effect. But, temperatures still keep going up.

In fact, on cursory review and as far as I can tell, solar irradiance is now at its lowest level in 15 years.

Oddly, the decade of the 2000’s has been the hottest on record. Care to explain, Dr. Science?


NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/paper/gistemp2010_draft0601.pdf



Solar Constant – data from Davos World Radiation Center

http://www.pmodwrc.ch/pmod.php?topic=tsi/composite/SolarConstant



Have fun with your rightwing blogs. They cherry picked and lied you into supporting George Bush, the Iraq Fiasco, and Climate Gate buffoonery. I'm actually not surpised you were duped again. How many times can a wingnut be wrong, before they lose all self esteem and credibility? Keep up the comedy, man!
 
This is why you should probably stick to dry wall installation, instead of arm chair science.

Nobody with a minimum requisite of knowledge about climate science is claiming anymore that solar radiation is causing the warming trend. That particular bit of crack pottery has been relegated to the denizens of rightwing blogs, and Iraq War-supporting hacks. It's almost on a level with medieval alchemy and creation science.

Calling out solar radiation as the culprit for recent climate change isn’t even discussed anymore in polite and intelligent company. It’s only discussed among Climate Gate Clowns and Science Deniers.

Your rightwing blogs obviously didn’t inform you of this, but solar irradiance has been at a recent minimum. In other words, over the last decade the loss of solar irradiance should have been having its maximum cooling effect. But, temperatures still keep going up.

In fact, on cursory review and as far as I can tell, solar irradiance is now at its lowest level in 15 years.

Oddly, the decade of the 2000’s has been the hottest on record. Care to explain, Dr. Science?






Have fun with your rightwing blogs. They cherry picked and lied you into supporting George Bush, the Iraq Fiasco, and Climate Gate buffoonery. I'm actually not surpised you were duped again. How many times can a wingnut be wrong, before they lose all self esteem and credibility? Keep up the comedy, man!

So you are calling Jasper Kirkby and CERN crackpots?
 
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