Social Security, Medicare are "going to be gone," Donald Trump warns

With respect, as I have always felt like you and I have had a good rapport, you are giving me the Democratic party line. If you are open to discussing what I wrote, then I am here.
I'm only telling you what I've seen from the perspective of one living on disability. You really have no idea how hard it is to keep your benefits. The Reds have been trying to make it more difficult. It also shouldn't be a shock to anyone that republicans try to give tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans every chance they get. They did it during Trump's first term and during his second. All this was done when we needed belt-tightening.
 
I'm only telling you what I've seen from the perspective of one living on disability. You really have no idea how hard it is to keep your benefits. The Reds have been trying to make it more difficult. It also shouldn't be a shock to anyone that republicans try to give tax breaks to the wealthiest Americans every chance they get. They did it during Trump's first term and during his second. All this was done when we needed belt-tightening.
We are almost having two different conversations.

I am not of retirement age, and I am not dealing with disability, so I cannot relate to your lived experience with the S.S. system. But I hear what you are saying about how difficult the system is.

My point was about long term solvency and how fear has been used for decades to avoid real reform.
 
We are almost having two different conversations.

I am not of retirement age, and I am not dealing with disability, so I cannot relate to your lived experience with the S.S. system. But I hear what you are saying about how difficult the system is.

My point was about long term solvency and how fear has been used for decades to avoid real reform.
If the Reds wanted real reform, we'd be all for it. Given their current track record of cutting things and figuring out how to salvage the pieces, I wouldn't trust them with the distribution of toiletries at Government facilities.
 
If the Reds wanted real reform, we'd be all for it. Given their current track record of cutting things and figuring out how to salvage the pieces, I wouldn't trust them with the distribution of toiletries at Government facilities.
We are on different tracks in this thread. No worries, I will leave it here.
 
We are on different tracks in this thread. No worries, I will leave it here.
I was trying to insinuate that I find what you call Democrat scare tactics to be more than just a boogieman. However, I get what you're saying and won't push it further. H.F. Autistic minds sometimes have so much jumbled up in mind that it's hard to put everything we think into words.
 
I was trying to insinuate that I find what you call Democrat scare tactics to be more than just a boogieman. However, I get what you're saying and won't push it further. H.F. Autistic minds sometimes have so much jumbled up in mind that it's hard to put everything we think into words.
All good and I appreciate you saying that. I always enjoy our exchanges, even when we see things differently.
 
LOL Yep burn it all down Donald. Good job!

President Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don't approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.

Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, "It means death."

"There's nothing about death," Trump said. "Theirs is death because they're going to lose Medicaid, they're going to lose Social Security, they're going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you're not going to have any kind of medical insurance."

Why It Matters​

A point of contention leading to the government shutdown is the Democrats' refusal to accept a funding bill that would cut health care provisions, which many Republicans argue fund medical care for illegal aliens.

Social Security and Medicare represent vital support for tens of millions of Americans, especially retirees, seniors, and individuals with disabilities. As of late 2024, Social Security provided monthly benefits to about 53 million Americans—nearly 16 percent of the U.S. population. Medicare and Medicaid similarly underpin health insurance availability for seniors, low-income people, and many vulnerable groups.

Any potential reduction or administrative change to these programs has far-reaching implications for millions who rely on them for basic income or health care needs.


Federal funding gaps have become more frequent in the last 30 years, according to the Congressional Research Service, which added that the issues are often triggered by fights over budget policy and partisan spending demands.

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President Donald Trump speaks at a lunch with Republican senators in the Rose Garden at the White House on October 21, 2025. (AP Photo/Manuel Balce Ce...Read More

Donald Trump Issues Warning on Social Security, Medicare: What We Know

Trump warned at the press conference that if an agreement is not reached with the Democrats, programs like Social Security, Medicaid, and Medicare will be in danger. There are currently no changes to Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid as the government shutdown, which just reached its third week, continues.

The president added of Democrats, "We will not be extorted on this crazy part of this. They've never done this before. Nobody has. You always vote for an extension."

White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson told Newsweek in a statement on Tuesday, “Democrats chose to shut down the government because they want to give free health care to illegal aliens. They can choose to reopen the government at any point by supporting the bipartisan CR they voted for just six months ago. The Trump Administration is working day and night to mitigate the pain Democrats are causing.”

Can You Work and Collect Social Security?​

Americans can work and collect Social Security retirement benefits at the same time.

However, if an individual has not reached their full retirement age, their benefits may be temporarily reduced if they earn more than the annual earnings limit established by the Social Security Administration.

In 2025, these limits and corresponding reductions will reflect cost-of-living adjustments, as set by the SSA.

Benefit reductions apply only before reaching full retirement age, after which there are no earnings limits.

Is There No Tax On Social Security?​

Social Security income may be subject to federal income tax depending on an individual’s total income and filing status.

If a beneficiary’s combined income, defined as adjusted gross income plus nontaxable interest and half of Social Security benefits, exceeds yearly set thresholds, up to 85 percent of benefits may be taxable.

The Internal Revenue Service issues updated tables annually.

What Is the Social Security Cap for 2025?​

The Social Security wage base cap determines the maximum amount of earnings subject to the Social Security payroll tax each year. For 2025, the wage base limit published by the Social Security Administration is $176,100.

Earnings above the established limit are not subject to Social Security tax, although all covered earnings remain subject to Medicare tax.

What People Are Saying​

Democratic strategist Doug Gordon told Newsweek: “No one ever ‘wins’ a shutdown. But it is certainly a bad look for Republicans that Speaker Johnson has the House of Representatives on a taxpayer-funded monthlong vacation while Americans are about to get hit with the largest health care cost increase in more than a decade.”

GOP strategist Matt Klink told Newsweek Tuesday regarding the government shutdown: "This is a fight the GOP is comfortable having. The Democrats overplayed their hand by trying to jam through a major policy change on the back of a funding deadline.”

What Happens Next​

It's unclear if and when Democrats and Republicans will reach a compromise and end the government shutdown.
Its imparitive that Democrats get on top this and stop stressing over fuckin illegals and ICE raids. But the day Trump goes after SS and Medicare, his days in office will in fact be numbered. I can see massive GOP recall measures on ballots all across the nation. With MAGA, the biggest reciepitents of socialized handouts than any demographics in the nation
 
I wish we could get past the scare tactics and actually talk about reforms that extend the life of these programs. But scare tactics win elections and real reform doesn’t, so it feels like a pipe dream.
I honestly don't see a problem with SS or Medicare. We pay into these programs based on wages earned. Black men who pay into this system are less likely ever to live long enough to receive its benefits as do most low income seniors. We get shitty healthcare, we're used as ginnie pigs for new medicines our doctor give to us and we're more likely to pay more in insurance costs.....Medicaid yes, food stamps, yes and definitely Section 8.
 
I honestly don't see a problem with SS or Medicare. We pay into these programs based on wages earned. Black men who pay into this system are less likely ever to live long enough to receive its benefits as do most low income seniors. We get shitty healthcare, we're used as ginnie pigs for new medicines our doctor give to us and we're more likely to pay more in insurance costs.....Medicaid yes, food stamps, yes and definitely Section 8.
Speaking of Guinea pigs reminds me of this Tony Rock bit on black people and getting the COVID shot. First minute and a half is hell of funny.

View: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4TV0rTr2i20&pp=0gcJCR4Bo7VqN5tD
 
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