The lesson they won't learn from the oil crisis...

tinfoil said:
Everyone knows that Bush didn't do enough. I suspect if we were to compare the efforts Bush took to the efforts Obama has taken, we'd no doubt see how much greater Obama and his crack team of problem solvers are at crisis management.

Do you have a quick list of the things Obama has done?
We could easily list the stuff Bush did.
Nothing, right? Well, I mean he did nothing right, right?

So far I haven't seen Obama making much difference in this mess. He's like a motivational speaker and that's about it. It's our fault for turning the job into that, BTW, but usually, the media lends us a hand at shaking our sticks at the president. This time around, they are noticably absent from their regular post.
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I think Bush could have made a difference in getting people out of the streets sooner. That was a bad situation, and the local authorities failed completely. One thing Bush & his supporters always trumpeted was the fact that he was a "leaderrr", and that was a time when leadership was sorely needed.

Again, that's pretty much what I have faulted Bush for; I don't get on him about the levies, or not getting people evacuated (not his job), or rebuilding the city, or any of that.

I don't see a comparable situation here to Katrina; to me, Obama's main job right now is getting relief to the workers & people who have been economically affected by this, and so far, he's done okay on that score. I hate reading about the red tape as far as getting some of the equipment down there, and there are things he should have done to expedite that, but I haven't seen yet where anything would have made too much of a difference, unlike the situation w/ Katrina, where people were actually waiting in the street, in need of rescue.
 
Onceler said:
I think Bush could have made a difference in getting people out of the streets sooner. That was a bad situation, and the local authorities failed completely. One thing Bush & his supporters always trumpeted was the fact that he was a "leaderrr", and that was a time when leadership was sorely needed.

Again, that's pretty much what I have faulted Bush for; I don't get on him about the levies, or not getting people evacuated (not his job), or rebuilding the city, or any of that.

I don't see a comparable situation here to Katrina; to me, Obama's main job right now is getting relief to the workers & people who have been economically affected by this, and so far, he's done okay on that score. I hate reading about the red tape as far as getting some of the equipment down there, and there are things he should have done to expedite that, but I haven't seen yet where anything would have made too much of a difference, unlike the situation w/ Katrina, where people were actually waiting in the street, in need of rescue.
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That's a cut and past from libtard.com
It's also a direct afront to the thousands of brave coast & National Guardsman who began resucing RIGHT AWAY. lol FUCKING LIBTARDS
 
Topspin said:
That's a cut and past from libtard.com
It's also a direct afront to the thousands of brave coast & National Guardsman who began resucing RIGHT AWAY. lol FUCKING LIBTARDS
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That's ridiculous false outrage.

Toppy - someone failed. People were stranded in the flooded streets for days, and there was a leadership vacuum both at the local & national level. The "brave coast & national guardsman" were probably doing all they could, but clearly, more was needed.

What a fool.
 
Onceler said:
That's ridiculous false outrage.

Toppy - someone failed. People were stranded in the flooded streets for days, and there was a leadership vacuum both at the local & national level. The "brave coast & national guardsman" were probably doing all they could, but clearly, more was needed.

What a fool.
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your the false outrage fucker, no one envisioned a million reTARDS staying behing the guards did a great job.
 
LOL

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Topspin said:
your the false outrage fucker, no one envisioned a million reTARDS staying behing the guards did a great job.
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I can't get over how braindead you are sometimes.

Yes, no one anticipated people not evacuating, but that doesn't mean they forfeit a need for basic assistance. The guards did fine, BUT THEY NEEDED HELP.

Do you disagree that more assistance was needed? Please say yes.
 
Onceler said:
I can't get over how braindead you are sometimes.

Yes, no one anticipated people not evacuating, but that doesn't mean they forfeit a need for basic assistance. The guards did fine, BUT THEY NEEDED HELP.

Do you disagree that more assistance was needed? Please say yes.
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Yes more was needed, that's like me saying Obama was totally unequipted to stop the oil from hitting the beach or capping the well.
 
Topspin said:
Yes more was needed, that's like me saying Obama was totally unequipted to stop the oil from hitting the beach or capping the well.
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You've basically said both of those things. And are you really saying that Bush couldn't have shown more leadership in marshalling the resources for a more comprehensive rescue effort?
 
Onceler said:
You've basically said both of those things. And are you really saying that Bush couldn't have shown more leadership in marshalling the resources for a more comprehensive rescue effort?
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I'm saying your a typical left hack. The resue went fine, in fact awesome. The rebuilding he fucked it up big time. But don't let facts get in the way of your libtard argument.
 
Why does onceler conflate the disaster response effort with capping the well?

We know it's BP's responsibilty to cap the well, but, I feel the president could have been consulting more experts in the oil drilling industry and taking their advice, hiring them to fix the leak, and sending BP all associated bills. I'm not sure why he's able to act like an insurance man and secure 20 billion, but he can't then follow through and do whatever it takes to try to stop that gusher. I just don't see what he's done. Can you show a comprehensive list of the efforts he's taken to find other experts to fix the well? A short list? Anything?
 
tinfoil said:
Why does onceler conflate the disaster response effort with capping the well?

We know it's BP's responsibilty to cap the well, but, I feel the president could have been consulting more experts in the oil drilling industry and taking their advice, hiring them to fix the leak, and sending BP all associated bills. I'm not sure why he's able to act like an insurance man and secure 20 billion, but he can't then follow through and do whatever it takes to try to stop that gusher. I just don't see what he's done. Can you show a comprehensive list of the efforts he's taken to find other experts to fix the well? A short list? Anything?
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Weird paragraph. "We know it's BP's responsibility to cap the well...but Obama should cap the well."

I don't have a list handy.
 
apple0154 said:
We all have to cut our carbon use, regardless.

Money won't go into research and development when the current situation is economical. Alternative energy is decades away from being viable at the rate R&D is presently going.
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Translation:

"Fuck the low level workers, I've got what I want, I make enough to afford more, and I know what's best for those working slobs anyway."
 
apple0154 said:
On the plus side the only way we're going to get alternative energy is when the price of oil goes through the roof.
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That's one sure-fire way to guarantee we won't get alternative energy. We need only look to your beloved Europe to illustrate this. Gas prices are "through the roof" in Europe, and they have not gotten alternative energy... why not?

You see, my empty headed friend, the more we do boneheaded things to drive up the cost of energy, the more we stick a knife in the back of our own economy, because everything in our economy is completely dependent on energy cost. Once the economy tanks completely, no one is going to be thinking about 'alternative energy' or spending precious resources to get it. Go back to the days of the Great Depression, do you honestly believe any of those families who were relegated to eating dirt, would have been the slightest bit interested in embarking on alternative energy? Would that have been a main priority, when they didn't know where their next meal would come from? Think about it for a moment.

Energy independence is a first priority, but we can only get there by using a three-pronged approach... 1) more drilling for domestic sources, 2) development of alternative energy sources, 3) conservation.
 
and we all know onceler believes the dem governor and mayor handled katrina perfectly!

better watch out....out comes the Yurtsie talk from onceler :)
 
Dixie said:
What did Bush fail to do, that Bush had exclusive authority to do? Name it!
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bush should have personally gone down there and removed the people....but obama....what do you expect, for him to personally plug the hole!!!!! bush could have done more, obama can do no more!!!!

yours truly,

dunceler
 
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Onceler said:
LOL

Yurtsie in panic mode....
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you're the one running away from holding obama responsible for anything....i guess it really bothers you to have your hypocrisy and double standards pointed out to you....yeah...in fact, you're the one in panic mode

typical onceler projector mode
 
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